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[Jr.]

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Why do you hate Heyward Jr.?

I think he's overrated and he played for the Braves and Cardinals, my two most-despised teams.

He seems like a good enough guy, but I hold that stuff against him.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Makes sense, I always heard he was a decent guy I didn't know if there was something I hadn't heard. I totally understand hatred based on former teams lol.

[Chip Douglass]

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Pedro's 1-hitter against the Indians in 2000 has been ranked the single greatest pitching performance of the Modern Era by FiveThiryEight.

http://nesn.com/2016/05/pedro-martin...formance-ever/

I'm not sure that's actually what FiveThirtyEight said.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-best-pitchers-of-all-time/?ex_cid=538fb

Nobody quite knew it at the time, but the game had long-lasting historical significance as well. According to the pitching component of our new Elo ratings, Martinez’s performance against Cleveland stands as the absolute peak moment for any starting pitcher since 1911.

In other words, Pedro reached a peak on June 8th, 2000 that was better than any other pitcher's peak in MLB history. That's different from saying that his start on June 8th, 2000 was the single best start in MLB history.

[redsox4evur]

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[Blzer]

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Just play five innings, jesus.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Lol seriously why all of a sudden is the pace a problem? Baseball is baseball specifically because we're not rushed by a clock, if the games are too slow, go watch something else.

I understand they have to do what they can to get new fans in, but people that don't like baseball just aren't going to and changing small things won't change that. Are there really people who would watch baseball if the games were 2 and a half hours instead of 2 and 45 minutes?

[Money99]

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I agree that people need to accept that the game is slow.
But at the same time, the average game shouldn't be 3 hours.

If you read boxscores from years past, you'll see that a lot of games ended in approximately 2 hours.
Why was it so much faster back then? Commercial breaks are part of it, but to add a whole hour?

I recently read a Hank Aaron biography and in one game that lasted 14 innings, the author noted that the game took 2.5 hours to complete. It was the longest game of the year at that point in the season. That's still 30 minutes less than the average 9-inning game today.

There is way too much pimping going on between pitches.
There's no reason for someone to adjust his batting gloves 18x between each pitch.
Just like there's no reason a pitcher has to lolligag walking around the mound between every throw.

Get in the friggin box, throw the friggin ball and get at it.

[dubcity]

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Well, apparently there are players who are habitual offenders of the "rules," and pitches-per-game is at its highest point in 7 years. It's only a 7 minute increase compared to last season, but I'm glad they're still paying attention to this.

I'd be in favor if limiting the number of pitching changes per game or per inning. There's nothing rooted in grand baseball tradition about having successive relief pitchers face one batter each based on statistical matchups.

[AC]

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Well, apparently there are players who are habitual offenders of the "rules," and pitches-per-game is at its highest point in 7 years. It's only a 7 minute increase compared to last season, but I'm glad they're still paying attention to this.

I'd be in favor if limiting the number of pitching changes per game or per inning. There's nothing rooted in grand baseball tradition about having successive relief pitchers face one batter each based on statistical matchups.

PA would probably protest it because it would put a lot of LOOGYs out of work.

[dubcity]

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I agree that people need to accept that the game is slow.
But at the same time, the average game shouldn't be 3 hours.

If you read boxscores from years past, you'll see that a lot of games ended in approximately 2 hours.
Why was it so much faster back then? Commercial breaks are part of it, but to add a whole hour?

I recently read a Hank Aaron biography and in one game that lasted 14 innings, the author noted that the game took 2.5 hours to complete. It was the longest game of the year at that point in the season. That's still 30 minutes less than the average 9-inning game today.

There is way too much pimping going on between pitches.
There's no reason for someone to adjust his batting gloves 18x between each pitch.
Just like there's no reason a pitcher has to lolligag walking around the mound between every throw.

Get in the friggin box, throw the friggin ball and get at it.

It's funny how a lot of that stuff is just somehow accepted as part of the game, as if baseball has always had this slow of pace. And challenging it is somehow challenging the great tradition of the game. It's complete BS. Pitchers and batters have been spoiled and allowed to extend their meaningless, superstitious pre-pitch routines for longer and longer from the 1980s-1990s onward.

[CMH]

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No need to change rules on how the game is played.

What needs to change is the pace. Penalize batters for stepping out (for real). Penalize pitchers for staring at the catcher. Penalize teams for catchers not throwing down signs.

And last but not least, AT ALL, how about a less time between innings. I know what that means for money but hey, I know guys won't like this, put the ads somewhere else.

[redsox4evur]

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No need to change rules on how the game is played.

What needs to change is the pace. Penalize batters for stepping out (for real). Penalize pitchers for staring at the catcher. Penalize teams for catchers not throwing down signs.

And last but not least, AT ALL, how about a less time between innings. I know what that means for money but hey, I know guys won't like this, put the ads somewhere else.

And the places where these ads can go include but aren't limited to the field of play (ala soccer), jerseys (both game worn and fans).

[CMH]

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And the places where these ads can go include but aren't limited to the field of play (ala soccer), jerseys (both game worn and fans).

Exactly. It's the only other way.

It's mostly ironic that management will complain about pace but then have long commercial breaks.

At some point they want the games to be 2.5 hours of commercials and ten minutes of in-game action.

I feel like Futurama already covered this.

[redsox4evur]

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Exactly. It's the only other way.

It's mostly ironic that management will complain about pace but then have long commercial breaks.

At some point they want the games to be 2.5 hours of commercials and ten minutes of in-game action.

I feel like Futurama already covered this.

I don't know about the Futurama part, lol. But I'm surprised the Big 4 haven't used the same type of ads you see on a soccer field down by the goalline. That way you are running ads all throughout the game. I'm actually surprised no one is using it.

[Blzer]

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Lol seriously why all of a sudden is the pace a problem? Baseball is baseball specifically because we're not rushed by a clock, if the games are too slow, go watch something else.

I understand they have to do what they can to get new fans in, but people that don't like baseball just aren't going to and changing small things won't change that. Are there really people who would watch baseball if the games were 2 and a half hours instead of 2 and 45 minutes?

I like longer baseball games more, whether I'm watching them on TV, in person, or playing them.

That being said, it amazes me how long it takes a batter to get back in the box and get a pitch. I watch them stare at their upright-positioned bat and do that long exhale like something is actually processing in their head that didn't the last 34,927 pitches they have seen in their careers. Unless you're getting a sign, keep your back foot in the box (if not your front foot), and ready yourself for that next pitch.

But keep the action as long as possible, of course!