MLB Off-Topic

[DrJones]

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I think MLB should avoid anything related to Vegas (or Atlantic City for that matter) just to stay away from slippery slopes. I hate that even MLB Network has started the path down gambling road. I actually dont have a problem with gambling, phone or otherwise. Its just a bad look for MLB to decide on Vegas when there are 20 better choices to move the A's. I know its not a popular opinion about MLB staying away from Vegas, but it is still mine.

They should, sure, but MLB really, really don't care about anything but chasing profits. As in any behemoth corporation, there are individuals who care about the product, about ethics, etc. but everything ultimately flows in one direction, and that's $$$. Occasionally, that's good for the fan/consumer/employee, but usually not.

I'm speaking here as someone who has worked for EA and 2K, on both console and "free-to-play" (ugh) mobile titles, and who has had dealings with MLB/MLBPA, the NHL/NHLPA, and FIFA. They won't stop until it becomes unprofitable (or illegal) to continue on the current path.

[p_rushing]

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Dodgers announced he is speaking tomorrow at a press conference. Sounds like the stupidest thing he could do, but he apparently requested it. He'll probably read a statement and say he didn't know he was being stolen from. Then answer no questions.

This whole thing screams cover-up. Once the lawyers got involved, the whole story changed. Hopefully the FBI has some proof on who made the transfers.

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[zello144]

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I think MLB should avoid anything related to Vegas (or Atlantic City for that matter) just to stay away from slippery slopes. I hate that even MLB Network has started the path down gambling road. I actually dont have a problem with gambling, phone or otherwise. Its just a bad look for MLB to decide on Vegas when there are 20 better choices to move the A's. I know its not a popular opinion about MLB staying away from Vegas, but it is still mine.

They already have sportsbooks at the stadiums. Bit too late for that.

[Master Live 013]

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Maybe MLB encourage him behind the scenes to do this? This situation came out of nowhere and has been a cloud over Opening Week.

"I did nothing wrong. I was taken advantage by someone I trusted and thought of as a friend. I will fully cooperate with any investigation, be that MLB, local, state or federal. Thank you".

Then reporters shouting questions as he stands and leave


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[Master Live 013]

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*camera clicks camera clicks*


Can't remember recent instances of something like this going well, at best neutral. Acknowledging that they are obviously different situations, it reminds me of Kobe's press conference and Tiger's.

[DrJones]

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Who's doing the translation for Ohtani's press conference, I wonder?

[Ghost Of The Year]

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They already have sportsbooks at the stadiums. Bit too late for that.

Oh, no doubt. You can't get the genie back in the bottle. If Rose and Shoeless Joe were ethically bankrupt and needed a lifetime ban, so to are the people in MLB that decided its okay for them to now get in bed with gambling. Again, I have no problem with gambling. But MLB should have never went the ''Do as I say, not as I do'' route. And again, its too late now tho, genie out of the bottle.

[Speedy]

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Dodgers announced he is speaking tomorrow at a press conference. Sounds like the stupidest thing he could do, but he apparently requested it. He'll probably read a statement and say he didn't know he was being stolen from. Then answer no questions.

This whole thing screams cover-up. Once the lawyers got involved, the whole story changed. Hopefully the FBI has some proof on who made the transfers.

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Horrendous decision to have a press conference.

Zero benefit.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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I think MLB should avoid anything related to Vegas (or Atlantic City for that matter) just to stay away from slippery slopes. I hate that even MLB Network has started the path down gambling road. I actually dont have a problem with gambling, phone or otherwise. Its just a bad look for MLB to decide on Vegas when there are 20 better choices to move the A's. I know its not a popular opinion about MLB staying away from Vegas, but it is still mine.

20?

Not sure we could name 5 legitimate options in this economy.

Vegas isn't even clamouring for them, from the sounds of it.

[Majingir]

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No presser after all. Ohtani will just release a statement in about 3 hours.

20?



