Re: Cubs vs Astros
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SychoBubbaCrusty said:
He's never been any good, he's the worst fielder in the game.
Also Veres was injured all last year, his career era is somewhere under 3.5. FAR BETTER than Hawkins career ERA. Not too mention that if Veres stinks it up, he's signed to a minor league deal, so he's not guaranteed to make the club.
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I can't believe I'm engaged in a debate with someone who mentions Veres and Hawkins in the same sentence at this stage of their careers. The last two seasons as a setup man, Hawkins has posted ERAs of 2.13 and 1.86. Veres hasn't even come close to touching that. Plus, you mention that it is possible that Veres might not make the team. Hawkins is definitely going to setup for Borowski. What is your point??
As for Ramirez, I cannot deny that his defense is suspect. But if you read carefully, my point was that he can improve. He's still very young at 25 years of age. Defensive mistakes can be addressed. Whether or not they are remains to be seen.
And finally, I've been willing to give you the benefit of the doubt up till now. But I'd like to point out the following quote ...
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This post is the most ridiculous post I've ever read, for starters you give no reasons why you picked who you do and your a Cubs fan, a bias maybe?
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Seems somebody else has an issue with objectivity ...
I have not seen one point you've made where you give the Cubs any sort of credit whatsoever. At least the original poster gave the Astros some props, even if the Cub fan shined through a bit.
Bottom line ... this will be a tight and fun race to watch. IMO, the Cubs have better pitching, while the Astros have better hitting. In the end, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if both teams made it to the playoffs. And, we cannot rule out the Cards ... that offense is explosive ... though it's a bit off topic, since the title is Cubs vs. Astros.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents ...
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SychoBubbaCrusty said:
He's never been any good, he's the worst fielder in the game.
Also Veres was injured all last year, his career era is somewhere under 3.5. FAR BETTER than Hawkins career ERA. Not too mention that if Veres stinks it up, he's signed to a minor league deal, so he's not guaranteed to make the club.
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I can't believe I'm engaged in a debate with someone who mentions Veres and Hawkins in the same sentence at this stage of their careers. The last two seasons as a setup man, Hawkins has posted ERAs of 2.13 and 1.86. Veres hasn't even come close to touching that. Plus, you mention that it is possible that Veres might not make the team. Hawkins is definitely going to setup for Borowski. What is your point??As for Ramirez, I cannot deny that his defense is suspect. But if you read carefully, my point was that he can improve. He's still very young at 25 years of age. Defensive mistakes can be addressed. Whether or not they are remains to be seen.
And finally, I've been willing to give you the benefit of the doubt up till now. But I'd like to point out the following quote ...
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This post is the most ridiculous post I've ever read, for starters you give no reasons why you picked who you do and your a Cubs fan, a bias maybe?
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Seems somebody else has an issue with objectivity ...
I have not seen one point you've made where you give the Cubs any sort of credit whatsoever. At least the original poster gave the Astros some props, even if the Cub fan shined through a bit. Bottom line ... this will be a tight and fun race to watch. IMO, the Cubs have better pitching, while the Astros have better hitting. In the end, it wouldn't surprise me one bit if both teams made it to the playoffs. And, we cannot rule out the Cards ... that offense is explosive ... though it's a bit off topic, since the title is Cubs vs. Astros.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents ...
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