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  • thefakeJTS
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    • Nov 2012
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    #61
    Originally posted by DonkeyJote
    Watching MLB Network's top 10 Right Fielders was interesting, especially since they were considering Upton as a RF'er. The "Shredder" had Justin Upton at #5 and Heyward at #3. John Hart went with Upton at #3 over Heyward. Bill James didn't have Upton in his 10, but Heyward was his #1 RF in baseball. Eric Byrnes had Upton #3, Heyward #6.

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    • War34Eagle
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      • Mar 2012
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      #62
      Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

      What do you guys think about ESPN's article about the best OFs? They had...
      1) Angels
      2) Braves
      3) Rangers
      4) Nats
      5) A's

      Hard to argue when the Angels have Trout, Hamilton, Borjous, and even trumbo....

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      • bichettehappens
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        • Jun 2010
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        #63
        Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

        So many strikeouts in this lineup. Wow.

        Is there an MLB version of NFL Game Rewind, with condensed versions of games? If there is, I may start following the Braves again just to check out this outfield. Lost interest in baseball a few years ago, but if I'm able to get through a game in a fraction of the time via something like that it may renew my interest somewhat.
        Last edited by bichettehappens; 01-27-2013, 01:58 PM.

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        • DonkeyJote
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          • Jul 2003
          • 9189

          #64
          Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

          Originally posted by War34Eagle
          What do you guys think about ESPN's article about the best OFs? They had...
          1) Angels
          2) Braves
          3) Rangers
          4) Nats
          5) A's

          Hard to argue when the Angels have Trout, Hamilton, Borjous, and even trumbo....
          I agree with #1 and #2. But how are the Rangers #3? Cruz (.260/.319/.460), Martin (.174/.235/.370), and Murphy (.304/.380/.479) is the 3rd best OF in baseball? And where are the Dodgers?

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          • Baseballking888
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            • Sep 2009
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            #65
            Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

            Thought this was pretty funny.

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            • War34Eagle
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              • Mar 2012
              • 264

              #66
              Originally posted by DonkeyJote
              I agree with #1 and #2. But how are the Rangers #3? Cruz (.260/.319/.460), Martin (.174/.235/.370), and Murphy (.304/.380/.479) is the 3rd best OF in baseball? And where are the Dodgers?
              Oh wow, I apologize, that should have been cardinals not rangers. Not sure what I was thinking.
              And he has the dodgers just missing the list, he said health was a big reason

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              • thefakeJTS
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                • Nov 2012
                • 913

                #67
                I said that we need to take position players in the first few rounds before we traded away Ahmed, but we really really need to draft quite a few in the early rounds this draft. I'm disappointed Lipka hasn't panned out.
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                • Baseballking888
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                  • Sep 2009
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                  #68
                  Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                  Chipper will have his number retired on June 28th.

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                  • CKW11
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                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1540

                    #69
                    Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                    What's everyone's opinion on Gattis? Looks like he had a good game today offensively.

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                    • DonkeyJote
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 9189

                      #70
                      Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                      Originally posted by CKW11
                      What's everyone's opinion on Gattis? Looks like he had a good game today offensively.
                      From what I hear, he's not very good defensively. I doubt he'll ever be the starting catcher for the big club. And being that all three OF spots and 1B are tied up at least for the next three years, I don't see him breaking through there either. He didn't tear up AA last year, but he did okay.

                      But the dude is already 26 and that's his highest level to this point. For reference, he's 5 years older than Bethancourt. He's also older than Heyward, Justin Upton, Francisco, Simmons, and Freeman (63% of your starting lineup). I think he's either David Ross, a good offensive backup catcher, or he's a right handed bat off the bench if he can get more time in at 1B and the corner OF spots (which they started doing last year).

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                      • DonkeyJote
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #71
                        Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                        Btw, this is apparently (according to ESPN) the lineup Fredi has said he'd like to go with:

                        1. Simmons
                        2. Heyward
                        3. J. Upton
                        4. Freeman
                        5. BJ Upton
                        6. McCann
                        7. Uggla
                        8. Johnson/Francisco

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                        • thefakeJTS
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                          • Nov 2012
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                          #72
                          Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                          Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                          Btw, this is apparently (according to ESPN) the lineup Fredi has said he'd like to go with:

                          1. Simmons
                          2. Heyward
                          3. J. Upton
                          4. Freeman
                          5. BJ Upton
                          6. McCann
                          7. Uggla
                          8. Johnson/Francisco
                          I wish we could have Heyward batting 3rd, but there is no one else on the roster that fits the mold of a 2 hitter.
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                          • DonkeyJote
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                            #73
                            Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                            Originally posted by thefakeJTS
                            I wish we could have Heyward batting 3rd, but there is no one else on the roster that fits the mold of a 2 hitter.







                            I'm actually of the school of thought that the "traditional" batting order is antiquated. Statistically, your three best hitters should be your #2 hitter, your #4 hitter (this guy should have the most power of this group), and your leadoff hitter (high OBP). Then it's your #5 hitter, and then your #3 hitter. The #3 hitter shouldn't necessarily be one of your top guys. Statistically, if you assume McCann, Uggla, and the Uptons 2012 seasons were anomalies, and they'll rubberband back to their norms in 2013, the lineup should look something like this:

                            1. McCann
                            2. J. Upton
                            3. Uggla
                            4. Heyward
                            5. Freeman
                            6. B.J. Upton
                            7. Simmons
                            8. Francisco

                            Speed is actually more beneficial in the middle of the lineup than at the top, because the guys at the bottom of the lineup typically aren't going to have as much power, so the stolen base becomes more valuable, and a caught stealing becomes less harmful because it isn't happening with a big hitter at the plate.

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                            • LowerWolf
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                              #74
                              Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                              Originally posted by DonkeyJote

                              Speed is actually more beneficial in the middle of the lineup than at the top, because the guys at the bottom of the lineup typically aren't going to have as much power, so the stolen base becomes more valuable, and a caught stealing becomes less harmful because it isn't happening with a big hitter at the plate.
                              Never really thought of it that way, but that actually makes a lot of sense.

                              Would still seem really strange to have Mac leading off.

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                              • thefakeJTS
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                                • Nov 2012
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                                #75
                                Re: 2013 Atlanta Braves Thread

                                I think Uggla would be better at leadoff than anyone on the roster if Simmons doesn't hit well there. He strikes out a lot, but he does take tons of walks too.
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