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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #4006
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by redsox4evur
    So if Williams said he can't do it then he is violating the contract the parties agreed to.
    This is what I was responding to. There is no variable with this statement.

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    • Sportsforever
      NL MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 20368

      #4007
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      What am I missing...why does ANYONE care about the White Sox/LaRoche situation?
      "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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      • kehlis
        Moderator
        • Jul 2008
        • 27738

        #4008
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Sportsforever
        What am I missing...why does ANYONE care about the White Sox/LaRoche situation?
        Because it's March.

        If you have something better to talk about by all means post it. Would love to talk about something other than this.

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        • Sportsforever
          NL MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 20368

          #4009
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by kehlis
          Because it's March.

          If you have something better to talk about by all means post it. Would love to talk about something other than this.
          Maybe...I just can't believe I log in and find 3 pages of or so of this discussion. I guess I don't see the big deal with the entire situation.
          "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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          • kehlis
            Moderator
            • Jul 2008
            • 27738

            #4010
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            Maybe...I just can't believe I log in and find 3 pages of or so of this discussion. I guess I don't see the big deal with the entire situation.
            Maybe what? It's March. There is nothing to discuss. Knight even tried to change the discussion and it didn't work.

            There really isn't anything going on. If there is something else to talk about right now I think we would all benefit from it but I can't come up with anything. If you can, by all means, do so.

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            • Sportsforever
              NL MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 20368

              #4011
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              So the WBC isn't until next Spring, but I saw where players are leaving teams in ST to go play for their countries in qualifiers. What do people think of the WBC?

              I dread it coming about every 4 years. For one, it really messes with the "routine" of the regular season as players aren't in camp with their teams and it pushes the regular season start back a week or so. Secondly, for some of the teams (ahem, USA), the best players don't play and treat it like an exhibition anyway. I can't blame a Clayton Kershaw or Mike Trout for not playing as anything other than MLB regular season games are exhibition in a way, but it really takes away from the luster.

              Anyway...I just dread when this tournament rolls around. Just don't like it.
              "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #4012
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Not to drag the topic back but it was a verbal agreement and not contractual. Like they had a verbal agreement that LaRoche wouldn't completely suck.

                Why doesn't the WBC just happen somewhere warm or in a dome in December or something?
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #4013
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by AC
                  Not to drag the topic back but it was a verbal agreement and not contractual. Like they had a verbal agreement that LaRoche wouldn't completely suck.

                  Why doesn't the WBC just happen somewhere warm or in a dome in December or something?
                  Players being out of game shape I believe was the initial concern.

                  Not that March is any better.
                  "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                  "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #4014
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Yeah lol I'm pretty sure March would be worse. Guys play winter league ball.
                    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                    • Master Live 013
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 12327

                      #4015
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      WBC is a glorified exhibition. Yet I go ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ since otherwise I wouldn't get to see some of the stars that play in the tournament (usually PR is one of the hosting venues).

                      Yet this isn't even the "real" WBC, it is the qualifier. The actual WBC is taking place in 2017.
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #4016
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Speaking of the WBC there are two regional finals being broadcast on MLB-N this weekend.


                        Back to the LaRoche thing for one second, as AC said it was a verbal agreement but even if it was written down I think a perk like that is one of those things that an employer can and should unilaterally change if it's not working out for both sides. Obviously something changed whereby the Chi-Sox felt that LaRoche's kid couldn't be there EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. As I understand it, they didn't go from "Yeah, he can be there all the time." to "Sorry Adam, he can't be there ever again." It really seems to me like Adam LaRoche was the one that made this a bigger story than it had any right to be.
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                        • AC
                          Win the East
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14951

                          #4017
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          I went to Canada/USA in 2009 or whenever and it was actually kinda fun. Gimmicky, but fun.
                          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                          • TripleCrown9
                            Keep the Faith
                            • May 2010
                            • 23668

                            #4018
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Here's a fun list I came across. Each team's Top 5 for home runs against.

                            Spoiler
                            Boston Red Sox
                            1903 1912 1915 1916 1918 2004 2007 2013 2018
                            9 4 1 8 27 6 14 45 26 34

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                            • fatleg3
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3602

                              #4019
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              It does seam like Ortiz hits a home run against TB every series.

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                              • CMH
                                Making you famous
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 26203

                                #4020
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by SPTO
                                Speaking of the WBC there are two regional finals being broadcast on MLB-N this weekend.


                                Back to the LaRoche thing for one second, as AC said it was a verbal agreement but even if it was written down I think a perk like that is one of those things that an employer can and should unilaterally change if it's not working out for both sides. Obviously something changed whereby the Chi-Sox felt that LaRoche's kid couldn't be there EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. As I understand it, they didn't go from "Yeah, he can be there all the time." to "Sorry Adam, he can't be there ever again." It really seems to me like Adam LaRoche was the one that made this a bigger story than it had any right to be.
                                It seems to me a few people complained and Williams is respecting their anonymity by not saying who. Clearly, whoever complained isn't telling anyone else including the clubhouse, likely because they know the push back they'll receive.

                                Williams is taking the blows as management should do in these scenarios. As a person in that position at work, it happens. It often goes unappreciated but the tension not taking the blame could create between coworkers makes it necessary.
                                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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