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  • cub
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1126

    #106
    Re: Cubs vs Astros

    Who has a better pen top to bottom?

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    • ChiWhiteSoxFan
      Rookie
      • Mar 2003
      • 62

      #107
      Re: Cubs vs Astros

      Yankees bullpen. Rivera, Flash Gordon, Quantrill, Felix Heredia, Gabe White, and Steve Karsay. I can't believe you cub fans didn't mention Kent Mercker who the Cubs picked up this offseason. He was great last year.

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      • ChiWhiteSoxFan
        Rookie
        • Mar 2003
        • 62

        #108
        Re: Cubs vs Astros

        Yankees bullpen. Rivera, Flash Gordon, Quantrill, Felix Heredia, Gabe White, and Steve Karsay. I can't believe you cub fans didn't mention Kent Mercker who the Cubs picked up this offseason. He was great last year.

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        • ChiWhiteSoxFan
          Rookie
          • Mar 2003
          • 62

          #109
          Re: Cubs vs Astros

          Yankees bullpen. Rivera, Flash Gordon, Quantrill, Felix Heredia, Gabe White, and Steve Karsay. I can't believe you cub fans didn't mention Kent Mercker who the Cubs picked up this offseason. He was great last year.

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          • cub
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 1126

            #110
            Re: Cubs vs Astros

            I did mention Mercker.

            Everybody just dismissed him as not good as Veres or whatever.

            The Yanks bullpen does look strong (better than their rotation). I'll take the Cubs any day, though.

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            • cub
              MVP
              • Mar 2003
              • 1126

              #111
              Re: Cubs vs Astros

              I did mention Mercker.

              Everybody just dismissed him as not good as Veres or whatever.

              The Yanks bullpen does look strong (better than their rotation). I'll take the Cubs any day, though.

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              • cub
                MVP
                • Mar 2003
                • 1126

                #112
                Re: Cubs vs Astros

                I did mention Mercker.

                Everybody just dismissed him as not good as Veres or whatever.

                The Yanks bullpen does look strong (better than their rotation). I'll take the Cubs any day, though.

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                • cub
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1126

                  #113
                  Re: Cubs vs Astros

                  Here's the stats for the Cubs big 5 in the bullpen:

                  Mercker (L): 2003 Braves/Reds 55 IP / 46 H / 48 K / 32 BB / 1.90 ERA

                  Farnsworth (R): 2003 Cubs 76.1 IP / 52 H / 92 K / 36 BB / 3.30 ERA

                  Remlinger (L): 2003 Cubs 69 IP / 54 H / 83 K / 39 BB / 3.65 ERA

                  Hawkins (R): 2003 Twins 77.1 IP / 69 H / 75 K / 15 BB / 1.86 ERA (led AL in Holds)

                  Borowski (R): 2003 Cubs 68.1 IP / 53 H / 66 K / 19 BB / 2.63 ERA (33 saves)


                  I'd put that up against any five bullpen guys in the majors, and it's easily better than the Astros' best five. Especially considering Remlinger had kind of a down year last year.

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                  • cub
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1126

                    #114
                    Re: Cubs vs Astros

                    Here's the stats for the Cubs big 5 in the bullpen:

                    Mercker (L): 2003 Braves/Reds 55 IP / 46 H / 48 K / 32 BB / 1.90 ERA

                    Farnsworth (R): 2003 Cubs 76.1 IP / 52 H / 92 K / 36 BB / 3.30 ERA

                    Remlinger (L): 2003 Cubs 69 IP / 54 H / 83 K / 39 BB / 3.65 ERA

                    Hawkins (R): 2003 Twins 77.1 IP / 69 H / 75 K / 15 BB / 1.86 ERA (led AL in Holds)

                    Borowski (R): 2003 Cubs 68.1 IP / 53 H / 66 K / 19 BB / 2.63 ERA (33 saves)


                    I'd put that up against any five bullpen guys in the majors, and it's easily better than the Astros' best five. Especially considering Remlinger had kind of a down year last year.

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                    • cub
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1126

                      #115
                      Re: Cubs vs Astros

                      Here's the stats for the Cubs big 5 in the bullpen:

                      Mercker (L): 2003 Braves/Reds 55 IP / 46 H / 48 K / 32 BB / 1.90 ERA

                      Farnsworth (R): 2003 Cubs 76.1 IP / 52 H / 92 K / 36 BB / 3.30 ERA

                      Remlinger (L): 2003 Cubs 69 IP / 54 H / 83 K / 39 BB / 3.65 ERA

                      Hawkins (R): 2003 Twins 77.1 IP / 69 H / 75 K / 15 BB / 1.86 ERA (led AL in Holds)

                      Borowski (R): 2003 Cubs 68.1 IP / 53 H / 66 K / 19 BB / 2.63 ERA (33 saves)


                      I'd put that up against any five bullpen guys in the majors, and it's easily better than the Astros' best five. Especially considering Remlinger had kind of a down year last year.

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                      • Lex
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 560

                        #116
                        Re: Cubs vs Astros

                        I liked what Borowski did last year however, you have to wonder if he can do it again. I have a suspicion that he had one good year. Ive alwasy hoped that one day that Farnsworth might step into the closer role. I can see this being a problem for the Cubs and in situations where a closer isnt the same as the year before, the question becomes how loyal will Baker be to Borowski. Ask Grady Little how much it pays to be loyal in such a way.

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                        • Lex
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 560

                          #117
                          Re: Cubs vs Astros

                          I liked what Borowski did last year however, you have to wonder if he can do it again. I have a suspicion that he had one good year. Ive alwasy hoped that one day that Farnsworth might step into the closer role. I can see this being a problem for the Cubs and in situations where a closer isnt the same as the year before, the question becomes how loyal will Baker be to Borowski. Ask Grady Little how much it pays to be loyal in such a way.

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                          • Lex
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 560

                            #118
                            Re: Cubs vs Astros

                            I liked what Borowski did last year however, you have to wonder if he can do it again. I have a suspicion that he had one good year. Ive alwasy hoped that one day that Farnsworth might step into the closer role. I can see this being a problem for the Cubs and in situations where a closer isnt the same as the year before, the question becomes how loyal will Baker be to Borowski. Ask Grady Little how much it pays to be loyal in such a way.

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                            • cub
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1126

                              #119
                              Re: Cubs vs Astros

                              In 2002, Borowski's ERA was better than last year.

                              That said, I don't think Baker's just gonna blindly stick to Borowski if he's blowing saves left and right. But Joe has the right mental makeup for a closer. Farnsworth does not.

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                              • cub
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1126

                                #120
                                Re: Cubs vs Astros

                                In 2002, Borowski's ERA was better than last year.

                                That said, I don't think Baker's just gonna blindly stick to Borowski if he's blowing saves left and right. But Joe has the right mental makeup for a closer. Farnsworth does not.

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