2024-2025 Hot Stove Thread

[IndianSummer]

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Meanwhile in Dallas and Arlington

Well…..looks like Jake Burger is headed to the Rangers. Finally some resemblance of life.

[DamnYanks2]

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Yankees better not include Gil for a a rental of Kyle Tucker.

[MiracleMet718]

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One of those teams is not like the others. He must be from the Anaheim area

He’s from Newport Beach so it’s close to home. Also the Angels might be the only team on that list that could be interested in him. I don’t see any of the contenders looking to add an aging third baseman that’s trending down the last few seasons and doesn’t have the inflated power numbers of Coors Field anymore.

[CBoller1331]

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Devin Williams to the Yanks

Nestor + Caleb Durbin going back to the Brewers

[CBoller1331]

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Let's goooo!

Cubs getting Kyle Tucker from the Astros.

Isaac Paredes, Cam Smith (2024 1st rounder) & Hayden Wesneski heading back to Houston

[Picci]

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Interesting debate for Astros fans.

Jim Bowden said on MLB Network Radio this morning that the Phillies offered the Astros Nick Castellanos & Alec Bohm for Kyle Tucker.

The Astros declined.

https://x.com/MLBDeadlineNews/status/1867597810398638366

[CBoller1331]

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Interesting debate for Astros fans.

"Here please take these two players that we don't really want and have been trying to get rid of for years in exchange for your best hitter"

[DamnYanks2]

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Devin Williams is a great pickup. Let's keep it pushing.

[countryboy]

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Seems everyone in the NL Central is trying to get better except for the cardinals


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[roadman]

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Devin Williams to the Yanks

Nestor + Caleb Durbin going back to the Brewers

Good trade for both teams.

[Bard]

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Jeffrey Springs + to Sacramento

Joe Boyle +++ to Steinbrenner Field


A's and Rays trade!

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[The Kid 24]

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Ok, so why again did Soto get $765 million? Kyle Tucker is a all around better player and he won't come close to getting what Soto did.

Tucker is GG defender and steals bases as well.

[Armor and Sword]

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Ok, so why again did Soto get $765 million? Kyle Tucker is a all around better player and he won't come close to getting what Soto did.

Tucker is GG defender and steals bases as well.

Like I said....get ready for Soto to regress from his 2024 numbers. Just wait.

Is he worth 35MM a year? Yes he is. This making more than Ohtani is IMO outrageous and I think as a lifelong Yankee fan I am not crying about it at all. They were gonna pay him that too.......and he simply did not want to share the stage with Judge the rest of his career.

That's what I feel.

He did not want to be a Yankee for life. Or try to become another potential Yankees legend. It simply was not important to him.

Judge was offered more money to leave the Bronx....but he knew in his heart he was a Yankee for life.

I can't wait till Soto plays in Yankee stadium for the first time as a Met. That will be a rain of boos like no other in my opinion.

Love the Max Fried and Devin Williams pick ups. Keep chugging here. More work to do.

[The Kid 24]

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Like I said....get ready for Soto to regress from his 2024 numbers. Just wait.

Is he worth 35MM a year? Yes he is. This making more than Ohtani is IMO outrageous and I think as a lifelong Yankee fan I am not crying about it at all. They were gonna pay him that too.......and he simply did not want to share the stage with Judge the rest of his career.

That's what I feel.

He did not want to be a Yankee for life. Or try to become another potential Yankees legend. It simply was not important to him.

Judge was offered more money to leave the Bronx....but he knew in his heart he was a Yankee for life.

I can't wait till Soto plays in Yankee stadium for the first time as a Met. That will be a rain of boos like no other in my opinion.

Love the Max Fried and Devin Williams pick ups. Keep chugging here. More work to do.

Totally agree, he's worth $35 mil a year.... But no way is he worth more than Ohtani.

[CBoller1331]

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Ok, so why again did Soto get $765 million? Kyle Tucker is a all around better player and he won't come close to getting what Soto did.

Tucker is GG defender and steals bases as well.

Short answer: Age and leverage.

Tucker will hit FA 2 years older than what Soto is. There's $100M you can take off a comparable Tucker deal to start with. Having 2 additional prime years of an elite hitter adds a TON of value to the contract.

In a weird way Soto's subpar defense/baserunning doesn't really affect his future forecast much since he doesn't depend on those skills - which are usually some of the first to go once age starts to become a factor - to produce value. He projects to be a pretty similar player at age 34-35 to what he is now. Especially since his best offensive skill is his elite (arguably even Bonds level) plate discipline - which doesn't really regress much as you age. (One way to think of it: If Juan Soto is already as valuable as Kyle Tucker without any defensive/baserunning value, then he will be more valuable than Tucker later in their careers once as Tucker loses thise parts of his game)

Throw in the fact that one of the suitors has the most aggressive owner in baseball who won't be outbid and wants to steal him away from their cross-town rival - who also happens to be one of the richest organizations in pro-sports, and you have a recipe for a record setting deal.

I don't know how to quantify it, but I think you can take another $100M off easily if the Cohen-led Mets werent involved. His aggressiveness really pushed the market to a level only he was comfortable to reach (obviously the Yankees ended up close, but it seems like they were reluctant to go up to $700M)