The Official New York Yankees Thread

**nemesis04** · 07-31-2019, 06:03 PM

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I am surprised we did not even land a reliever at least. This yankee rotation would not even scare a good AAA club. I can’t see them going far in the playoffs which is a shame because they are really fun to watch offensively.

**NYJets** · 07-31-2019, 07:20 PM

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Gotta pray Severino can come back and be good right away and maybe call up Garcia too and have him be good, both of them if not out of the rotation then out of the pen. And try to bullpen our way through games in the playoffs.

Astros are going to be really tough to beat though, if we get that far.

**Trapper700** · 08-01-2019, 01:22 AM

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The Cashman interview after the deadline is infuriating as a Yankees fan. He basically said that they didn't go after guys like Corbin in the offseason because if they had gone after him, they wouldn't have had any money to make any other additions that benefited the team this season (like DJ LeMahieu) because "it's all interrelated." He also said that they didn't want to pay the prospect price teams were asking for because they knew that their fallback was that they already have a good team. Get out of here with that stuff Cashman and the Steinbrenners.

Also Deivi has been absolute garbage in AAA. Gave up another 6ER and 2 homers today (5 total in 19 AAA innings).

**CMH** · 08-01-2019, 07:52 AM

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Far too early to worry about Garcia's performance in AAA. He's 20, I think. He's going to have to adjust. Part of the process.

I do think teams were trying to take advantage of the Yankees. In what world does Grienke go to Houston for the prospects they gave up? Surely, Arizona was going to demand the Yankees give up their best prospects while Houston hardly did that.

Look at the Stroman deal. He goes to the Mets for basically nothing and the Mets turn around demanding the Yankees send Garcia + Florial. Get real. That's absurd considering what he was just acquired for. And while I don't blame the Mets because you shouldn't change a player's value by the cost to acquire him, it shows more that teams were grabbing the Yankees by the neck because they knew the Yankees were desperate.

While it sucks, I'm not even mad. The same prospects that Cashman held onto and refused to trade are the All-Stars the team has now and are the reason the team is in the position it is in. I'm not going to blame Cashman for hoarding his prospects when it seems that every single one of the players he's held onto has turned into solid gold.

If he's not giving up Garcia, Florial or Frazier it's likely because Cashman knows they will be damn good.

**Trapper700** · 08-01-2019, 09:32 AM

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Originally posted by CMH

Far too early to worry about Garcia's performance in AAA. He's 20, I think. He's going to have to adjust. Part of the process.

I do think teams were trying to take advantage of the Yankees. In what world does Grienke go to Houston for the prospects they gave up? Surely, Arizona was going to demand the Yankees give up their best prospects while Houston hardly did that.

Look at the Stroman deal. He goes to the Mets for basically nothing and the Mets turn around demanding the Yankees send Garcia + Florial. Get real. That's absurd considering what he was just acquired for. And while I don't blame the Mets because you shouldn't change a player's value by the cost to acquire him, it shows more that teams were grabbing the Yankees by the neck because they knew the Yankees were desperate.

While it sucks, I'm not even mad. The same prospects that Cashman held onto and refused to trade are the All-Stars the team has now and are the reason the team is in the position it is in. I'm not going to blame Cashman for hoarding his prospects when it seems that every single one of the players he's held onto has turned into solid gold.

If he's not giving up Garcia, Florial or Frazier it's likely because Cashman knows they will be damn good.

Fair enough. I just think Deivi Garcia is extremely overrated and is just the most recent member of the Yankees prospect hype machine. I think they should have sold while his value is still high because I don't think he's ever going to be able to adjust to the new balls in AAA and MLB. Deivi is a 5’9” right handed pitcher who sits in the low 90s with his fastball and has over a 10% walk rate in the minors. Major leaguers aren’t going to continually chase his out of the zone offspeed pitches to bail him out like they did in Double A and below.

