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  • jake44np
    Post Like a Champion!
    • Jul 2002
    • 9563

    #331
    Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

    Originally posted by Motown
    Reds win...Also, Votto was fully dressed sittin' in the dugout
    maybe his return is SOON
    After the game Dusty said Votto is going to be going on a rehab assignment soon!
    He said is wants to send him to the minors for a few games to get his timing back.
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    • HustlinOwl
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      • Mar 2004
      • 9713

      #332
      Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

      Votto left today for a rehab assignment and EE is still a couple days away. Once again Taveras starts in CF tonight.

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      • HustlinOwl
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        • Mar 2004
        • 9713

        #333
        Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

        Rhodes, Weathers and Cordero early season MVP's for the Reds

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        • Motown
          OS Brew Connoisseur
          • Jul 2002
          • 9169

          #334
          Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

          Originally posted by HustlinOwl
          Rhodes, Weathers and Cordero early season MVP's for the Reds
          I can't BELIEVE we won that damn game w/ 4 HITS

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          • Motown
            OS Brew Connoisseur
            • Jul 2002
            • 9169

            #335
            Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

            Originally posted by HustlinOwl
            Votto left today for a rehab assignment and EE is still a couple days away. Once again Taveras starts in CF tonight.
            Sarasota Reds (A) schedule has them off Friday, Saturday and Sunday for the all-star game. not sure whats up there. maybe just some R&R in the Fla. sun???
            *shrugs*

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            • Jackdog
              Wolverine Soldier
              • Aug 2002
              • 7719

              #336
              Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

              The Reds "Dynamic Duo". They were 0-9 and struck out three times today.

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              • duke776
                MVP
                • Nov 2006
                • 3044

                #337
                Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                Originally posted by Jackdog
                The Reds "Dynamic Duo". They were 0-9 and struck out three times today.




                The thing is, I'm not sure why we signed Willy Taveras to a 2 year contract. I can see a one year deal and the reds hoping he could revert to 2007 form(but he only played 97 games that season), but we have Stubbs, who seems to be a better version of him, waiting at AAA. I know prospects aren't sure deals, but the 2 years wasn't really smart IMO.

                Lets hope he gets it together though, because we all know he'll be run out there almost every day.

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                • HustlinOwl
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                  • Mar 2004
                  • 9713

                  #338
                  Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                  Votto's in Toronto with the team and more than likely will be in the lineup tomorrow.

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                  • Motown
                    OS Brew Connoisseur
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9169

                    #339
                    Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                    Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                    Votto's in Toronto with the team and more than likely will be in the lineup tomorrow.
                    this is GREAT news HO

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                    • SlimKibbles
                      Supporter
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 7276

                      #340
                      Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                      Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                      Votto's in Toronto with the team and more than likely will be in the lineup tomorrow.
                      This series was an obvious choice for him to come back from the DL. Glad he's back. Now let's win this series from the Jays!
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                      • SlimKibbles
                        Supporter
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 7276

                        #341
                        Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                        By the way, just read Votto's exlpanation of what was going on with him.



                        Kudos to him for being honest with everyone, but I don't think he owed anyone an explanation, even if I was one of the fans who was curious to know. Some of the speculation people were throwing out there were a tad ridiculous.
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                        • Jackdog
                          Wolverine Soldier
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 7719

                          #342
                          Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                          Great to see Votto back in the line-up!!

                          Now the negatives. I read this and have to agree.

                          –Let’s keep beating on the dead horse, even though it’s evident that Dusty Baker has his head in the sand. Yeah, Willy Taveras sucks and he can’t hit (another hitless night; .220/.269/.273 for a 543 OPS). Everyone can see it except the manager…but that isn’t even what irritates me the most.

                          It’s the lack of effort that is killing me, though. The guy isn’t even trying. Tonight, Toronto’s Aaron Hill tagged up from first base (!) and advanced to second on a fly ball to straightaway center field. He was able to do that because Taveras is lazy. Wee Willy just ambled back to get the ball, didn’t get behind/under it in order to make a quick, strong throw back to the infield. No, he just went back casually and allowed the runner to advance.

                          Unacceptable, and I simply cannot believe that Dusty allows this sort of nonsense on his ballclub. At least Corey Patterson tried his best every single day. Willy Taveras is completely useless. Period.

                          –Jerry Hairston, Jr., on the other hand, is trying as hard as he can, but a shortstop he ain’t. JHJ misplayed no fewer than three balls at short that should have been converted into outs (at a minimum, two of them should have been). Somehow, he was only credited with one error (his ninth on the year).

                          But this is another example of Dusty Baker putting a player into a position where he is not likely to succeed (see Patterson, Corey and Taveras, Wee Willy). JHJ is not a shortstop. He hits like a shortstop (which is to say, he can’t hit), but he can’t handle the position defensively. Why put him in a place where he’s set up to fail? Is that what being a “player’s manager” is all about?

                          This team doesn't have the luxury to keep sending out unproductive players. I'm trying to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt here,but after the Patterson Project last year and now Taveras,I starting to wonder if he's the manager I hoped he was. Hill taking 2nd on a fly bll to Taveras was inexcusable. He should have been pulled for that weak effort. Wake up Dusty! The season is slipping away.
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                          • jake44np
                            Post Like a Champion!
                            • Jul 2002
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                            #343
                            Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                            Originally posted by Jackdog
                            Great to see Votto back in the line-up!!

                            Now the negatives. I read this and have to agree.




                            This team doesn't have the luxury to keep sending out unproductive players. I'm trying to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt here,but after the Patterson Project last year and now Taveras,I starting to wonder if he's the manager I hoped he was. Hill taking 2nd on a fly bll to Taveras was inexcusable. He should have been pulled for that weak effort. Wake up Dusty! The season is slipping away.
                            Who wrote the article above?
                            Hariston cant hit??
                            That is news to me, the guy had a great year last year!
                            Last edited by jake44np; 06-24-2009, 10:14 AM.
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                            • Jackdog
                              Wolverine Soldier
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 7719

                              #344
                              Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds

                              Originally posted by jake44np
                              Who wrote the article above?
                              Hariston cant hit??
                              That is news to me, the guy had a great year last year!
                              Hey Jake! Here ya go.

                              Time for a recap of tonight’s titanic struggle…. FINAL Cincinnati 5 Toronto 7 WP: Tallet (5-4) LP: Owings (4-8) S: Frasor (2) BOX SCORE POSITIVES –Joey Votto returned. That’s a huge positive. NEGATIVES –Everything else. The Reds are now below .500, and 14-21 since May 14. It’s the first time the Reds have been under […]


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                              • HustlinOwl
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 9713

                                #345
                                Re: 2009 Cincinnati Reds



                                With Fay starting to chime in on Taveras the Reds are going to have to do something. They are better off right now with Dickerson and Stubbs platooning their CF, instead of this POS.

                                On the Willy Taveras deal: I think they've got to do something radical, like send him to the minors for a week or two. It's not that he's not getting hits; he seldom has a decent at-bat. It's hard to come out of a slump like his in the big leagues.

                                But I don't think the Reds will go that route.

                                I would expect Chris Dickerson (9-for-his-last-12) to be in the leadoff spot tomorrow with a right-hander on the mound.

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