2007 Cincinnati Reds

[PhantomPain]

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yeah, heck of a weekend for the kid that had played all of 15 games, against no higher than Double A pitching, the last 4 years. I don't know, there is something very special about this kid that I think as much as he has done now, it is only the tip of the iceberg.

On a side note, anyone see Griffey interviewed before yesterday's game? I forget who was interviewing him but he asked Griff if he ever thought to himself that HE should be the one chasing Aaron's record had it not been for all the injuries and Griff basically said, "it might still happen". Now we all know Jr's history lately with injuries, but of all the interviews I have seen from him, he rarely ever acknowledges his power numbers and the Aaron record. The fact that he said that to me has me excited as I still think that if he can stay healthy he has the talent to play into his 40's and that means he just might have a shot at Aaron/Bond's record. And nothing would make me happier than to see Bonds not hold the record for more than a few years.

Either way, good weekend for the Reds. Harang and Arroyo winning games, Griffey hitting awesome and Hamilton showing all 5 tools he has.

[jake44np]

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yeah, heck of a weekend for the kid that had played all of 15 games, against no higher than Double A pitching, the last 4 years. I don't know, there is something very special about this kid that I think as much as he has done now, it is only the tip of the iceberg.

On a side note, anyone see Griffey interviewed before yesterday's game? I forget who was interviewing him but he asked Griff if he ever thought to himself that HE should be the one chasing Aaron's record had it not been for all the injuries and Griff basically said, "it might still happen". Now we all know Jr's history lately with injuries, but of all the interviews I have seen from him, he rarely ever acknowledges his power numbers and the Aaron record. The fact that he said that to me has me excited as I still think that if he can stay healthy he has the talent to play into his 40's and that means he just might have a shot at Aaron/Bond's record. And nothing would make me happier than to see Bonds not hold the record for more than a few years.

Either way, good weekend for the Reds. Harang and Arroyo winning games, Griffey hitting awesome and Hamilton showing all 5 tools he has.

Even if Griff keeps playing ARod will pass Bonds before Griff does. ARod is only like 80 hrs behind Griff. Griff would have to hit about 40 HRS a year for the next 6 years to catch Bonds, not gonna happen.

[SlimKibbles]

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Nice job by the bullpen again. What is up with Stanton lately? By the way, along with Hamilton, Gonzalez has been a beast this season.

By the way, Oswalt sucks! 19-1 against the Reds!

[jake44np]

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Nice job by the bullpen again. What is up with Stanton lately? By the way, along with Hamilton, Gonzalez has been a beast this season.

By the way, Oswalt sucks! 19-1 against the Reds!

Stanton is old and washed up that is up with him.
I cant believe they signed him for 2 years and 7 million, oh and great move to extend Coffey's contract!
To me Kriskey is great at signing and trading for position players but besides Arroyo he has sucked at signing and trading for pitchers.

[PhantomPain]

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I turned on the Reds just now and what do I see? Something that is so amazing that it is worthy of mentioning...Milton already gives up 3 runs in the first 2 innings. One thing no one can take away from Milton is that he is consistent. As I am typing he is getting knocked around again in the 3rd with 2 on 2 out and another run in.

Seriously, at what possible point do the Red's management decide to cut their losses. I know we have been over this before on this forum, but it amazes me that everytime he goes out there, he sucks. Maybe they want him to have 20 consecutive bad outings before they do something. Sucks the pay him so much to stink up the field.

[sportsdude]

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I turned on the Reds just now and what do I see? Something that is so amazing that it is worthy of mentioning...Milton already gives up 3 runs in the first 2 innings. One thing no one can take away from Milton is that he is consistent. As I am typing he is getting knocked around again in the 3rd with 2 on 2 out and another run in.

Seriously, at what possible point do the Red's management decide to cut their losses. I know we have been over this before on this forum, but it amazes me that everytime he goes out there, he sucks. Maybe they want him to have 20 consecutive bad outings before they do something. Sucks the pay him so much to stink up the field.

The problem is, if we cut Milton, who replaces him? The Reds are thin on pitching and bringing up Homer Bailey before he's fully ready (I hear his breaking ball still needs work) could turn into a disaster. I agree Milton needs to go, but the time just might not be right.

In other Reds pitcher news, the team released RP Rheal Cormier.

[ESPNdeportes]

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The problem is, if we cut Milton, who replaces him? The Reds are thin on pitching and bringing up Homer Bailey before he's fully ready (I hear his breaking ball still needs work) could turn into a disaster. I agree Milton needs to go, but the time just might not be right.

In other Reds pitcher news, the team released RP Rheal Cormier.