Not sure we could name 5 legitimate options in this economy.



Vegas isn't even clamouring for them, from the sounds of it.

Baseball is one of the harder ones to get a team for. Hockey and basketball you just need an arena build that can hold 15,000+ , and some cities are ok doing that without even getting a team because you can still use it for concerts and other events.

Baseball, it's more complex. Manfred has said before the league would consider a place like Montreal if they have a full plan in place for a new stadium, but also seems like Montreal or any possible ownership group doesn't want to spend time getting a plan in place without knowing if they're getting a team for sure.

Same would be true all over I'd imagine. "Build it and they will come" vs "Come and they will build it".

[dubcity]

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Horrendous decision to have a press conference.

Zero benefit.

Yeah, his camp need to do and say as little as possible. They've already trapped themselves multiple times. I want to hear how they explain away not going after his interpreter for the supposed theft of the $1M, because they definitely don't want that investigation happening. That would involve evidence collection and testimony.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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20?

Not sure we could name 5 legitimate options in this economy.

Vegas isn't even clamouring for them, from the sounds of it.

Yeah, I stand by 20. The real problem is none of those 20 are as sexy hip and flashy as Vegas. That's what's driving John Fisher to picking Vegas. If they move to Vegas, they will find it appealing for ten years, then see what a fickle town it really is. The Braves played 13 years in Milwaukee. The A's played 13 years in KC. I give the A's 13 years in Vegas before moving on to greener pastures.

[DrJones]

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Yeah, I stand by 20. The real problem is none of those 20 are as sexy hip and flashy as Vegas. That's what's driving John Fisher to picking Vegas. If they move to Vegas, they will find it appealing for ten years, then see what a fickle town it really is. The Braves played 13 years in Milwaukee. The A's played 13 years in KC. I give the A's 13 years in Vegas before moving on to greener pastures.

There's a much, much greater chance of the A's to Vegas completely falling through than them moving on after a decade. If indeed a billion+ dollar, team-owned, baseball-only stadium is built on the site of the Tropicana, it's gonna be there for the long haul.

And as others have said, the number of realistic expansion/relocation spots is small. Probably a 3rd team in Texas (Austin or San Antonio) and either Nashville or Charlotte (maybe both if the Rays need to be moved). I don't think Portland will work, Vancouver definitely wouldn't work; maybe Salt Lake City? But they're probably getting an NHL team soonish, and supporting 3 major franchises in a metro area that small is probably asking a lot.

[Madden08PCgmr]

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Living in the NW, I've heard the argument for Portland many times. Makes alot of sense logistically, but I don't think its a strong enough market in relation to other options.

Its comical the A's can't make Oakland work for them. Its the 5th largest market in the country, and arguably the richest. Lots of money in Vegas, but 20, 30 years from now, hard to argue they'd be better off. Say what you will about the stadium situation.

I definitely don't see 20 viable US cities for expansion or relocation. MLB might be able to make the NBA model work for them, trying to strangle small markets (Salt Lake, Sac'to, OKC..) but with no revenue sharing, market size is king.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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Living in the NW, I've heard the argument for Portland many times. Makes alot of sense logistically, but I don't think its a strong enough market in relation to other options.

Its comical the A's can't make Oakland work for them. Its the 5th largest market in the country, and arguably the richest. Lots of money in Vegas, but 20, 30 years from now, hard to argue they'd be better off. Say what you will about the stadium situation.

I definitely don't see 20 viable US cities for expansion or relocation. MLB might be able to make the NBA model work for them, trying to strangle small markets (Salt Lake, Sac'to, OKC..) but with no revenue sharing, market size is king.

Tho it will never happen, NYC could easily support a third team. But it's an ugly choice. The Yankees and Mets won't approve. Oakland's problem is the same as the A's;
the A's need a new owner, and Oakland needs better elected officials. The combination of Fisher and Oakland leaders is proving lethal to the A's.