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  • Chrisksaint
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    • Apr 2010
    • 19127

    #31
    Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

    I'm going with Posey for MVP, Braun may have the more Home Runs or whatever but with Posey stats combined with his catching ability it's hard me to look past at least.
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    • DrJones
      All Star
      • Mar 2003
      • 9109

      #32
      Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

      Originally posted by Chrisksaint
      I'm going with Posey for MVP, Braun may have the more Home Runs or whatever but with Posey stats combined with his catching ability it's hard me to look past at least.
      I'm curious indeed to see how Braun fares in the MVP vote. I'd be even more curious if he was batting .347 and the Brewers were in a playoff spot.
      Originally posted by Thrash13
      Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
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      DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
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      • Knight165
        *ll St*r
        • Feb 2003
        • 24964

        #33
        Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

        N.L. Cy Young= R.A. Dickey

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        • rdnk
          All Star
          • Feb 2009
          • 5730

          #34
          Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

          Originally posted by DrJones
          I'm curious indeed to see how Braun fares in the MVP vote. I'd be even more curious if he was batting .347 and the Brewers were in a playoff spot.
          Nah, he only needs to get to .334.
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          • goh
            Banned
            • Aug 2003
            • 20755

            #35
            Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

            MVP
            AL: Cabrera
            NL: Posey

            Cy
            AL: Price
            NL: Dickey

            ROY
            AL: Trout
            NL: Rosario

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            • jth1331
              MVP
              • Aug 2003
              • 1060

              #36
              Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

              I'm on the bandwagon that relievers, like Kimbrel, shouldn't win the CY award pitching a mere 60-70 innings all year.
              Just like how its tough for me to say a pitcher should win the MVP, pitching only in around 32-35 games a year over a guy who plays in most likely 140+ games.
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              • Sportsforever
                NL MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #37
                Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                I have no issues with Kimbrel or any reliever not winning the CY. I just don't see how anyone can say he hasn't been the best reliever in baseball this year.
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                • jth1331
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1060

                  #38
                  Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                  Originally posted by Sportsforever
                  I have no issues with Kimbrel or any reliever not winning the CY. I just don't see how anyone can say he hasn't been the best reliever in baseball this year.
                  Because people have different opinions and fans of other teams than the Braves.
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                  43 Conference Championships
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                  • Sportsforever
                    NL MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 20368

                    #39
                    Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                    Originally posted by jth1331
                    Because people have different opinions and fans of other teams than the Braves.
                    I have no problem with opinions if they are backed up with facts. I have yet to see any facts that say Kimbrel has been anything but the best and I would say the same thing regardless of which team I root for.
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                    • 55
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 20857

                      #40
                      Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                      Originally posted by Sportsforever
                      I have no problem with opinions if they are backed up with facts. I have yet to see any facts that say Kimbrel has been anything but the best and I would say the same thing regardless of which team I root for.
                      Chapman and Rodney both have a higher WAR than Kimbrel this year.

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                      • Sportsforever
                        NL MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 20368

                        #41
                        Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                        Originally posted by 55
                        Chapman and Rodney both have a higher WAR than Kimbrel this year.
                        Depends on who you look at. Fangraphs shows Kimbrel higher than both while BBRef shows them all as pretty close.

                        Regardless, do you believe that Rodney has been as good/better than Kimbrel?
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                        • Knight165
                          *ll St*r
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #42
                          Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                          There is rarely just one definitive "best" in sports.
                          Usually you can make the argument for a number of players...
                          There is no deviance from that in this situation.

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                          • Sportsforever
                            NL MVP
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 20368

                            #43
                            Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                            Originally posted by Knight165
                            There is rarely just one definitive "best" in sports.
                            Usually you can make the argument for a number of players...
                            There is no deviance from that in this situation.

                            M.K.
                            Knight165
                            Agreed. I should probably clarify what I mean. Has Rodney done a phenomenal job as a closer? Yes, he has. Great ERA, lots of saves, etc. When you look at his rate stats, however, he hasn't been as good as Kimbrel. He has had an incredibly low BABIP (.215), probably aided by the Ray's defense, that has helped him. Kimbrel has been flat out unhittable (3.9 H/9 and 16.5 K/9...insane!). When I say Kimbrel has been the best, I mean he's that as a pitcher he has done his job (not allow runners/strike people out) better than anyone measured quantitatively.
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                            • DrJones
                              All Star
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 9109

                              #44
                              Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                              As someone with no dog in this fight, I'd choose Kimbrel as the best reliever in baseball this year. Near as I can figure, Chapman's and Rodney's edge in WAR is completely derived from 10 extra IP. For me, that's too little a difference to ignore Kimbrel's superior rate stats. I wouldn't say Kimbrel is an overwhelming choice, but he'd still be my pick.
                              Originally posted by Thrash13
                              Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                              Originally posted by slickdtc
                              DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                              Originally posted by Kipnis22
                              yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                              • Baseballking888
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1113

                                #45
                                Re: MVP/CY/ROY Talk

                                I'll post my predictions.

                                AL MVP: Miguel Cabrera
                                NL MVP: Ryan Braun

                                AL Cy Young: David Price
                                NL Cy Young: R.A. Dickey

                                Al Rookie of the Year: Mike Trout
                                NL Rookie of the Year: Wade Miley

                                AL Manager of the Year: Buck Showalter
                                NL Manager of the Year: Davey Johnson

                                AL Comeback Player of the Year: Adam Dunn
                                NL Comeback Player of the Year: Adam Wainwright

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