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  • Jr.
    Playgirl Coverboy
    • Feb 2003
    • 19171

    #8506
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
    This is a non-story. But since it's the Red Sox, let it be blown of proportion. If this was the Reds, or the Athletics, or any of 25 other clubs, nobody would care.
    I really doubt that. I get it's one of your teams, but this is a big deal no matter who it is. It's bigger because it's Boston (and probably moreso that they're in 1st place), but it's a story regardless.
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    • Sportsforever
      NL MVP
      • Mar 2005
      • 20368

      #8507
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Honestly, now that the word is out that the Red Sox also reported the Yankees for using a YES network camera to steal signs this just looks like two kids bringing mom into their fight.
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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23663

        #8508
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Jr.
        I really doubt that. I get it's one of your teams, but this is a big deal no matter who it is. It's bigger because it's Boston (and probably moreso that they're in 1st place), but it's a story regardless.
        As stated in this thread, teams have been attempting to steal signs for 100 years. It's only a big deal because Boston used a medium that wasn't considered. And like you said, it's being made a bigger deal because they're in first place and it was against the Yankees.
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        • CMH
          Making you famous
          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #8509
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          So I'm confused. Nothing in any article broke down how exactly the hitter got the sign in time to know what pitch was coming.

          I read:

          1. Catcher puts down sign
          2. This is transmitted to Apple watch
          3. Coach reads the sign on watch
          4. Coach relays sign to player in dugout
          5. Player in dugout relays this to runner on second
          6. Runner on second relays this to hitter

          Surely the pitch has already been thrown by the time it gets to the hitter.

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          • DieHardYankee26
            BING BONG
            • Feb 2008
            • 10178

            #8510
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            Honestly, now that the word is out that the Red Sox also reported the Yankees for using a YES network camera to steal signs this just looks like two kids bringing mom into their fight.
            "Sources" denying wrongdoing by the Yankees, saying they think it's just a PR move to deflect according to Andrew Marchand.

            Oh man I didn't care about this... But if they got caught, and then just panicked and pointed the finger at someone else... That would be hilarious.

            Waiting for Ortiz and "it must just be the NY papers" again lol
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            • WaitTilNextYear
              Go Cubs Go
              • Mar 2013
              • 16830

              #8511
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Red Sox need the death penalty. Contract them. Do what you need to do. There's no excuse for using an Apple Watch in baseball.
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              • Sportsforever
                NL MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #8512
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                I'm watching the Red Sox feed for Jays/Sox...I didn't hear a word uttered by the announcers in the pre-game. Hilarious to me that they are just ignoring it...
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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #8513
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                  As stated in this thread, teams have been attempting to steal signs for 100 years. It's only a big deal because Boston used a medium that wasn't considered. And like you said, it's being made a bigger deal because they're in first place and it was against the Yankees.
                  Electronics aren't allowed to be used in the dugout. It's not as simple as they used a method no one considered.. it's against the rules.

                  Yes, stealing signs is a part of the game.. but using smartwatches to relay it is not.
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                  • Sportsforever
                    NL MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 20368

                    #8514
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by Jr.
                    Electronics aren't allowed to be used in the dugout. It's not as simple as they used a method no one considered.. it's against the rules.

                    Yes, stealing signs is a part of the game.. but using smartwatches to relay it is not.
                    Ya...I think this one is black and white. It's not that they stole signs; it's that they did it in a manner that is specifically banned. The Red Sox were caught red handed...Dombrowski didn't even try and deny it.
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                    • Jr.
                      Playgirl Coverboy
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 19171

                      #8515
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by CMH
                      So I'm confused. Nothing in any article broke down how exactly the hitter got the sign in time to know what pitch was coming.

                      I read:

                      1. Catcher puts down sign
                      2. This is transmitted to Apple watch
                      3. Coach reads the sign on watch
                      4. Coach relays sign to player in dugout
                      5. Player in dugout relays this to runner on second
                      6. Runner on second relays this to hitter

                      Surely the pitch has already been thrown by the time it gets to the hitter.

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                      It does seem very convoluted
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                      • redsox4evur
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 18169

                        #8516
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Sportsforever
                        I'm watching the Red Sox feed for Jays/Sox...I didn't hear a word uttered by the announcers in the pre-game. Hilarious to me that they are just ignoring it...

                        Hilarious to some...par for the course for Red Sox fans. Thx Dennis/Dave.


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                        • extremeskins04
                          That's top class!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 3864

                          #8517
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          As a Red Sox fan I'm pretty pissed right now. Actually I don't even know what I'm more mad about, the fact that they cheated or that they knew what Brady and the Patriots just went through for over TWO YEARS and still did it anyway.

                          And they couldn't even beat the Yankees by cheating.

                          Like I want to go throw myself off a tall building at this point.

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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52694

                            #8518
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Issue a punishment and let's move on. No need to drag this out


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                            • extremeskins04
                              That's top class!
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 3864

                              #8519
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              Issue a punishment and let's move on. No need to drag this out


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                              I wish it were that simple.

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                              • SPTO
                                binging
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 68046

                                #8520
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                I remember all the derision when people were falsely accusing the Jays of stealing signs but at least they did that from a more or less organic way rather than using electronic devices. I say the Red Sox need to be punished hard for this but i'm not quite sure what MLB can do. Nonetheless if i'm an opposing manager I will want the umpires to make sure they don't have any electronic devices in their dugout and whatnot.
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