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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #2551
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Majingir
    The thing about those 11 wins,he's actually earned it too. He's never won a game where he allowed 4+ ER. And those high scoring games, the bullpen let up the losing run,so he's off the hook for those games in terms of W-L record.

    Just a weird season overall for him on the statsheet. If only Jays could find way to get consistent Hutchison. He's been great at home and horrible on the road, I really think there's just something mental that needs to be worked on.
    So what you're saying is, if not for the bullpen, he would be something like 11-8 which means he would be pitching pretty much to his ERA.

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    • AC
      Win the East
      • Sep 2010
      • 14951

      #2552
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Blzer
      Speaking of weird stats, the top five lefty pitchers with the highest K/BB ratios since 1900 are all active pitchers (Bumgarner, Lee, Hamels, Price, and Kershaw).
      Pitchers are getting much better nowadays.

      Unfortunately I dunno if Cliff Lee is really active at this point
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      • dickey1331
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        • Sep 2009
        • 14285

        #2553
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        I'm not sure if this correlates or not but I would also assume there are more lefty pitchers since kids aren't forced to write right handed anymore but I'm not sure if that would change anything.
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        • Jr.
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          • Feb 2003
          • 19171

          #2554
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by dickey1331
          I'm not sure if this correlates or not but I would also assume there are more lefty pitchers since kids aren't forced to write right handed anymore but I'm not sure if that would change anything.
          I don't think it would. My dad does everything but write, left handed.
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          • Speedy
            #Ace
            • Apr 2008
            • 16143

            #2555
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Majingir
            What do people think? Could this realistically be something we see happen somewhere down the road in MLB?

            <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bT8gCVaXC4Q" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

            I saw Eric Byrnes interview on MLB Network before he went to this, and he suggested that MLB should try out stuff like this,and pitch clocks, during the ASG. Of course the ASG would have to give up "winner gets home advantage in WS" stuff, but would be interesting to see ASG become almost like a trial game. Pro players getting to be guinea pigs for future rule changes,and get to see how they like it,while playing a meaningless game.
            Honestly...I wouldn't mind an automated strike zone; it'd certainly remove any bias which is always better for the game. Not to mention, there wouldn't be much of an argument to be had because "it is what it is".
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            • kmoser
              MVP
              • Jul 2012
              • 1398

              #2556
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Gilley
              Cespedes has been saying he would like to stay with the Mets long term, but with that weird contract clause, I don't know if it's going to happen.

              That is a really weird clause, I've never heard of something like that. I read an article that says the team has a 5 day window after the World Series that allows them to negotiate an extension, which I'm sure if they really wanted him long term they could get it done in that time. I wish I could have a clause like that for my RTTS player lol

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              • BleacherBum2310
                All Star
                • Aug 2010
                • 7107

                #2557
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by Majingir
                What do people think? Could this realistically be something we see happen somewhere down the road in MLB?

                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bT8gCVaXC4Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                I saw Eric Byrnes interview on MLB Network before he went to this, and he suggested that MLB should try out stuff like this,and pitch clocks, during the ASG. Of course the ASG would have to give up "winner gets home advantage in WS" stuff, but would be interesting to see ASG become almost like a trial game. Pro players getting to be guinea pigs for future rule changes,and get to see how they like it,while playing a meaningless game.
                Yes Please. I still believe the strike zone is a big part of why offense is down. #TeamRobotUmps
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                • Blzer
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 42509

                  #2558
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  I'm confused how these automated strike zones adjust for the player's height of their stance while in the box, and when they "lock in."
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                  • Money99
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12694

                    #2559
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Speedy
                    Honestly...I wouldn't mind an automated strike zone; it'd certainly remove any bias which is always better for the game. Not to mention, there wouldn't be much of an argument to be had because "it is what it is".
                    Agreed.
                    I'm sure the umpires union will hate this, but I really like the idea of a computer dictating balls and strikes.
                    The league wants more offense and a lot of the current scoring woes have to do with how good today's pitchers are and the strategy's revolving around strong bullpens.
                    Not to mention a very lax strike zone at times. Pitchers are way too good to give them that much leeway.

                    Without doing anything fancy, they could simply use a computer to shrink the K-zone.
                    And it would be uniform across the league.

                    But like Blzer said, I wonder how the computer would adjust to players heights?
                    I suppose every player could be measured and then this info would be fed to a computer.
                    That would prevent players from crouching real low to fool the machine?
                    Last edited by Money99; 08-12-2015, 01:26 PM.

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                    • Mabster
                      Crunchy
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 7659

                      #2560
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by dickey1331
                      I'm not sure if this correlates or not but I would also assume there are more lefty pitchers since kids aren't forced to write right handed anymore but I'm not sure if that would change anything.
                      When/where were kids forced to write righty? I've never heard of that before.
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                      • Mabster
                        Crunchy
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 7659

                        #2561
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Gilley
                        Cespedes has been saying he would like to stay with the Mets long term, but with that weird contract clause, I don't know if it's going to happen.
                        Not sure the contract clause but I think he's said that everywhere he's been.
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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #2562
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by Mabster
                          When/where were kids forced to write righty? I've never heard of that before.
                          Back in the 1950s to about hrm, the early '80s maybe kids were forced to write right handed because it was thought to be an abnormality to be a lefty. There's also the crazy notion that lefties don't live as long as righties etc etc.



                          Regarding automated strike zone, while I don't think the strike zone is the reason why offense is down because as it's written in the book you'd probably get about the same kind of numbers though offense would be up maybe a tick or two. The problem is that umpires STILL have their own subjective K-zones despite questec being a thing. I've seen situations where balls completely out of the zone were called strikes! At least with something automated that goes by the letter of the law you'll have more consistency and less argument about the veracity of the call. Though I do wonder how a robo ump would handle the knuckle ball which just floats all over the damn place.
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                          • redsox4evur
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                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #2563
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by SPTO
                            Back in the 1950s to about hrm, the early '80s maybe kids were forced to write right handed because it was thought to be an abnormality to be a lefty. There's also the crazy notion that lefties don't live as long as righties etc etc.



                            Regarding automated strike zone, while I don't think the strike zone is the reason why offense is down because as it's written in the book you'd probably get about the same kind of numbers though offense would be up maybe a tick or two. The problem is that umpires STILL have their own subjective K-zones despite questec being a thing. I've seen situations where balls completely out of the zone were called strikes! At least with something automated that goes by the letter of the law you'll have more consistency and less argument about the veracity of the call. Though I do wonder how a robo ump would handle the knuckle ball which just floats all over the damn place.
                            First off, I always heard that left handed people were the devil's spawn or something crazy like that.

                            Also on RoboUmp, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I like seeing a little bit of human influence on the game. Umpires are already getting screwed by the MLB. They don't make a lot of money. I think the number is around 80K year minus ALL of their travel expenses.

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                            • kmoser
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 1398

                              #2564
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Mabster
                              Not sure the contract clause but I think he's said that everywhere he's been.

                              He has the right to be released when the contract is up, so he can head to free agency before the 6 yrs of ML service rule

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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #2565
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by kmoser
                                He has the right to be released when the contract is up, so he can head to free agency before the 6 yrs of ML service rule
                                That is....an interesting clause.

                                Kudos to his agent on getting that one done.
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