2013 Trade Deadline Thread

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that's like Rube Amaro-Cliff Lee territory, almost.

Amaro and Kenny must be hittin the same bong if they're being realistic with what they're seeking...there doesn't seem to be any give-and-take whatsoever with their demands

[TeixeiraFanatic]

Possibly, but why would they do that if everybody knows that they already didn't take the Cardinal's offer?

Most likely because that rumor was completely bogus. St. Louis reporters all deny Martinez being offered in any deal for Peavy.

If it even were true, there's no way in hell Chicago wouldn't take that. I think it was a rumor started by someone to drive the price up.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Why i only follow the credible ones, like Heyman and Rosenthal. Seems like they always get the good info going.

Don't forget Stark.

Thought you guys said credible?

All 3 of those guys just throw stuff at the wall and hope it sticks.

Reference to the Crain deal.

Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Jesse Crain has been dealt to Tampa Bay, according to a source.

LOL, so at 11:30 AM, according to Jeff Passan of Y! Sports (yuck), the deal was not close to done. And at 4:30 PM it was complete. ok....

Most likely because that rumor was completely bogus. St. Louis reporters all deny Martinez being offered in any deal for Peavy.

If it even were true, there's no way in hell Chicago wouldn't take that. I think it was a rumor started by someone to drive the price up.

I think people are overrating Carlos Martinez. Remember, in the end, this is a bullpen guy more than likely.

[philliesfan136]

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#Cardinals and #Phillies are in serious talks with Cliff Lee and Michael Young, according to multiple sources, deal likely before deadline.

More to come on this potential Michael Young and Cliff Lee deal to the #Cardinals.

#Phillies in talks with #Cardinals for top prospects as of Carlos Martinez, Kolten Wong, or Michael Wacha. Freese likely in deal w/Young.

Can this be true this time..?

some rumblings late on this Monday night that #Indians close to a big deal, saw something that #WhiteSox could be involved #staytuned

[BatsareBugs]

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I think people are overrating Carlos Martinez. Remember, in the end, this is a bullpen guy more than likely.

Who's overrating him? He's a top-30 prospect and has already reached the majors at 21. He not just "a bullpen guy".

[philliesfan136]

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http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/b...iff-lee-073013 Wow, I love that comparison.

also, lol --> http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/p...-deadline.html

[thefakeJTS]

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If the Cardinals acquire Lee and Young, they might as well be awarded the World Series already.

[Marino]

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If the Cardinals acquire Lee and Young, they might as well be awarded the World Series already.

Dodgers could still beat them.

[Mabster]

If the Cardinals acquire Lee and Young, they might as well be awarded the World Series already.

Didn't people say that about the Blue Jays at the beginning of the year?

Come on, this is baseball.

[philliesfan136]

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http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/cliff...ost-of-an-ace/

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heyman/22941318/red-sox-appear-to-be-one-big-player-in-the-lee-derby

In '09, #Phillies traded for Cliff Lee without giving up Domonic Brown. #RedSox likely drawing same line with Xander Bogaerts.

From every indication Phillies won't settle for anything less than Bogaerts at the head of any package for Lee

MLB - Phillies source - Cliff Lee has reportedly agreed to waive his no trade clause to go to Boston if a deal with Red Sox can be reached.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Who's overrating him? He's a top-30 prospect and has already reached the majors at 21. He not just "a bullpen guy".

You, I guess..among others.

I'm sure you know this, but when every scouting report refers to plus stuff, but with a smallish frame and a need to improve secondary pitches, that projects to be a high-leverage bullpen guy. This isn't news. Find me a reputable scouting report that doesn't mention him "needing to work on secondary stuff," having a "small frame," or the "bullpen seeming like a good fit" and you may have a point.

It's not a 100% certainty thing, but it's a projection-based argument. He could be a starter. In all likelihood though he's best suited as a closer down the road.

There's also the fact the Cardinals are actually using him in the pen now, although that means quite a bit less since a lot of starters begin that way.

If I've got a chance to deal a guy with maybe a 30% chance to start long term (with an effectiveness as of yet unknown) for an established vet like Peavy and make another run at the World Series, I do that deal every single time and twice on Sundays.

If it were Miller or Wacha, I'd be more hesitant.

[Travis40]

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@JeffPassan
Source: Phillies plan on calling up 3B Cody Asche. Points to Michael Young being traded today.

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Phillies’ Michael Young only approve trade to #Rangers. Has full no-trade clause.

Somebody kill me....

[philliesfan136]

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Thanks, MY. Also, screw you. -__________-

maybe..not?

There r execs I have contacted who believe if deal were made Michael Young also would waive no-trade for #Redsox #Phillies

[philliesfan136]

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Ruben Amaro is ****ing delusional. Wake the hell up, dude, we're not buyers.

[SPTO]

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Ruben Amaro is ****ing delusional. Wake the hell up, dude, we're not buyers.

I feel bad for Phillies fans because if they end up picking up big name players/contracts in the hopeless bid of making the playoffs than it's something that's going to cripple the team for at least a couple years.