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Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
You said in a post that being a great announcer shouldn't be determined by you talking about analytics. You also said you don't like that analytics is being forced on you.
Then you said, the article only liked the older guys if they didn't crap on analytics.
So my point is they were okay with those announcers because they may not like analytics but they don't insult them. Whereas the guys that do are blamed for ignoring advanced statistics, as they should be.
Again maybe I'm misunderstanding but you're expressing disappointment over guys not being liked for craping on analytics while also saying they are inconsistent for liking guys that don't talk analytics. The two are not synonymous.
One group doesn't like them but respects them. The other doesn't like them and craps on them. It's pretty simple to see why the former is liked while the latter is not."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
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You are misunderstanding because I'm doing a right awful job of getting across my problem with the article.
I guess an example would be why Hawk is ranked over Dick Bremer. Hawk hates them, famously, and Bremer supposedly shows "disdain" for them when he has to talk about them. There's hardly any difference but Hawk is ranked higher. If you're going to right an article based on fangraph readers' appreciation of an announcer, it doesn't make any sense to have the guy who hates them more than any of the other ones ranked above a guy who actually uses them and have a guy at #1 who also never uses them.
That's why I said there's way more to being a good announcer than the ability regurgitate those ridiculous numbers ad nauseam and do it with a smile. I just wish the article had addressed that better.Comment
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The ranking system isn't arbitrary, it's based on votes by the readers. They didn't choose the order of the list.
Also struggling with dealing with how much I hate the Blue Jays and how much I love Josh Donaldson, dude is just awesome. He went on a rant about beaning guys and how its wrong and I have to say I agree with him. There's nothing a hitter can do because if he charges the mound, he's gonna get suspended. And even worse as he points out is his manager gets tossed for going out and trying to restore some order.
Favorite part and why he's my guy: "I'm not going to throw a projectile at the pitcher. I'm not going to throw a projectile at anybody. I go out there and I play the game. If you don't like something I do, I don't care. You're not supposed to like me as an opponent."Last edited by DieHardYankee26; 05-23-2016, 08:43 AM.Originally posted by G PericoComment
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Another reason I want the NL to keep pitchers hitting. Make pitchers hold themselves accountable for their actions on the mound when they come up to bat.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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hitters who get plunked aren't always innocentComment
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Stance has become official sock for MLB starting in 2017.
Leave the socks alone! They better not force every player to wear high socks to show these stupid things off.
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Josh Hamilton is going to miss the entire season due to surgery.
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I hope Manfred listens to you, Donaldson.Originally posted by Gibson88Comment
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I find it ironic it's the 76th pick...y'know...since we're the 76ers of MLB.Repeating a practice they completed a few times last year, the Braves added to their MLB Draft pool Monday night, when they agreed to assume the remainder of Brian Matusz's salary in exchange for acquiring a Competitive Balance Draft pick from the Orioles.
The Braves announced they acquired Matusz and the 76th pick in the upcoming Draft from the Orioles in exchange for Minor League pitchers Brandon Barker and Trevor Belicek.
"We are building for the future and the 76th pick fits within our plan," Braves general manager John Coppolella said. "We recognize value not only in terms of the potential player we select, but also in the flexibility provided with added bonus pool money."Originally posted by Gibson88Comment
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MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. — After nearly being hit twice by pitches that he deemed to be intentionally thrown at him, Josh Donaldson has had enough.
“Major League Baseball has to do something about this,” Donaldson said after the Blue Jays’ 3-1 victory over the Minnesota Twins Sunday. “They say they’re trying to protect players. They make a rule that says you can’t slide hard into second base. They make a rule to protect the catchers on slides into home. But when you throw a ball at somebody, nothing’s done about it. My manager comes out to ask what’s going on and he gets ejected for it. That’s what happens.
“I just don’t get the point,” Donaldson continued. “I don’t get what baseball’s trying to prove. If I’m a young kid watching these games, why would I want to play baseball? Why? If I do something well or if somebody doesn’t like something that I do, it’s, ‘Oh, well, I’m gonna throw at you now.’ It doesn’t make sense. It just doesn’t make sense to me.”
Donaldson’s comments come after an emotionally charged two games against the Minnesota Twins that saw both Donaldson and his manager, John Gibbons, ejected from games.
It began on Saturday, when Twins bench coach Joe Vavra yelled at Donaldson from the Twins dugout for not running out a first-inning ground ball hard enough. Donaldson chirped back. But home plate umpire Toby Basner thought Donaldson’s words were directed at him, so the umpire threw the reigning AL MVP out of the game. After the game Donaldson said he was “shocked” to be thrown out.
Then, on Sunday, in Donaldson’s first at-bat, the Blue Jays third baseman took a hanging curveball from Twins starter Phil Hughes 428-feet to centre field. As Donaldson touched the plate following the homer, he stared directly into the Twins dugout at Vavra.
“I looked right at the guy who chirped at me yesterday and got me thrown out,” Donaldson said, “letting him know I was coming to play today.”
