The Official 2006 Pittsburgh Pirates Thread

[Karlos05]

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I'm sure Pujols is the leading visitor. I can't recall another visiting player having more.

Jason Bay is probably the all time leader. I suspect Craig Wilson is high as well. I'd have to do some searching to find the actual leaders though. A quick google search didn't come up with much.

Pujols is the leading visitor.

The all-time leader is a tie between Craig and Brian Giles

[LetsGoPitt]

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Wow...not only did we put up a major ***-whooping on the Cards, but Perez actually pitched decently. That makes three quality starts in four games. Maybe some of these young pitchers are figuring things out?

[BigRed]

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Pujols is the leading visitor.

The all-time leader is a tie between Craig and Brian Giles

How many do they have?

[Karlos05]

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How many do they have?

44

[mjb2124]

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As great as Pujols is, there's no chance he'll hit more HR's than a guy who's home park is PNC. His opportunities are too few - even though he does capitalize on them quite often.

I forgot about Giles.

I'm sure Bay will pass both Giles and Craig Wilson when he's done. That is unless they actually sign Craig this offseason. I just don't see that happening.

[LetsGoBucs]

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As great as Pujols is, there's no chance he'll hit more HR's than a guy who's home park is PNC. His opportunities are too few - even though he does capitalize on them quite often.

I forgot about Giles.

I'm sure Bay will pass both Giles and Craig Wilson when he's done. That is unless they actually sign Craig this offseason. I just don't see that happening.

That's if Craig Wilson actually makes it to the end of the season with the Bucs. My guess is that he's traded during the season. And yes, I'm sure Bay will pass them as well. At least he' locked up for the next 4 years...

[mjb2124]

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That's if Craig Wilson actually makes it to the end of the season with the Bucs. My guess is that he's traded during the season. And yes, I'm sure Bay will pass them as well. At least he' locked up for the next 4 years...

I'd have no problem if they did trade Craig......as long as it's for something reasonable. I see little to no chance the Pirates can afford him at the end of the year or that Craig would be willing to come back.

Knowing the Pirates, they'll hold onto him in the hopes they can sign him. Craig will sign elsewhere and the Pirates will get nothing in return.

[LetsGoBucs]

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I'd have no problem if they did trade Craig......as long as it's for something reasonable. I see little to no chance the Pirates can afford him at the end of the year or that Craig would be willing to come back.

Knowing the Pirates, they'll hold onto him in the hopes they can sign him. Craig will sign elsewhere and the Pirates will get nothing in return.

If he keeps hitting the way he has so far, I'm sure some team come the trade deadline will make a pretty good offer for him. The Pirates aren't in the financial hole now that they were in when they dealt Aramis, so I think they'll get something in return for him.

I'm still disappointed that Wilson never really got a great opportunity in Pittsburgh. They've always come up with reasons not to play him everyday. He's a good player that would fit well in the 5/6 hole in the lineup. Especially if they could get that one big power bat in the 4 hole.

[mjb2124]

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Craig's always been a streaky player. I think that's the main reason the Pirates have been tentative in declaring him a starter. He's also had some bad luck. Great year in 2004 and was going to play everyday in 2005 before he suffered his year of injuries. Then the signing of Burnitz - possibly done because concerns over the health of Craig's wrist?

I think the type of hitter that Craig is, really dictates that he's going to be inconsistent at times. However, if he hits 30+ HR's and keeps his OBP up, what's the problem? My only issue is when he completely dissapears at times during the year. I can understand being inconsistent, but when he dissapears, he really dissapears. In 2004 I think he went 2-3 months without a HR?

With that said, if he hits 29 HR's and completely dissapears for 2-3 months, I'd take it over much of what we do have in the lineup.

[LetsGoBucs]

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Craig's always been a streaky player. I think that's the main reason the Pirates have been tentative in declaring him a starter. He's also had some bad luck. Great year in 2004 and was going to play everyday in 2005 before he suffered his year of injuries. Then the signing of Burnitz - possibly done because concerns over the health of Craig's wrist?

I think the type of hitter that Craig is, really dictates that he's going to be inconsistent at times. However, if he hits 30+ HR's and keeps his OBP up, what's the problem? My only issue is when he completely dissapears at times during the year. I can understand being inconsistent, but when he dissapears, he really dissapears. In 2004 I think he went 2-3 months without a HR?

With that said, if he hits 29 HR's and completely dissapears for 2-3 months, I'd take it over much of what we do have in the lineup.

What's funny is that they signed Burnitz, probably one of the most streaky players in the league to replace him!

I agree about some of the bad luck he's had. It was a shame with the wrist injury.

They're being no hit right now in the 5th by Carpenter. Big difference from yesterday...

[mjb2124]

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Carpenter is filthy. STL 4-0 in the end as Carpenter goes 8, giving up 2 hits.

Santos actually pitched VERY well against a good hitting club. He only gave up 2 hits through 6 IP with 4 K's and 1 BB. Unfortunately those 2 hits were both solo HR's.

I agree about Burnitz being streaky. That signing has puzzled me since day 1. I guess they really think he'll take more advantage of the short porch in RF. PNC is a tough place to hit HR's for a RH hitter, but it didn't seem to hurt Craig in 2004.

[mjb2124]

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Buc's losing 3-1 to HOU tonight.

-Ronny Paulino is one big dude. I wouldn't want to try to run him over at the plate!

-Tracy's expression on the bench after the Lane HR tonight was priceless. It was one of those "What did I get myself into" looks.

-If we didn't already know, this team sucks. Just makes me feel better to say it again.

[LetsGoBucs]

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Buc's losing 3-1 to HOU tonight.

-Ronny Paulino is one big dude. I wouldn't want to try to run him over at the plate!

-Tracy's expression on the bench after the Lane HR tonight was priceless. It was one of those "What did I get myself into" looks.

-If we didn't already know, this team sucks. Just makes me feel better to say it again.

It's been so disappointing. I was in and out watching the game, so I didn't get to see much. I really felt like they would finish .500 this year (call it blind optimism), but when they started out 1-6 before they even played a home game, I felt like I had been kicked in the stomach...

There's still time to turn it around, but I'm not holding my breath...

[LetsGoBucs]

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Another rough one tonight. Shutout.....

When does Steelers camp start????

[mjb2124]

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Buchholz looked very good. He might torment this team for years to come.

Snell looked decent tonight. He just got 0 offense.

Typical. The Pirates always find new ways to lose.