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  • LowerWolf
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2006
    • 12270

    #721
    Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

    Originally posted by DonkeyJote
    You move either Markakis or Olivera. If you can't, Olivera plays 3b. Soler is the type of player you make room for.

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    I can't see anyone taking on Markakis' contract. I think I'd rather have Olivera at third anyway.

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    • DonkeyJote
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 9187

      #722
      Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

      I think we got an incredible haul. Miller and Speier for 3 player. Ender Inciarte went .303/.338/.408 last year. Not amazing, but he's supposed to be an elite defender at all 3 Outfield spots and is only 25. 5.3 WAR last year, higher than any Brave. Aaron Blair had been mentioned before, top 40 prospect, I've seen mid rotation guy on scouting reports.

      And then Swanson. Shortstop, 1st overall pick, hit .289/.394/.482 in low A. Mlb.com has him as the #10 overall. I've seen prototypical #2 hitter, 15 hr power, solid, and maybe even above average defense at Shortstop. Also, he went to high school in Marietta. I think we clearly won this trade. I'd rather have Swanson than Pollock, and then to get 2 other good players too is fantastic.

      Also signed Tyler Flowers for for 2 yr/$5.3m.

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      Last edited by DonkeyJote; 12-09-2015, 12:34 AM.

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      • LowerWolf
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2006
        • 12270

        #723
        Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

        We're going to be awful next year, but the future is trending upward after that. I'm pretty stoked with the haul we got for Miller.

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        • DonkeyJote
          All Star
          • Jul 2003
          • 9187

          #724
          Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

          Originally posted by LowerWolf
          We're going to be awful next year, but the future is trending upward after that. I'm pretty stoked with the haul we got for Miller.
          We're gonna be awful next year for sure, but I don't think this trade is to blame. I think Inciarte is an upgrade to the major league roster.

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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52920

            #725
            Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

            The team will win a World Series in 2017 though so it's all good.

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            • DonkeyJote
              All Star
              • Jul 2003
              • 9187

              #726
              Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

              Originally posted by TheMatrix31
              The team will win a World Series in 2017 though so it's all good.
              Dude, you can't possibly be upset by this trade, can you? Even ignoring the prospects, one of which gets occasional Derek Jeter comparisons, though that's probably a bit much, we got a CF that was as good or better than Miller in 2015. Unlike the Simmons trade, this trade may actually make us better in the short term. At worst, it's probably a wash.

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              • TheMatrix31
                RF
                • Jul 2002
                • 52920

                #727
                Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                I don't give a **** about the players.

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                • DonkeyJote
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 9187

                  #728
                  Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                  Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                  I don't give a **** about the players.
                  Soooo, you're just being negative to be negative?

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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52920

                    #729
                    Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                    Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                    Soooo, you're just being negative to be negative?

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                    Not really. I've made my feelings and reasoning abundantly clear.

                    Hope the Braves win the World Series in 2017.

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                    • KSUowls
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5891

                      #730
                      Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                      After the last couple trades that didn't really seem to fit the "plan" I'm very happy with this one. We got a young bat who hit 300 last, plays good defense, and stole 20 bases. Then 2 really good prospects to go along with it, I think this is a win even though I hate seeing miller go.

                      I do wonder what this means for males smith and Abies now though. Do they keep malex and go for a very speedy top of the lineup or try to package him? Do you move Swanson to 2nd and bring up Albies (when ready), or does one of them become expendable

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                      • redsox4evur
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 18169

                        #731
                        Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                        Originally posted by KSUowls
                        After the last couple trades that didn't really seem to fit the "plan" I'm very happy with this one. We got a young bat who hit 300 last, plays good defense, and stole 20 bases. Then 2 really good prospects to go along with it, I think this is a win even though I hate seeing miller go.

                        I do wonder what this means for males smith and Abies now though. Do they keep malex and go for a very speedy top of the lineup or try to package him? Do you move Swanson to 2nd and bring up Albies (when ready), or does one of them become expendable

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                        Yea Swanson probably isn't going to get moved for Albies. Albies will probably get moved.
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                        • decga
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 2469

                          #732
                          Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                          Originally posted by KSUowls
                          After the last couple trades that didn't really seem to fit the "plan" I'm very happy with this one. We got a young bat who hit 300 last, plays good defense, and stole 20 bases. Then 2 really good prospects to go along with it, I think this is a win even though I hate seeing miller go.

                          I do wonder what this means for males smith and Abies now though. Do they keep malex and go for a very speedy top of the lineup or try to package him? Do you move Swanson to 2nd and bring up Albies (when ready), or does one of them become expendable

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                          My Braves. Our Braves are full of ****. If you ask me. Ok we traded a Gold Glove SS with a contract because he couldn't hit. Ok... Albies is next in line. Swanson a kid from Marietta, Ga. Markakis from nearby Woodstock, Ga. They are trying to play to the fan base in Cobb County for the school night draws... Smart I guess. Hopefully Swanson can pulled off a Tulo type of a career, but we mind end up trading him if that happens.

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                          • LowerWolf
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 12270

                            #733
                            Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                            Swanson being from Marietta is a nice coincidence. He was the No. 1 overall pick in June. That's the important part.

                            He could flame out, but the odds are he'll be our SS for a long time.

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                            • decga
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 2469

                              #734
                              Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                              Originally posted by LowerWolf
                              Swanson being from Marietta is a nice coincidence. He was the No. 1 overall pick in June. That's the important part.

                              He could flame out, but the odds are he'll be our SS for a long time.
                              We'll see. I thought Andrellton Simmons was our SS for a long time.

                              On a side note! The Upper management are saying they are building this team around Freddie Freeman. Can #5. be our #10 of the past? Freddie can hit his butt off, but he doesn't strike any fear in anyone. Maybe in next couple of years they will develop hitters in front of him and behind him, so we can really appreciate him.

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                              • aukevin
                                War Eagle, Go Braves!
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 14700

                                #735
                                Re: 2015 Atlanta Braves

                                I'm happy with the Miller trade. I would like the Braves to actually hold onto MLB talent that is under control, like Miller and Simmons, but only having Miller for one year I didn't really get attached to him. At some point I want the Braves to stick with some good controlled players. Other than Freeman and Teheran there isn't anyone left of our Braves, so hopefully from this point forward we can start getting attached to new, seemingly long-term players, without worrying about losing them. That was my biggest issue in terms of fandom last year and going into this year, it's hard to cheer for a team full of short termers.

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