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  • redsox4evur
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2013
    • 18169

    #2206
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Happy Bobby Bonilla day! In related new he is do $1.2MM. Harvey and DeGrom are owed $1,171,000 combined. Mets fans how do you feel?
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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42509

      #2207
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      I'm probably late on this, but watching the Giants-Marlins game yesterday, there was a reliever on Miami (named Carter Capps I believe) whose delivery appeared illegal. He was leaping from the mound about 18 inches before replanting and pitching.

      That can't possibly be legal. Isn't your release supposed to be with your plant/pivot foot on the pitcher's plate itself? And let me clarify, I know that everyone brings their foot off the plate when pitching. He seems to almost replant it, though.
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      • redsox4evur
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2013
        • 18169

        #2208
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Blzer
        I'm probably late on this, but watching the Giants-Marlins game yesterday, there was a reliever on Miami (named Carter Capps I believe) whose delivery appeared illegal. He was leaping from the mound about 18 inches before replanting and pitching.

        That can't possibly be legal. Isn't your release supposed to be with your plant/pivot foot on the pitcher's plate itself? And let me clarify, I know that everyone brings their foot off the plate when pitching. He seems to almost replant it, though.
        I don't think there is a rule against. But the more surprising thing is that he isn't the only pitcher in the league to have that type of delivery. Jordan Walden of the Braves does the same thing.
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        • jmillhimes
          MVP
          • Dec 2007
          • 2365

          #2209
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Jerry Dipoto story is not over as it seems like several Angel personel and Owner are trying to get him to reconsider his decision
          atleast..Its not Delaware

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #2210
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            If they're trying to get him to reconsider than let the man make an executive decision. If he can't get along with Sciossa than let him fire him.

            Personally, I think that team is due for a culture change in the dugout.
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            • Mabster
              Crunchy
              • Mar 2009
              • 7659

              #2211
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Blzer
              I'm probably late on this, but watching the Giants-Marlins game yesterday, there was a reliever on Miami (named Carter Capps I believe) whose delivery appeared illegal. He was leaping from the mound about 18 inches before replanting and pitching.

              That can't possibly be legal. Isn't your release supposed to be with your plant/pivot foot on the pitcher's plate itself? And let me clarify, I know that everyone brings their foot off the plate when pitching. He seems to almost replant it, though.
              In the rule book disengaging the rubber is only specifically addressed when discussing pick offs. There's nothing in there about this kind of pitching motion.
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              • Speedy
                #Ace
                • Apr 2008
                • 16143

                #2212
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by SPTO
                If they're trying to get him to reconsider than let the man make an executive decision. If he can't get along with Sciossa than let him fire him.

                Personally, I think that team is due for a culture change in the dugout.
                There's blame to go on both sides...Scioscia needs to pick better coaches to help him or if they can't win with the HR, start playing the NL style he's supposed to be known for. The guy won 96 games last year with virtually the same roster so he should be able to pick it up. DiPoto needs better roster moves than signing huge contracts to aging players.

                Pujols nor Josh would never have lived up to the money given them; maybe it was the owner's fault but the GM certainly made it happen. Regardless, letting guys like Kendrick, Trumbo and even Morales go without a decent replacement/return will inevitably set the team back.

                It's almost like LAA is turning into the Cavs with it being centered around a MLB-best star (Trout), really good player (Pujols) and everybody else.
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                Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #2213
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  I'm probably late on this, but watching the Giants-Marlins game yesterday, there was a reliever on Miami (named Carter Capps I believe) whose delivery appeared illegal. He was leaping from the mound about 18 inches before replanting and pitching.

                  That can't possibly be legal. Isn't your release supposed to be with your plant/pivot foot on the pitcher's plate itself? And let me clarify, I know that everyone brings their foot off the plate when pitching. He seems to almost replant it, though.
                  As long as his foot doesn't leave the ground then touch back down before he released the ball, it's not illegal. Like you said, nearly every pitcher's foot drags off the rubber before release.

