***2005 Cubs Thread***

[glucklich]

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Well, I don't really blame Hendry for the outfield...the problem there was Sosa. The Cubs wanted to re-sign Alou last offseason, but they couldn't do it until Sosa was moved, because they couldn't afford them both. Alou ended up not wanting to wait that long, so he signed elsewhere and left a gaping hole in left. By the time Sosa was finally pawned off on Baltimore, there weren't any good free agent outfielders left. So, there's not much Hendry could've done, other than maybe trade Sosa sooner than he did.

Im not so sure they wanted to re-sign Alou anymore than they couldnt move Sosa until they did. In all honesty, if the Cubs really wanted Alou, nothing was standing in their way. They knew they were going to take a hit with Sosa and used that as an excuse not to pay money...they didnt want to take that hit for one year even though they probably paid a nice chunk of change to get what they wanted in terms of improvements/additions to the stadium all while ignoring maintenance expenses. Getting what they wanted for changing Wrigley was more important than anything you mentioned. If they are using Sosa as an excuse to not sign Alou, not only is it lame but its a lie.

[Jistic]

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Don't EVER think the Cubs can't afford any player. They can afford a payroll close to Yankee proportions. They will never spend that much, but they can more than afford it.

[bryan_05]

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Don't EVER think the Cubs can't afford any player. They can afford a payroll close to Yankee proportions. They will never spend that much, but they can more than afford it.

I just told someone that exact same thing on Friday!

go cubs

[glucklich]

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Here's a good article on how the Cubs really think of their fans...

LINK

Just to follow up. http://www.theheckler.com/index.php?...d84af97bb34a3a

[poster]

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I think Santo just had a heart attack. Carlos is a beast, great performance.

[Jistic]

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ONly a ****ing idiot would come up with this BS.

More Racism in Cubland

When this is the best you got, you got nothin'. Expecially talent, or journalistic integrity.

[poster]

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ONly a ****ing idiot would come up with this BS.

More Racism in Cubland

When this is the best you got, you got nothin'. Expecially talent, or journalistic integrity.

I LMAO when I read this last night. Scoop is nothing but a racist himself. I almost started a thread on this but didnt want to start anything. I am so sick of everybody saying he got them to within 5 outs of the World Series. They suddenly seem to forget his mismanagement of his pitching staff cost the Cubs that series. And CP does suck but Busty didnt do him any favors by jerking him around and now he is hitting .215 at Iowa What a manager. Go to LA you bum.

[bryan_05]

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Last I heard about CP is that he said Baker and Co. in Chicago never advised him to shorten his swing. Those clowns. People watching baseball for the first time know a loop d loop swing is doing much.

[TheLetterZ]

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That was an interesting finish...

[poster]

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What a ******* embaressment. How in the world can you lose like this. Micheal Barett is the biggest ***** in the MLB. My 9 year old little league team would have thrown Rollins out, only this garbage *** managed team allows this. Over 100 games into the season and we have 3, that right 3 damn pitchers forget to cover first base and it costs us the game and could have gotten our star 1B hurt.

It happens because this fat bum sits on his *** and doesnt hold these players accountable. They do what ever they want, because there is nothing going to be done. Weurtz throws strike 3 right down the middle before the embaressment and it gets called a ball and that bum just sits in the dugout pretending to be pissed. Go out there and do something and stand up for your team. Never does he go out and argue a call and when he does he walks out there like he died yesterday. By the time he gets there you forget what even happened. I can see why Scoop Jackson sticks up for this loser scumbag

[poster]

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That was an interesting finish...

Sadly it happens often. I would be laughing my *** off if I were a Philly fan watching this pathatic garbage.

[glucklich]

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What a ******* embaressment. How in the world can you lose like this. Micheal Barett is the biggest ***** in the MLB. My 9 year old little league team would have thrown Rollins out, only this garbage *** managed team allows this. Over 100 games into the season and we have 3, that right 3 damn pitchers forget to cover first base and it costs us the game and could have gotten our star 1B hurt.

It happens because this fat bum sits on his *** and doesnt hold these players accountable. They do what ever they want, because there is nothing going to be done. Weurtz throws strike 3 right down the middle before the embaressment and it gets called a ball and that bum just sits in the dugout pretending to be pissed. Go out there and do something and stand up for your team. Never does he go out and argue a call and when he does he walks out there like he died yesterday. By the time he gets there you forget what even happened. I can see why Scoop Jackson sticks up for this loser scumbag

The Cubs had a baseball game tonight? And btw, Scoop Jackson is a sensationalistic ******...he cant say something interesting without resorting making a feeble attempt to stir the pot.

[fugazi]

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WTF was that lineup today?

Did we really acquire Lawton to bat lead-off?
Why do we not feature Lee and ARam back-to-back every day?
Man, there were so many things this year that pointed to a good season, not the least of which was Lee's start...I hope he isn't exhausted for next year...but maybe I am wrong...

Despite whatever quality his throws this evening, Barrett doesn't need to be hitting in the 8 hole...It is a minor shift, but he should be at 6-7, with Neifi slapping hits to get the Pitcher up to the plate with 2 outs...

HERE, HOWEVER, IS THE REAL ISSUE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
IT does not matter what we say about the team if we speak of it as a living creature, i.e., that what happens, happened, and is happening on the field on a day-to-day basis is, somehow, by its being tinkered with, can change the outcome.

THE OUTCOME is the issue, in that this year's team was stillborn, if not aborted altogether. The OUTCOME was already set, predestined, if not having already ocurred before the season began.
The real team issues were not dealt with, outside of dealing Sosa, in the offseason. (and the world is irrational enough for me to consider that the Sosa move was not the best idea...) There has been ZERO management of this team NOW FOR TWO YEARS!!!!!!! Add to that the fact that NO ONE would take Kerry Wood now, well, not for anything worthwhile...

Our team dedicated itself to Corey Patterson generally sight unseen, while it gave up on Matt Clement....This team continues to believe that having in no sense a steady lineup is beneficial, while it continues to sit its 2d or 3d most consistent pitcher of the past two seasons in G. Rusch (He is no savior, but...)
This team continues to trot out the JV bullpen, while our minor league system is lauded for the pitching talent it has within it.

We rarely stick with or see developed players, however, whether Kelton or Pie; when they are available they are Dubois and Patterson (We should recall, however, Patterson's start two years ago before the injury that ended his season).

This is so very depressing...

[Jistic]

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Guys guys....relax. EVerything's ok now. Kerry Wood and Nomar are coming back this week. YEAH!!!! It's all coming together...

And if you disagree you are a racist!

[TheLetterZ]

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Sadly it happens often. I would be laughing my *** off if I were a Philly fan watching this pathatic garbage.

No, we remember Dempster 2 nights ago and LaTroy Hawkins from earlier in the year.