Unless he's injured, couldn't the Reds call up Livingston? I thought he did well in the spring.

The thing with Milton is that he has no "out" pitch that he can go to. Hitters can foul off 2 strike pitches from him as they please and wait for their pitch. Throw in the fact he consistently hangs his breaking balls and misses with his fastball and its usually not pretty.

[ESPNdeportes]

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Ugh. Reds are sitting at 14-20 now. Belisle pitched well tonight, but Edwin had 3 errors!!!

Also, Uncle Milty is going on the DL for 7-10 days. Marty Brenneman on 700 WLW said Livingston could be a likely replacement, or Phil Dumatrait (who, by the way, has nearly outpitched Homer Bailey in AAA so far this year). Bailey is a longshot he says.

[slickdtc]

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It's frustrating that our starting rotation has pitched so well but our bullpen blows it. Last night it was the defense that couldn't hold. It seems like if it isn't one thing, it's another. If we could put it all together, we'd be a pretty good ballclub.

We can't bury ourselves early in the season. We've got to stay around .500 and then hope to make a run later in the season.

[ESPNdeportes]

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Encarnacion is being sent down to AAA. Reds have called up Louisville IF Jeff Keppinger.

This is a good move, IMO. And its not just about his 3 errors last night. It's about his lack of consistency and horrible, horrible vision at the plate.

[sportsdude]

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Edwin will bounce back. He just needs some time.

As for Dumatrait, he hasn't just been good in AAA this season, he's been lights out.

Dumatrait's stats.

5-1, 1.99 ERA
40.2 innings pitched
33 hits
14 runs/9 earned
18 BB/25 K
OPP BA: .217

The K/BB ratio is not exactly what I would like to see from a young pitcher but the rest of the numbers are hard to argue with.

[Jackdog]

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10.5 games out of first and it's only May 13. God our boys suck. How long will Narron keep his job?

[SlimKibbles]

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10.5 games out of first and it's only May 13. God our boys suck. How long will Narron keep his job?

I'm not sure. One of the reasons Hamilton is with the Reds is because of Narron's recommendation. Is there some father/son type of relationship the two have that has been talked about? That being said, if they were to can Narron, how much would it affect Hamilton? If the answer is, "Not at all," I say give him until the end of the month. The other thing is, and I'm not sure if it is really a big factor or not, but what about the bullpen coach? I like Tom Hume, but what role does he play in the success/failure of the Reds bullpen? Do we bring in one of the Nasty Boys (Charlton or Myers, not Brian Knobbs from wrestling) to get those guys fired up? I don't know what the answers are. They suck right now though.

[PhantomPain]

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I'm not sure. One of the reasons Hamilton is with the Reds is because of Narron's recommendation. Is there some father/son type of relationship the two have that has been talked about? That being said, if they were to can Narron, how much would it affect Hamilton? If the answer is, "Not at all," I say give him until the end of the month. The other thing is, and I'm not sure if it is really a big factor or not, but what about the bullpen coach? I like Tom Hume, but what role does he play in the success/failure of the Reds bullpen? Do we bring in one of the Nasty Boys (Charlton or Myers, not Brian Knobbs from wrestling) to get those guys fired up? I don't know what the answers are. They suck right now though.

Narron's brother, who is also now employed by the Reds for video I believe, used to coach Hamilton as a youngster. Hamilton and his son played baseball and I believe basketball together. That is how Narron knows Hamilton so well. At least I think that is how it all panned out, if anyone knows differently please correct me.

With that said, something will have to be done soon. But how many managers have the Reds had in the past 10 years? I don't have a clue but it seems like a lot. I think I am going to stop rooting for this team this year and just root for individual players. I want Hamilton, Griffey and Dunn to have outstanding years and I will just root for that now. I just can't take the constant losing and blowing of leads. Don't get me wrong, I WANT to Reds as a team to succeed, but there doesn't seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel and it is ever so frustrating.

Earlier there was a thread about "surprise" teams this year. I picked the Reds, before the season started, thinking they would build off of last year. Well I was wrong. They have not built upon anything from last year. Although they definitely are the "suprise" team for me as they suck much worse than I thought they would. I am ready for College Basketball again (Go UK)!

[jake44np]

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I dont get why we are talking about firing Narron??!!? How is it his fault that the bullpen can not hold a lead? He is pitching the guys Kriskey has put on the team. Narron did not sign Stanton or extend Coffey Kriskey did. Also is it Narrons fault that Edwin can not field a grounder or that they did not hit with runners on? Again he is playing the cards dealt to him and his cards suck.

By the way Hamilton has really cooled off, have pitchers figured him out?
And man is Griff on fire!!!