                  Jordan Walden does this too, though not as dramatically.
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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #2214
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Mabster
                    In the rule book disengaging the rubber is only specifically addressed when discussing pick offs. There's nothing in there about this kind of pitching motion.
                    This seems to meet the definition of "illegal pitch" in the MLB rulebook, which reads, "An ILLEGAL PITCH is (1) a pitch delivered to the batter when the pitcher does not have his pivot foot in contact with the pitcher’s plate; (2) a quick return pitch. An illegal pitch when runners are on base is a balk."

                    The problem is that everyone violates the first part of this rule. Every pitcher's foot comes off the rubber before actually releasing the ball, so it's a rule that is pretty much just ignored.

                    Originally posted by Blzer
                    I'm probably late on this, but watching the Giants-Marlins game yesterday, there was a reliever on Miami (named Carter Capps I believe) whose delivery appeared illegal. He was leaping from the mound about 18 inches before replanting and pitching.

                    That can't possibly be legal. Isn't your release supposed to be with your plant/pivot foot on the pitcher's plate itself? And let me clarify, I know that everyone brings their foot off the plate when pitching. He seems to almost replant it, though.
                    Basically it's technically illegal but every pitcher violates it.

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                    • fatleg3
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3602

                      #2215
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Rays were one strike away from being no-hit again. Joey Butler hit a line drive to right on a 0-2 count with 2 outs

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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #2216
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        that killed me
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                        • Majingir
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 47444

                          #2217
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Jays signed Vladimir Guerrero...JR.

                          Was basically expected,since a number of months ago I think they had a deal reached,but couldn't be official until today.

                          He's only 16, so if he does make MLB,won't be for at least 5 or so years I'd say,but he's ranked as top international free agent, so a great signing to have for Jays.

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                          • Picci
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4517

                            #2218
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            <b><big>International Free Agency</b></big>

                            The Mets have come to terms with international free agent shortstop Gregory Guerrero, who is ranked sixth on Baseball America's international prospects list.

                            Guerrero, 16, is the nephew of Vladamir Guerrero, the cousin of top international prospect Vladamir Guerrero Jr., and the younger brother of Jose Guerrero, who was signed by the Mets last season.

                            Gregory has a smooth swing from the right side that generates above-average raw power. The ball jumps off his bat, but because of his fluid, loose swing, he profiles more as a player who will hit for average rather than hitting for power right now, though he should tap into more power as he matures.

                            Defensively, Gregory has a strong arm and quick feet. He is a fluid defender at short and makes plays look easy. At 5'11", 175 lbs, there is some concern that he may fill in and grow off of shortstop, moving to third base instead.

                            Groegory is a graduate of the Guerrero Academy in the Dominican Republic, where he was trained by his uncle, Wilton Guerrero.



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                            Venezuelan shortstop Andres Gimenez, the No. 2 international prospect for July 2, has agreed to sign with the Mets.

                            Gimenez, 16, earned high praise from scouts both for his lefthanded bat and ability to stick at shortstop. He’s 5-foot-11, 165 pounds with a sweet swing that works in games, above-average speed and the potential for average to above-average defense at shortstop. Gimenez trains with Eduardo Navarro.
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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42509

                              #2219
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by kehlis
                              Basically it's technically illegal but every pitcher violates it.

                              http://www.businessinsider.com/carpe...-motion-2015-4
                              Only difference I mentioned was not that the back foot leaves the mound, but that the planting foot leaves the mound. In other words, the guy replants after he leaves the mound. I see that as illegal.

                              Take an extreme example... stand up right now, lift your left leg up (if you're a righty) and see if you can keep dragging your foot across the ground without ever leaving the ground. What if you did that for ten feet? Is that legal?

                              It just doesn't make sense, the guy replants. Slow motion will show people also leaving the mound, but they don't push off that back foot again.







                              I'm not saying Capps is fully doing it, but even slightly means it plants again. Back knee bends more again, allowing more energy to be used off of it. That has to be illegal.

                              Walden is a much, much lesser case. He doesn't seem to replant, but rather extend from the spot where he "lands" (though it does look like his foot completely leaves the ground, which is possibly more illegal?).

                              Last edited by Blzer; 07-02-2015, 12:44 PM.
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                              • PhilliesFan13
                                Banned
                                • May 2009
                                • 15651

                                #2220
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Capps better hope he doesn't snap his ankle on a pitch one day. Really looks like that could happen.

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