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[Speedy]

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I had a feeling he was gone but not this soon...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...placement.html

Wow...I expected at least another season.

[19]

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I guess they were serious about retooling. Thought he would at least last the rest of the season.

[19]

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Ya, Gibbons should be suspended since he did break a rule, but how does Sanchez get fined/suspended but not a single Royals player gets it?

Volquez admitted he hit Donaldson intentionally,and mocks him as well for that, but he gets nothing. Royals hit one of Jays best players AFTER a warning was given, and nothing happens. 2 other times a pitch came within a few inches of drilling Donaldson in the head....nothing happens.

1 Jays pitch which grazes Escobar on his leg..lets suspend/fine Sanchez.

Royals involved in a bench clearing incident with a 3rd team in a span of 4 months(1 with CWS,I think 2-3 with the A's? Now 1 with Jays), so how does reputation not come into play here? Royals are known this season for getting into these incidents, so how are they not getting in trouble at all...

Don't forget when Ventura wanted to fight Trout. That still makes me laugh.

[Psyblast]

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Dombrowski post-mortem:

Helped turn one of the laughingstocks in all of sports into a contender despite going against the conventional method of building a succesful baseball team these days, should be in possession of permanent ownership papers of the Marlins because he skull****ed them not once but twice, gave out some horrendous contracts (and ironically saw this team's championship window get slammed shut because he couldn't give out one more), and ultimately fell short of the goal set forth by the owner.

[Chip Douglass]

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I hope he appeals...I mean c'mon that was NOT intentional.

Well, it was pretty clearly intentional to me, and that's fine, since he had every right to retaliate and that's the way you're supposed to do it.

It's ridiculous that KC could throw near Donaldson's head three times and get away with it.

[SPTO]

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Well, it was pretty clearly intentional to me, and that's fine, since he had every right to retaliate and that's the way you're supposed to do it.

It's ridiculous that KC could throw near Donaldson's head three times and get away with it.

I half suspect that it would've taken Donaldson or Tulo getting injured in order for KC to be punished.

[l3ulvl]

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I had a feeling he was gone but not this soon...

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...placement.html

I'm bummed. Once we became sellers I thought that meant DD was staying for the rebuild

[Speedy]

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Dombrowski post-mortem:

Helped turn one of the laughingstocks in all of sports into a contender despite going against the conventional method of building a succesful baseball team these days, should be in possession of permanent ownership papers of the Marlins because he skull****ed them not once but twice, gave out some horrendous contracts (and ironically saw this team's championship window get slammed shut because he couldn't give out one more), and ultimately fell short of the goal set forth by the owner.

So what's your grade...0-100, Psy?

EDIT: I tried to make the below nice/pretty but OS didn't like; oh well.

Year Wins Losses Win% Division Result Playoff Result
2002 55 100 .355 5th in AL Central -
2003 43 119 .265 5th in AL Central -
2004 72 90 .444 4th in AL Central -
2005 71 91 .438 4th in AL Central -
2006 95 67 .586 2nd in AL Central Lost in WS
2007 88 74 .543 2nd in AL Central -
2008 74 88 .457 5th in AL Central -
2009 86 77 .528 2nd in AL Central -
2010 81 81 .500 3rd in AL Central -
2011 95 67 .586 1st in AL Central Lost in ALCS
2012 88 74 .543 1st in AL Central Lost in WS
2013 93 69 .574 1st in AL Central Lost in ALCS
2014 90 72 .556 1st in AL Central Lost in ALDS

[HozAndMoose]

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Volquez did hit Donaldson on purpose the first time to me. The second one near his head. Madson hitting Tulo and then Madson almost hitting Donaldson were completely accidental. You arent hitting a player with a change up. And you cant deny that Tulo and Donaldson crowd the plate. Tulo especially.

You are allowed to work inside. If you stand that close to the plate you are going to get hit. The only reason Sanchez was suspended was because he was thrown out of the game. If he hadnt been MLB wouldnt have done anything. Its just MLB backing its umps.

[Majingir]

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So...Dombrowski released as Tigers GM so he could "pursue other opportunities". Has been linked as possible future president of Jays(since their current president is retiring after this season), looks like that could very well be his next destination!

Didn't hear anything about this until around the time of the Price deal, then people were suggesting that the guy who just traded Price to Toronto, could very well be coming to Toronto himself. Along with being part of the Marlins organization, he was with the Expos for a few years as GM also,layed the groundwork for what would be the dominant 94 Expos.

[SPTO]

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So...Dombrowski released as Tigers GM so he could "pursue other opportunities". Has been linked as possible future president of Jays(since their current president is retiring after this season), looks like that could very well be his next destination!

He seems like a more natural fit as a guy who can mingle with the business types yet has a successful baseball background. Don't forget he's also worked in Canada before.

Still, the pipedream idea of Billy Beane taking that position has me intrigued.

[Majingir]

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He seems like a more natural fit as a guy who can mingle with the business types yet has a successful baseball background. Don't forget he's also worked in Canada before.

Still, the pipedream idea of Billy Beane taking that position has me intrigued.

I think he would be great fit,especially with AA. Both with somewhat similar paths.

Dombrowski was director of player personnel with Expos for abit before taking over as GM and being youngest GM in MLB at the time at the age of 31.

AA was scout for Expos for abit before being scout/assistant GM on Jays and then becoming GM at the age of 32.

[Psyblast]

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So what's your grade...0-100, Psy?

EDIT: I tried to make the below nice/pretty but OS didn't like; oh well.

Year Wins Losses Win% Division Result Playoff Result
2002 55 100 .355 5th in AL Central -
2003 43 119 .265 5th in AL Central -
2004 72 90 .444 4th in AL Central -
2005 71 91 .438 4th in AL Central -
2006 95 67 .586 2nd in AL Central Lost in WS
2007 88 74 .543 2nd in AL Central -
2008 74 88 .457 5th in AL Central -
2009 86 77 .528 2nd in AL Central -
2010 81 81 .500 3rd in AL Central -
2011 95 67 .586 1st in AL Central Lost in ALCS
2012 88 74 .543 1st in AL Central Lost in WS
2013 93 69 .574 1st in AL Central Lost in ALCS
2014 90 72 .556 1st in AL Central Lost in ALDS

Depends on the context. Strictly speaking, he took over a team that was one of the worst in American sports and played a large role in turning them into a team that won four division titles and went to two World Series.

But even that depends on how much credit you want to give him. He certainly made some really great moves - like I said, he should have ownership papers on the Marlins, he ravaged that franchise with the two trades he made with them. But at the same time, the Tigers rising from 119 losses to 95 wins and an AL pennant in three years (and the subsequent success after that) also directly corresponded with Mike Ilitch deciding to open up the checkbook and actually give a damn about his baseball team like he gave a damn about his hockey team.

Ultimately, the goal for Dombrowski was to assemble a team that would win a World Series before Mike Ilitch died. That didn't happen, and obviously now isn't going to happen. Overall, from 1-100, I'd give Dombrowski an 88-90. A solid B+/A-.

[redsox4evur]

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Dembrowski is coming to Boston...they got rid of Lucchino for a reason.

[The Kid 24]

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Dembrowski is coming to Boston...they got rid of Lucchino for a reason.

Is that just a hunch?