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  • Speedy
    #Ace
    • Apr 2008
    • 16143

    #3841
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    I'm not into soccer but I'm presuming that relegation is from that (premier league, etc.).

    Can somebody explain it further and how it work with MLB?
    Originally posted by Gibson88
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    It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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    • redsox4evur
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2013
      • 18169

      #3842
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Speedy
      I'm not into soccer but I'm presuming that relegation is from that (premier league, etc.).

      Can somebody explain it further and how it work with MLB?
      No idea how it would work in MLB. But it's pretty much the worst 3 teams in the top league get relegated (moved down to lower league). And the 3 best teams from that lower league get promoted into the top league.
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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23663

        #3843
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Speedy
        I'm not into soccer but I'm presuming that relegation is from that (premier league, etc.).

        Can somebody explain3it further and how it work with MLB?
        If the Phillies are bad, they get moved to AAA. Whichever AAA team is really good at the time takes their place in MLB.
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        • fugazi
          MVP
          • Apr 2003
          • 3749

          #3844
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by Majingir
          Unfortunately, i don't know if it'd work. Quality of players to have 2 leagues, basically 60 teams, is too much, especially attendance. Would fans support a relegated team? Sports culture here is just too different from that
          Nah, you'd split the 30-32 MLB teams into two leagues, with some "interleague" play.

          Would fans support a relegated team?
          I dunno...would they show up during the stretch run as teams try to get their head above water?
          Would they show up as their team is finishing the season in a tight race to see who gets to be promoted?
          Do fans even support TB? Do they support dumpster fires like SD, Miami, etc?

          Not only do you have the POSTSEASON, as usual...but you would have, idk, 3-5 teams in each "league" with something very real to play for as September approaches. Those 3-5 teams would be afterthoughts by the end of July or mid-August as is...
          Last edited by fugazi; 03-01-2016, 04:30 PM.
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          • areobee401
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2006
            • 16771

            #3845
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            I just don't see relegated teams idea sitting well with American sports fans and owners. Is there anything to out there that suggests a revenue increase in any way? I'm not trying to shoot down your idea as it is interesting and something I'd personally be open to, just a tough sell imo.
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            • IlliniM1ke
              Heroes Never Die
              • Feb 2003
              • 8082

              #3846
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by areobee401
              I just don't see relegated teams idea sitting well with American sports fans and owners. Is there anything to out there that suggests a revenue increase in any way? I'm not trying to shoot down your idea as it is interesting and something I'd personally be open to, just a tough sell imo.
              Can't imagine relegation being successful in terms of revenue, say you have 3 big market teams happen to have awful seasons, you're relegating them (less fans probably show up to watch them in a B league) while bringing up 3 smaller markets to the big stage (who even with that attention likely don't draw as well as the 3 you relegated).

              Not sure how it works in soccer since I don't follow it but as exciting as the idea sounds I can't imagine it succeeding in North American sports.
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              • IlliniM1ke
                Heroes Never Die
                • Feb 2003
                • 8082

                #3847
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by fugazi
                No thanks on splitting up the Cards and Cubs if that happens.
                Also this, can't see any way MLB would break up that rivalry with realignment.
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                • fugazi
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 3749

                  #3848
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by areobee401
                  I just don't see relegated teams idea sitting well with American sports fans and owners. Is there anything to out there that suggests a revenue increase in any way? I'm not trying to shoot down your idea as it is interesting and something I'd personally be open to, just a tough sell imo.
                  Totally...like so many good ideas, the average American would likely dismiss it off-hand
                  Australian Rules Football...just sayin'

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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #3849
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    I can't see relegation ever working in North American sports. I mean, what if you're a star player and you're on a team that's stacked (like say the Red Sox) and they have a real bad year and finish last in their division/one of the worst records in the league. I can just see the big name guys screaming to get out of Beantown/any major city because they can't fathom playing in the lower tier league.
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                    • TheMatrix31
                      RF
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 52897

                      #3850
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      How about stop ****ing with **** for once.

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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #3851
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Money99
                        Austin Texas? Yeah, that's very surprising.
                        I wonder if Vancouver could support a team? What about Virginia?
                        Vancouver has the right kind of fan base with a lot of die hard fans but I think with such a low population it would really rely on fans coming in from all over the West Coast and other Canadian provinces. I could see it though, and TSN would fork over a fortune to broadcast games considering I don't think they solely broadcast a single major sport right now.

                        It might be my #1 "I wish it were plausible" expansion city since Montreal already had a go.
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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #3852
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by AC
                          Vancouver has the right kind of fan base with a lot of die hard fans but I think with such a low population it would really rely on fans coming in from all over the West Coast and other Canadian provinces. I could see it though, and TSN would fork over a fortune to broadcast games considering I don't think they solely broadcast a single major sport right now.
                          Neither does Sportsnet and anyways that's a bit wrong as well since I believe TSN is the exclusive Canadian broadcaster of MLS and definitely the sole rights holder of NCAA athletics and the CFL.

                          I do think that if there's going to be a 2nd Canadian MLB team that Bell will DEFINITELY be the main owners in any ownership group and thus having exclusive rights to their games.
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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #3853
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Sportsnet solely broadcasts the Blue Jays and essentially broadcasts hockey, which they just paid $5.2 billion for. They broadcast the vast majority of Raptors games and neither broadcasts football, minus the Argos, who aren't important in terms of making money at all. I also wouldn't say that MLS is major.
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                            • Speedy
                              #Ace
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 16143

                              #3854
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by SPTO
                              I can't see relegation ever working in North American sports. I mean, what if you're a star player and you're on a team that's stacked (like say the Red Sox) and they have a real bad year and finish last in their division/one of the worst records in the league. I can just see the big name guys screaming to get out of Beantown/any major city because they can't fathom playing in the lower tier league.
                              I still don't understand how it works so excuse the upcoming ignorant questions.

                              Would teams be delegated down to a lower tier easily? Does it mean that only teams in the "premier" league face each other and not teams from a higher/lower tier (would seem to get pretty bland though, no?)...do all of the teams start at the same level and get down/upgraded as the season progresses?

                              I think it's intriguing, personally.
                              Originally posted by Gibson88
                              Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                              It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                              • redsox4evur
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 18169

                                #3855
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Speedy
                                I still don't understand how it works so excuse the upcoming ignorant questions.

                                Would teams be delegated down to a lower tier easily?
                                Does it mean that only teams in the "premier" league face each other and not teams from a higher/lower tier (would seem to get pretty bland though, no?)...
                                Do all of the teams start at the same level and get down/upgraded as the season progresses?

                                I think it's intriguing, personally.
                                Yes they would if you are one of the 3 worst teams in a league you are relegated. So last year the 3 MLB teams that would have been relegated are the Phillies, Reds and Braves. And the 3 promoted teams would have been the Oklahoma City Dodgers, Fresno Grizzlies, and the Columbus Clippers.

                                Yes MLB teams would only face other MLB teams (when it comes to relegation). But in European football they have what they call domestic cups, which is a tournament to see who the best team in that country is.

                                No you have let's say 30 teams in MLB, 30 teams in AAA, 30 teams in AA, and 30 teams in A. All those teams stay in that league until the end of the season.
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