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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #136
    Re: Trade Discussion Thread

    The Mets don't have nearly enough to get it done.
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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    • CameRoN0407
      It's a New England Thing
      • Oct 2012
      • 3328

      #137
      Re: Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ACMilan99
      The Mets don't have nearly enough to get it done.
      They could PROBABLY do it, if they don't want a farm anymore...

      EDIT: And I don't think the Marlins would want Giancarlo in there division, or even league...
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      • AC
        Win the East
        • Sep 2010
        • 14951

        #138
        Re: Trade Discussion Thread

        It all depends if they want to give up untouchables, because Nimmo + Flores + Wheeler + Syndergaard + Harvey should at least get things moving. Anything less and the Marlins won't (And shouldn't) pick up the phone.
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        • CameRoN0407
          It's a New England Thing
          • Oct 2012
          • 3328

          #139
          Re: Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ACMilan99
          It all depends if they want to give up untouchables, because Nimmo + Flores + Wheeler + Syndergaard + Harvey should at least get things moving. Anything less and the Marlins won't (And shouldn't) pick up the phone.
          That's what I was thinking. But knowing Loria he'll do something utterly Stupid...
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          • AC
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            • Sep 2010
            • 14951

            #140
            Re: Trade Discussion Thread

            I don't get that. Loria's a brilliant business man. It's just the way he does it in which he pisses everyone off so thoroughly. It's like the NHL lockout and Gary Bettman.
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            • CameRoN0407
              It's a New England Thing
              • Oct 2012
              • 3328

              #141
              Re: Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ACMilan99
              I don't get that. Loria's a brilliant business man. It's just the way he does it in which he pisses everyone off so thoroughly. It's like the NHL lockout and Gary Bettman.
              That's the problem. Buisness men are the owners/CEOs. He should leave the trades to Michael Hill and stay out of the player movement stuff. Maybe he should have a say, but not make. He needs to leave that to the specialists. I know I'm getting off-topic lol.
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              • RoyalBoyle78
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                • May 2003
                • 23918

                #142
                Originally posted by Readyornot0407
                They could PROBABLY do it, if they don't want a farm anymore...

                EDIT: And I don't think the Marlins would want Giancarlo in there division, or even league...
                You think so, lol they traded us Piazza didn't they, bottom line is the marlins don't care about there team at all
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                • Chrisksaint
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19127

                  #143
                  Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                  Are they a cheap team? Yeah that's just Loria however this recent purge was deserving as none of their contracts worked out for the production they were receiving.
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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #144
                    Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                    Are they a cheap team? Yeah that's just Loria however this recent purge was deserving as none of their contracts worked out for the production they were receiving.
                    You so sure about that? They were all pretty damn good last year lol
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                    • Chrisksaint
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                      • Apr 2010
                      • 19127

                      #145
                      Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                      Yeah only Jose Reyes maybe was doing anything good.

                      Anibal and Omar were as well but they were FAs, good trade overall there
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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #146
                        Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                        Yeah only Jose Reyes maybe was doing anything good.

                        Anibal and Omar were as well but they were FAs, good trade overall there
                        Really? Cause Mark Buehrle and Josh Johnson just both had decent/excellent years themselves, and I'm pretty sure that Infante isn't a free agent.

                        Heck, even Hanley had himself a decent season.
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                        • 55
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 20857

                          #147
                          Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                          Johnson just had a pretty mediocre year by HIS standards.

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                          • Chrisksaint
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19127

                            #148
                            Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                            Josh Johnson had a pretty down year with an ERA or 3.8 and a WHIP of 1.28, he never looked like his old self at all really.

                            Mark Buerhle, had just about the same season with a little bit less of an ERA/WHIP and if i'm not mistaken(don't have the contract in front of me) got paid more or around the same as JJ.

                            Hanley Ramirez, Was awful as a Marlin in that season hitting .246 with the team, went into several bad streaks and who knows how many DPs he hit into during that time.

                            I know it's a cool thing to rag on the Marlins in the baseball world, but all these trades made sense given how the team/player were performing and the contracts they had for their performance. And this comes from someone who hates Loria just as much as the next Marlins fan.
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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #149
                              Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by 55
                              Johnson just had a pretty mediocre year by HIS standards.
                              Solid choice of words. By his standards yes, but a good year all around.

                              Originally posted by Chrisksaint
                              Josh Johnson had a pretty down year with an ERA or 3.8 and a WHIP of 1.28, he never looked like his old self at all really.

                              Mark Buerhle, had just about the same season with a little bit less of an ERA/WHIP and if i'm not mistaken(don't have the contract in front of me) got paid more or around the same as JJ.

                              Hanley Ramirez, Was awful as a Marlin in that season hitting .246 with the team, went into several bad streaks and who knows how many DPs he hit into during that time.

                              I know it's a cool thing to rag on the Marlins in the baseball world, but all these trades made sense given how the team/player were performing and the contracts they had for their performance. And this comes from someone who hates Loria just as much as the next Marlins fan.
                              Johnson had a 3.40 FIP, which is excellent in general, a 3.73 xFIP, he pitched around 200 innings, most of his pitch values were positive, and he had an O-swing% of 30%, which is good. He had a 3.8 WAR season. And he got paid, what, $13.75 million? That's a great bargain.

                              Buerhle has had pretty much the exact same stats every year for the past 12 years. You know what you're getting with him, and that's a VERY valuable and underrated thing nowadays, with injuries picking up.

                              Hanley had a .326 wOBA, 103 wRC+, nothing amazing but not exactly salary dump worthy.
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                              • Chrisksaint
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                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19127

                                #150
                                Re: Trade Discussion Thread

                                I don't know what all those fancy stuff means, but with my eyes Hanley Ramirez was straight garbage with the Marlins this past season and not much better before
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