Now flash forward to the sixth inning. Hughes—a pitcher renowned for his control who had the lowest BB/9 in the MLB two years ago—was throwing 60 per cent of his pitches for strikes and had walked only one batter. He hadn’t even come close to hitting any Blue Jays and displayed nothing but a complete command of his pitches.
But when Donaldson stepped in for his third at-bat of the game, the first pitch Hughes threw careened inches from the slugger’s hip, and the next one flew behind his back. Donaldson immediately turned to home plate umpire Mark Ripperger and raised his hands in disbelief.
“I was asking, ‘Hey, that’s twice now, what are we doing?’” Donaldson said. “He should throw him out of the game. You saw both pitches. The first one almost hit me in my gut. And the second one almost hit me in the back. It went behind me.
“If you watched the game at all, you saw Hughes was not missing. He wasn’t erratic. It would be one thing if a guy came in and he’s throwing the ball and has no idea where it’s going. Or maybe one slipped. We hear that all the time. The ball slipped. But two back-to-back? You know what he’s doing.”
Gibbons came out of the dugout to argue that Hughes should be thrown out of the game. Crew chief Joe West came over from first base to spearhead the discussion from the umpiring crew’s perspective, and after a brief debate, he threw Gibbons out of the game.
“The guy’s a strike-throwing machine. And then there’s a tight pitch, and then he throws behind him,” Gibbons said of Hughes. “I thought they were going to chuck him. But you never know what’s going to happen nowadays, if you want to know the truth. Whether it’s warnings, the guy gets thrown out, or nothing. You never know.”
What Donaldson doesn’t understand is how Hughes wasn’t reprimanded for throwing intentionally at him. And how the only person who suffered any kind of consequence was his manager.
“It’s getting to the point now where I’m upset with how it’s being handled,” Donaldson said. “Their guys want to hit me intentionally? So be it. But there has to be a consequence. Not our manager getting thrown out of the game because he came in to ask what’s happening. It makes no sense to me.
“In the rule book it says that if a pitch is deemed to be intentionally thrown at somebody, the umpire has the right and the opportunity to throw the guy out of the game. I don’t know why they don’t do it.”
Donaldson also says he harbours no ill will towards Hughes, who he feels was simply following orders.
“I don’t blame Phil Hughes. He was doing what was told. He was doing what was asked of him to do. Do I think Phil Hughes wanted to hit me? No, I don’t. I think it came from somebody else on the bench. My beef is not with Phil Hughes, the pitcher who threw at me,” Donaldson said. “My problem is with how in baseball you have to feel like you’re a tough guy by throwing a pitch at somebody who’s defenceless. I don’t have a chance. I’m not going to throw my bat at the pitcher. And in the American League, the pitcher doesn’t have to hit.
“The fact of the matter is, I’m not going to throw a projectile at the pitcher. I’m not going to throw a projectile at anybody. I go out there and I play the game. If you don’t like something I do, I don’t care. You’re not supposed to like me as an opponent.”
Donaldson feels that in an era when the MLB is instituting new rules to prioritize player safety, such as barring takeout slides at second base and eliminating collisions at home plate, the league should also be more stringently policing pitchers who intentionally throw at hitters.
He brought up Giancarlo Stanton, who was hit in the face by a Mike Fiers pitch in September 2014 and missed the remainder of the season with multiple facial fractures, lacerations and dental damage, as an example of how dangerous baseball’s score-settling practice can be.
“They’re putting my job in jeopardy,” Donaldson said. “What if he hits me in the neck right there? What if he hits me in the eye? You saw Stanton a couple years ago—he got hit in the face. The ball crushed his face. It doesn’t take much in order to break these bones in your face. And Phil Hughes didn’t throw the ball at my face. But it only takes an eighth of an inch off your release point in order for the ball to go somewhere else.”
More than anything, Donaldson doesn’t understand why the Twins dugout criticized his hustle to first base Saturday afternoon, which began the entire series of events.
“The fact of the matter is, you don’t talk to me. You don’t comment on how I’m playing during a game—if it’s good, bad, or whatever,” Donaldson said. “It’s not your business how I play the game. I’m not on your team. I play for the Toronto Blue Jays. If somebody has a problem with the way I’m playing, Gibby is going to say something to me or my teammates are going to say something to me. And then I’ll clean that up. I’ll take that. But I don’t need somebody from the other bench saying something to me.
“And for what? For what? What are we doing? They’re picking a fight from the bench, and then I’m the one that’s out there dodging baseballs.”
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That's an article from Sportsnet. I would normally but quotes around it but a lot of OS is not working for me at the moment for some reason.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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He is 100% right.
I don't understand why the Twins felt the need to go after his baserunning. Seems childish.
The act of throwing at guys needs to end. I don't care how many fans start crying about the wussification of the sport. Those same fans get upset to pay $100 to watch a game and not have their favorite players playing the game.
My opinion is the game can do without the team fanatics that root for that hard ball garbage. Real baseball fans want to watch baseball.
And yes, if you're one of those that thinks guys should be getting hit then I don't think you're a real baseball fan. Maybe MMA or violence or hurting people, sure, but not baseball.
It needs to stop. In real life if I throw a baseball at someone, my big manly self is going to jail."It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace
"You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob NeyerComment
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