Official Boston Red Sox 2005 Thread

[Misfit]

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Two awful losses to the Twins after an 8 game winning streak. I'm just glad I wasn't home to watch either of them. Hopefully Wake can salvage a game here tomorrow, he's usually good in domes.

[APD0290]

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Cruz was DFA'd before the game tonight. Youks was called up. Looks like we traded Bono and Perez for nothing. I'm sure we could have traded them for the rights to Adam Stern instead of a 9 day rental of a worthless Jose Cruz Jr.

[Stu]

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Cruz was DFA'd before the game tonight. Youks was called up. Looks like we traded Bono and Perez for nothing. I'm sure we could have traded them for the rights to Adam Stern instead of a 9 day rental of a worthless Jose Cruz Jr.

I didn't think he'd last too long. I'm guessing Mueller is hurt. 2 days off in a row and now Youk is called up?

I think the Roberto Petagine experiment is pretty much over. He's just not a good fielder. Frankly, I'd rather have Millar at 1B which is pathetic. Olerud initially said he wouldn't need more than the 15 days on the DL so hopefully we'll see him back soon.

[APD0290]

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He hasn't played nearly enough to warrant the experiment over. He won gold gloves in Japan and put up Matsui-like numbers, and also ripped AAA pitching apart.

About Mueller, he's definately hurt. Between the thing he was wearing on his arm and all of the throwing errors he's had lately, I knew something was bothering him in his arm. I could see Pro going on the 15 day DL sometime this week.

[DuffysCliff]

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I didn't think he'd last too long. I'm guessing Mueller is hurt. 2 days off in a row and now Youk is called up?

I think the Roberto Petagine experiment is pretty much over. He's just not a good fielder. Frankly, I'd rather have Millar at 1B which is pathetic. Olerud initially said he wouldn't need more than the 15 days on the DL so hopefully we'll see him back soon.

Muller has something wrong with his back. I disagree about Roberto Petagine, he's a better hitter than Millar, and it's not like Millar is all that great with the glove either. Petagine won a Gold Glove in Japan, so while Gold Gloves don't mean a whole lot, he must be somewhat competent.

[Stu]

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Petagine won a Gold Glove in Japan, so while Gold Gloves don't mean a whole lot, he must be somewhat competent.

He certainly isn't playing like a gold glover. He's gone once Olerud is healthy. We simply don't have the roster space to carry 3 1B's.

[GBrushTWood]

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Cruz was DFA'd before the game tonight. Youks was called up. Looks like we traded Bono and Perez for nothing. I'm sure we could have traded them for the rights to Adam Stern instead of a 9 day rental of a worthless Jose Cruz Jr.

Actually, I think this speaks more to the status of Trot Nixon than anything else. If he was still in poor shape, I don't think they make this move. To me, this indicates that they expect him back within the original set timeframe. This is what I'm hoping, at least.

[DuffysCliff]

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He certainly isn't playing like a gold glover. He's gone once Olerud is healthy. We simply don't have the roster space to carry 3 1B's.

Well right now it's looking like Millar is our RF when we're up against a RHP while Petagine is at first. With a lefty, it's Kapler in right, with Millar at first. Nixon is still going to be on the DL when Olerud is back, so maybe the corresponding move is we put someone like Mueller on the DL, as we have Youkilis to fill in for him. I really think that Petagine is our best first base option.

[Misfit]

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How about Tony Graffanino?! Looks like Bellhorn will be spending the rest of the season flailing at Triple A pitching.

I'd prefer to see Kapler on the bench and Petagine at first for at least the majority of the homestand. If Petagine doesn't get it going at the plate, then put Millar back in at first. Millar is just such a terrible right fielder its going to cost them some games if they keep sending him out there.

[ILLCHILL]

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No way about Petagine. This guy has not proved he can hit in the majors and still hasnt shown his gold-glove caliber first base.
Even if he has the good glove eventually, I dont see it being better than Olerud, and Olerud was heating up when he got hurt too.

But how about the important stuff. I am starting a Tony Graffinino for President campaign . What a move by Theo, this kid has been the second basemen we've needed for years (so far). Bellhorn had the power numbers last year and has some clutch hits, but was far too inconsistent, and this year he plain sucks. Graffinino plays with hustle, he's humble, and is a perfect fit with a team of grinders (except Manny). Mueller, Nixon, 'Tek, Graffinino, Damon, Schilling, Wakfield, they all put up good numbers and some put up super numbers, but what makes them so valuable is their determination and grit.

So anyways, Tony G. for Pres!

[Misfit]

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The Sox have aquired Mike Remlinger for Olivo Astacio. I would assume this means Delcarmen is on his way back to Pawtucket, which is probably where he should be right now.

[APD0290]

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This is such a small sample size you're basing Petagine off of. In his last season at Cincy he had an .873 OPS in 62 AB, and had an OPS of >1.000 in 5 of his 6 seasons in Japan. I'll take 6 seasons in Japan over his first 12 at-bats facing major league pitching in 6 years

[Stu]

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This is such a small sample size you're basing Petagine off of. In his last season at Cincy he had an .873 OPS in 62 AB, and had an OPS of >1.000 in 5 of his 6 seasons in Japan. I'll take 6 seasons in Japan over his first 12 at-bats facing major league pitching in 6 years

True, but I'm not sure Petagine will get much more of a chance. His problem has been in the field, not at the plate. With Olerud coming off the DL soon there just isn't room for Petagine. Olerud has been solid at the plate and is one of the better fielding 1B's in the league. I'll take his veteran prescence over Petagine any day. Remember, there's a reason Petagine was playing in Japan and not in MLB.

[CWood2]

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Sox get Mike Remlinger and some cash for the stretch for minor league pitching prospect Olivo Astacio. Great pickup IMO.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2129718

[Misfit]

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Ugly game tonight. By the 10th inning when Renteria was at the plate I was so sick of looking at him, thankfully he delivered, with some help from the homeplate ump (Grybowski was being squeezed big time that inning, maybe he wanted the Sox to win so he could go home?). That walk off hit will keep the boo birds off his back another day.

Terrible debut from Remlinger. I'm expecting him to be a solid arm out of the pen, but after watching him I don't know. He just couldn't put hitters away. He looked like a pitcher at the end of his career.

As for the positives, Clement pitched very well. If not for a Renteria error and a brain cramp on Clement's part, he could have held the Rangers scoreless. The Red Sox need him to pitch like this down the stretch and into the playoffs. Petagine also continued to hit well, as did the rest of the offense really. Schilling also looked pretty good in relief, his splitter and fastball appear to be getting more consistent with each outing.

Hopefully the Sox beat up on Rogers tomorrow and Arroyo bounces back after a poor outing in Minnesota.