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[SPTO]

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Apparently the other major stumbling block to real grass is the air circulation system, both in terms of mechanical ventilation infrastructure, and the physical architecture of the Dome.

Who knew air circulation was such a big deal? I wouldn't want to mess with any of the air currents the way it's set up because the stadium is perfect right now. It's a hitter friendly park but it's also due in no small part to environment as it seems to me the ball jumps out more when the dome is open rather than closed. The tearing down of the old Windows Restaurant area also opened up the air currents as the HR numbers have really jumped off the charts since it was torn down.

[Majingir]

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2018 is when the grass should be there. The CFL team is being moved out of the stadium starting in 2016(so in about 3 or so months,they won't be playing at Rogers Centre anymore).

Like mentioned,there's already people at a university working on it. I think they traveled down to Milwaukee to learn about the system they're using with the drainage and more notably, how they take care of the grass. So this is basically what they're learning about in terms of taking care of it:

[bad_philanthropy]

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Who knew air circulation was such a big deal? I wouldn't want to mess with any of the air currents the way it's set up because the stadium is perfect right now. It's a hitter friendly park but it's also due in no small part to environment as it seems to me the ball jumps out more when the dome is open rather than closed. The tearing down of the old Windows Restaurant area also opened up the air currents as the HR numbers have really jumped off the charts since it was torn down.

Didn't even think about the effect it could have on the Dome as a hitters park! If grass ruins the launching pad I'll always view the grass as a bittersweet addition.

[Majingir]

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Cool little stat coming out of the Jays game today.

LaTroy Hawkins is just the 14th pitcher all time to record a save against every team in the league. Done it against all 30 current teams,as well as even the Expos too(meaning he's done so against the Expos AND Nats separately)

Guys like Rivera,Hoffman AREN'T on that list of guys to do it against every team!

[AC]

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Toronto fans...

Do you have any good news articles/info on the team looking into installing infield dirt and grass? I don't understand why they don't do the exact same thing that STL did for the old Busch stadium?

don't listen to any of the posts above it's never ever going to happen and it's the worst thing

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Grass should be a requirement for every team in baseball. In my opinion, it's not really true baseball without the grass. You Toronto fans are passionate about your team, but you don't know what you're missing game in and game out from a purely aesthetic standpoint not having grass.... Now someone can feel free to post something about how the Brooklyn Atlantics or the New York Nine played on parking lots and in alleys back in the 1800s, lol

[slickdtc]

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The guy I always remember from that terrible Tigers season is Mike Maroth, I believe. Dude lost 20 games that year I'm pretty sure. Stuck around and I think he was still on the roster when they made the WS.

Unless my memory is mixing things up, that's what I remember. That redemption. Very cool.

FACTS: he lost 21 games that year. Rebounded to become an average or below average pitcher, eventually doing some relief work. Was left off the WS roster. Apparently he's a coach now for the Mud Hens.

[Speedy]

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The main reason it hasn't been done is because of their other tenant the Argos in the CFL. They'll be leaving for BMO field in 2016. There are other factors such as installing a drainage system which may require major construction as they'd need to lower the base of the stadium further into the ground.

Excuse my ignorance here but how do they get the water off the field currently with no drainage system? Squeegees?

2018 is when the grass should be there. The CFL team is being moved out of the stadium starting in 2016(so in about 3 or so months,they won't be playing at Rogers Centre anymore).

Like mentioned,there's already people at a university working on it. I think they traveled down to Milwaukee to learn about the system they're using with the drainage and more notably, how they take care of the grass. So this is basically what they're learning about in terms of taking care of it:

This looks interesting...this is how they cultivate it?

Grass should be a requirement for every team in baseball. In my opinion, it's not really true baseball without the grass. You Toronto fans are passionate about your team, but you don't know what you're missing game in and game out from a purely aesthetic standpoint not having grass....

I agree...with the amount of health issues and risks that has come out surrounding artificial turf, grass should be a requirement.

[kehlis]

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Excuse my ignorance here but how do they get the water off the field currently with no drainage system.

They close the roof and don't let rain get on the field.

[Speedy]

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They close the roof and don't let rain get on the field.

Not always.

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/37882170/

[Majingir]

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I agree...with the amount of health issues and risks that has come out surrounding artificial turf, grass should be a requirement.

If I were Jays/Rogers(their owners) I'd be trying to get grass ASAP. 2018 is their timeframe, but if they can get it earlier,they prob will. Million dollar team with $1 insurance type of thing with the horrible field they got.

Players have Jays on their NTC simply because of their field, has nothing to do with the city itself, it's just simply that they don't like the field. Even RA Dickey said that when he first came to Toronto,that he hated the field(and he's a pitcher who barely has to ever walk on the field during play).

The one thing I really don't understand is why they don't have actual dirt in the infield? They're the only team in the entire league to not have an all dirt infield. I know it'd take years for them to have grass, but can't they at least put a bandaid on it for now in the form of dirt in the infield? So at least that part is covered and reduces injury risk for their IF.

[Jr.]

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I agree...with the amount of health issues and risks that has come out surrounding artificial turf, grass should be a requirement.

I haven't heard anything about field turf being more injurious than natural grass. The old carpet stuff was bad, but the new stuff feels like grass when you play on it.

This article references numerous studies with no significant findings either way: http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/s...jury-rate.html

[SPTO]

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Excuse my ignorance here but how do they get the water off the field currently with no drainage system? Squeegees?

In the instance when it rains while the roof is closing they'll play through it. That amount of rain isn't going to be enough to destroy the turf. There has only been maybe 1 or 2 rain delays in the history of the dome and I believe they're put some kind of covering over the infield.

I don't understand AC's vehement opposition to a grass field. It's going to happen as it's been talked about consistently here over the last 3-4 years.

[AC]

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In the instance when it rains while the roof is closing they'll play through it. That amount of rain isn't going to be enough to destroy the turf. There has only been maybe 1 or 2 rain delays in the history of the dome and I believe they're put some kind of covering over the infield.

I don't understand AC's vehement opposition to a grass field. It's going to happen as it's been talked about consistently here over the last 3-4 years.

No no no, I'm saying that it's the worst thing that we're never going to get a grass field. I want grass very badly, but I have a strong suspicion it's all smoke and mirrors.

[Majingir]

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Too bad MLB can't just force them to do so.