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[CMH]

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Chris Sale said Ken Williams told "bald-faced lie," variously blamed teammtes, coaches and management for change in Drake La Roche's access.— Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) March 18, 2016
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More from the WhiteSox clubhouse:
According to Todd Frazier no players asked Sox to remove Drake LaRoche— Bruce Levine (@MLBBruceLevine) March 18, 2016
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Also this tweet is great:
@MLBBruceLevine In business, if employee dsn't want to comply, then part ways. WhiteSox should trade Sale & anyone else wanting 2 boycott— Chad Woehrle (@ChadWoehrle) March 18, 2016
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I'll trade Swihart, Rodriguez, Owens, Benintendi, and JBJ+ for Sale.

What crap is Chad even talking?

The situations are completely different.

LaRoche CHOSE to retire. The White Sox did not say he needed to leave if he didn't like the decision.

So now because Sale doesn't like the decision, Chad is going to call upon his business acumen and suggest the White Sox trade him?

Sometimes being snark results in saying something stupid. This is why media should report and keep opinions out of things.

Edit. Oops. I don't think Chad is with the media. Levine is. I retract my last sentence.

[redsox4evur]

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What crap is Bruce Levine even talking?

The situations are completely different.

LaRoche CHOSE to retire. The White Sox did not say he needed to leave if he didn't like the decision.

So now because Sale doesn't like the decision, Levine is going to call upon his business acumen and suggest the White Sox trade him?

Sometimes being snark results in saying something stupid. This is why media should report and keep opinions out of things.

Yea I'm not trading a Cy Young contender just because he disagrees with this situation. And is taking a stand against management.


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[King_B_Mack]

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Yea I'm not trading a Cy Young contender just because he disagrees with this situation. And is taking a stand against management.


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I would trade him....to the north side...for peanuts. That should set things straight.

[redsox4evur]

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I would trade him....to the north side...for peanuts. That should set things straight.

Yea as a Red Sox fan I would gladly take him and pay market price for him even (minus Moncada). But as a White Sox fan I don't see a reason to trade him.


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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If anything, I could see the White Sox sacking Kenny Williams. Not saying he did or didn't do anything wrong, but if I had an exec who pissed off ALL of my players while overruling the manager and GM, he'd probably be toast from an organizational harmony standpoint. That said, Kenny is far too cozy with Reinsdorf to be in any real danger.

[King_B_Mack]

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So LaRoche released a statement and claims that he was told that he couldn't bring his kid at all. I don't really buy that Kenny told him he couldn't bring the kid at all. That to me sounds highly unlikely.

[CMH]

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If there was an agreement and the club rescinded on that agreement, I can't complain about the guy.

He wrote a letter to address the issue and I think he did a good job clearing it up. Interested to see how Williams responds to LaRoche stating that Williams changed "scale back" to full on "ban".

[SPTO]

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This story is just too crazy. If indeed Williams changed his tune from "scale back" to "ban" than yeah the blame definitely falls on him. I don't really see that being the truth but then again I remember Williams being a bit of a an A-hole when he traded Mike Sirotka to the Jays under phony pretenses. (the medicals weren't exactly truthful) So it's not like Williams is a choirboy in that regard either.

This is not the greatest way to start the year for the Chi-Sox. You never want to have a near mutiny and dissension within the clubhouse over a situation that could easily be resolved. In the end I think the blame has to be spread around a bit to everyone involved.

[slickdtc]

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Probably was told to keep it to a sometime thing and refused to settle for the cut back. Williams probably said okay then how about none of the time.

Someone's a liar here.

When's the season start? Lol

[dubcity]

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Spoiled athletes lol. Getting paid $13M for a .207 AVG, but it's still not enough. I don't care what was promised or what wasn't, it's a bad look to bitch and whine about it.

[dubcity]

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Saw he had a .362 OBP. Billy Beane might take a look at him.

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That was in 2014, last year it was sub .300 ... which, yeah Beane probably is still interested.

[redsox4evur]

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Also there was supposedly something in his contract that he negotiated with the team saying he could bring his kid to the clubhouse. So if Williams said he can't do it then he is violating the contract the parties agreed to.


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[Speedy]

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Also there was supposedly something in his contract that he negotiated with the team saying he could bring his kid to the clubhouse. So if Williams said he can't do it then he is violating the contract the parties agreed to.


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That adds to the subplot.

[kehlis]

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Also there was supposedly something in his contract that he negotiated with the team saying he could bring his kid to the clubhouse. So if Williams said he can't do it then he is violating the contract the parties agreed to.


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So "supposedly" something equates to Williams violating the contract to you?

What were the deals of said contract? Was it you can bring your kid to the park or was it you are permitted to bring him every day.

After saying he violated the contract I'm assuming you know the details.

[redsox4evur]

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So "supposedly" something equates to Williams violating the contract to you?



What were the deals of said contract? Was it you can bring your kid to the park or was it you are permitted to bring him every day.



After saying he violated the contract I'm assuming you know the details.

First off I don't know the language of the contact. I said supposedly it was in the contract he could bring his kid to the park. Because I saw it on social media somewhere. Then IF Williams said he can't bring the kid at all THEN he is violating the contract. Not that Williams actually violated the contract. If that stipulation was in there then he says you can't bring your kid around at all that is violating contract, right?


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