To put it in perspective, the number of successful starting pitchers 5’10” or shorter could be counted on one hand. There have only been 11 total right handers 5’10” or shorter who have a WAR over 10 (the majority of whom are relievers), with Sonny Gray as #6 all time (#3 all time among starters). How many other pitchers shorter than 5'10” have even started a game since 2000? (The answer is six - Marcus Stroman, Shane Komine, Michael Tejera, Arnie Munoz, Fabio Castro, Daniel Garibay). There's a much higher chance of Deivi becoming one of the other five than he is of even becoming a Marcus Stroman.

**CMH** · 08-01-2019, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Trapper700

Fair enough. I just think Deivi Garcia is extremely overrated and is just the most recent member of the Yankees prospect hype machine. I think they should have sold while his value is still high because I don't think he's ever going to be able to adjust to the new balls in AAA and MLB. Deivi is a 5’9” right handed pitcher who sits in the low 90s with his fastball and has over a 10% walk rate in the minors. Major leaguers aren’t going to continually chase his out of the zone offspeed pitches to bail him out like they did in Double A and below.

To put it in perspective, the number of successful starting pitchers 5’10” or shorter could be counted on one hand. There have only been 11 total right handers 5’10” or shorter who have a WAR over 10 (the majority of whom are relievers), with Sonny Gray as #6 all time (#3 all time among starters). How many other pitchers shorter than 5'10” have even started a game since 2000? (The answer is six - Marcus Stroman, Shane Komine, Michael Tejera, Arnie Munoz, Fabio Castro, Daniel Garibay). There's a much higher chance of Deivi becoming one of the other five than he is of even becoming a Marcus Stroman.

Won't argue this.

I think the bigger issue is teams wanted Garcia + more.

If it was Garcia and low-end prospects for Stroman or Ray then I think Cashman makes it happen.

But these teams wanted Frazier and/or Florial and German. I think some teams asked for Torres(!). It was ridiculous the demands that were reported, if true.

**CMH** · 08-04-2019, 06:53 PM

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Really happy to see the pitching staff doing a complete about-face in the past week after that nightmare week of pitching.

Pitching is obviously still a weakness but hopefully its performance is more like we've seen the past 7 games than the 7 before that.

**nemesis04** · 08-04-2019, 10:16 PM

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This team appears to be made out of glass. Very fragile!

**DamnYanks2** · 08-04-2019, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by nemesis04

This team appears to be made out of glass. Very fragile!

But I love how they pick each other up. One goes down the other contributes in his place. It's contagious.

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**nemesis04** · 08-05-2019, 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by DamnYanks2

But I love how they pick each other up. One goes down the other contributes in his place. It's contagious.

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They have done an excellent job of picking one another up. The rate of injuries recently is starting to exceed supply. We potentially could lose 3 players after 4 games. The parrot injury was unfortunate. Also, I am not sure I want to see 7 years of Hicks injuries either.

**DieHardYankee26** · 08-05-2019, 08:04 AM

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I felt like I'd been missing the 480 foot bombs, but didn't realize Judge hasn't pulled a homer all year until they mentioned it last night. Wonder what the reason behind that is.

**CMH** · 08-06-2019, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by DieHardYankee26

I felt like I'd been missing the 480 foot bombs, but didn't realize Judge hasn't pulled a homer all year until they mentioned it last night. Wonder what the reason behind that is.

I'm going to blame it on the injury and his timing being off.

He seems either really early on anything inside or really late. But he's strong enough that he took that inside pitch Sunday the other way. Somehow.

Then when he had a nice meat ball thrown to him, he jumped it too early and just lined a single.

**DamnYanks2** · 08-06-2019, 10:09 PM

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Torres had a core injury they let him play through it and he reinjured himself. Seriously who is running the medical staff.

Positives. Yankees keep slugging and is Tauchman actually good?

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**DieHardYankee26** · 08-07-2019, 07:26 AM

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Imagine how mad Clint Frazier has to be.

**DamnYanks2** · 08-07-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by DieHardYankee26

Imagine how mad Clint Frazier has to be.

And he has every right to be. I'd be royally pissed too. They've treated him like dirt.

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