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  • redsox4evur
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2013
    • 18169

    #6076
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by areobee401
    Mike Hazen has been hired as the new Dbacks executive vice president and general manager. Strong possibility Red Sox bench coach Torrey Lovullo follows as new manager.

    My gut says within 2 weeks Torrey is hired.


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    • WaitTilNextYear
      Go Cubs Go
      • Mar 2013
      • 16830

      #6077
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by areobee401
      Mike Hazen has been hired as the new Dbacks executive vice president and general manager. Strong possibility Red Sox bench coach Torrey Lovullo follows as new manager.
      Good move for the Snakes. No fanbase should have to suffer through La Russa/Stewart as their decision makers. Hazen at least has a pulse.
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      • SPTO
        binging
        • Feb 2003
        • 68046

        #6078
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by redsox4evur
        My gut says within 2 weeks Torrey is hired.


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        I can't wait to see your disdainful post when/if it becomes official.
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        • redsox4evur
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jul 2013
          • 18169

          #6079
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by SPTO
          I can't wait to see your disdainful post when/if it becomes official.

          He's not even one of my top 2 choices.


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          • Sportsforever
            NL MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 20368

            #6080
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by redsox4evur
            He's not even one of my top 2 choices.


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            Choices? Farrell isn't going anywhere...
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            • redsox4evur
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2013
              • 18169

              #6081
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Sportsforever
              Choices? Farrell isn't going anywhere...

              For now, he's not. If we start out slow he's as good as gone.


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              • WaitTilNextYear
                Go Cubs Go
                • Mar 2013
                • 16830

                #6082
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by AC
                Miller just had the third best xFIP- as far back as the stat goes. Wade Davis walks more guys a month than Miller did all year. I don't know how you have them in the same echelon.

                It's really just Miller up there. Then I suppose Britton/Betances/Jansen/Chapman, then probably Kimbrel/Diaz, and so on.
                It's almost like Wade Davis is chopped liver, then? lol

                This guy is on the mountain top with the rest of them. Take a look at his previous 3 years....

                2014: 1.00 ERA, 1.19 FIP, 13.63 K/9, 2.88 BB/9, 0 HR, 3.1 fWAR
                2015: 0.94 ERA, 2.29 FIP, 10.43 K/9, 2.67 BB/9, 0.40 HR/9, 2.0 fWAR
                2016: 1.87 ERA, 2.29 FIP, 9.76 K/9, 3.32 BB/9, 0 HR, 1.3 fWAR

                Don't know about anyone else, but I will take a reliever who has given up zero home runs in 2 of his previous 3 years and is averaging about 2.0 fWAR per year for my bullpen. He's been decent in the World Series too, btw.
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                • AC
                  Win the East
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 14951

                  #6083
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Sure, that's a strawman. My post stated that Andrew Miller is discernibly better than Wade Davis, in response to you saying they're similar. No matter how much of that information of that is bolded, none of it really speaks to that point.

                  Miller's worst xFIP- over the last 3 years is the same as Davis' best. There's about 0.1 point keeping that true of their SIERAs, too.

                  Davis is probably more in line with Kimbrel or Diaz, or at the top of the next tier of guys.
                  Last edited by AC; 10-16-2016, 08:03 PM.
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                  • WaitTilNextYear
                    Go Cubs Go
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 16830

                    #6084
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    I get that you'd rather use xFIP to make your point because Davis doesn't give up HRs, but c'mon. Both are elite relievers. I would take either one.
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                    • Master Live 013
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 12327

                      #6085
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Relievers, last 3 years (minimum 120 IP):

                      By WAR:




                      By FIP:




                      By xFIP:




                      By SIERA:




                      By WHIP:




                      By KK%-BB%:

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                      • Speedy
                        #Ace
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 16143

                        #6086
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        What is SIERA?
                        Originally posted by Gibson88
                        Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                        It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                        • WaitTilNextYear
                          Go Cubs Go
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16830

                          #6087
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          With all those categories, why not add in ERA, LOB%, and HR/9 ?
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                          • Master Live 013
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 12327

                            #6088
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            If I had to rank them I would go:

                            1. Miller
                            2. Chapman
                            3. Betances
                            4. Jansen
                            5. Britton
                            6. Davis
                            Last edited by Master Live 013; 10-16-2016, 09:12 PM.
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                            • Master Live 013
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 12327

                              #6089
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Speedy
                              What is SIERA?
                              http://www.fangraphs.com/library/pitching/siera/
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                              • TripleCrown9
                                Keep the Faith
                                • May 2010
                                • 23663

                                #6090
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                My least favorite thing about baseball is the ridiculous amount of advanced stats.
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