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  • metswin3122
    Banned
    • Jan 2014
    • 28

    #121
    Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

    I really haven't seen CPU comeback AI to this level since the early days of Madden. Some people say, "Play good defense and you'll be fine." Ok, so I get in the PG's face and play him tight...he drives right past me for a layup (down the always wide open paint). Next time, I adjust and play off him a bit to prevent the drive...he pulls back for a 3-pointer (which, regardless of difficulty level, goes in about 80% of the time, whether I have a hand in his face or not). Then, at some point, in literally every game (usually in the 2nd half), I just stop making shots. Even A and A+ shots stop going in. This goes for layups, mid-range and free-throws. In about 90% of the games I play, I am winning or losing by less than 10 points at halftime, then the 3rd quarter comes along, and weird things (like Kevin Durant dribbling off of his foot 2 or 3 possessions in a row). The game is absolutely beautiful, and I want to love it, because, when it does work smoothly, it feels great. The learning curve, even at lower levels, just seems to be much too sharp for someone who isn't willing to put in 10 hours a day to learn every last isomotion move...

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    • Heroesandvillains
      MVP
      • May 2009
      • 5974

      #122
      Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

      I'm just not seeing this. It's unfathomable how many people have posted in this thread. I've read the whole thing and seen none of it. And I'm new to the series! You'd think the AI would abuse a noob like me!

      Sitting at 14-6 on Pro Sim. I've only had one game where the "big CPU run" has happened in the 4th. Usually, I see them adjust to me in the 2nd or early 3rd at the latest. But I see it and I adjust.

      I've blownout the CPU on several occasions and so far when I've needed Durant and Westbrook to get me through, they've done it.

      No balls bouncing off foots at suspect time. No crazy cold streaks suddenly from a hot player. No 70% shooting CPU in the 4th. None of that. Nothing suspect at all.

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      • ProStylez
        Goon Squad
        • Oct 2006
        • 1988

        #123
        Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

        [quote=Heroesandvillains;2045904614]I'm just not seeing this. It's unfathomable how many people have posted in this thread. I've read the whole thing and seen none of it. And I'm new to the series! You'd think the AI would abuse a noob like me!

        Sitting at 14-6 on Pro Sim. I've only had one game where the "big CPU run" has happened in the 4th. Usually, I see them adjust to me in the 2nd or early 3rd at the latest. But I see it and I adjust.

        I've blownout the CPU on several occasions and so far when I've needed Durant and Westbrook to get me through, they've done it.

        No balls bouncing off foots at suspect time. No crazy cold streaks

        Agreed. At times they make a shot I think they shouldn't and shake my head, or someone heats up and I don't agree with it but that's just me personally how I feel at that moment lol. I beat the Hawks last night 103-76, I've lost and won close games......to me it all evens out. I'm also playing on All Star with completely default sliders. In my blowout win last night I think the Hawks shot like 37% to my 55%, with my play style I see no issues.

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        • Rockie_Fresh88
          Lockdown Defender
          • Oct 2011
          • 9621

          #124
          Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

          Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
          I'm just not seeing this. It's unfathomable how many people have posted in this thread. I've read the whole thing and seen none of it. And I'm new to the series! You'd think the AI would abuse a noob like me!

          Sitting at 14-6 on Pro Sim. I've only had one game where the "big CPU run" has happened in the 4th. Usually, I see them adjust to me in the 2nd or early 3rd at the latest. But I see it and I adjust.

          I've blownout the CPU on several occasions and so far when I've needed Durant and Westbrook to get me through, they've done it.

          No balls bouncing off foots at suspect time. No crazy cold streaks suddenly from a hot player. No 70% shooting CPU in the 4th. None of that. Nothing suspect at all.
          Try HOF sim . Seems like pro is too easy for you honestly .
          #1 Laker fan
          First Team Defense !!!

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          • Kaanyr Vhok
            MVP
            • Aug 2006
            • 2248

            #125
            Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

            Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
            I'm just not seeing this. It's unfathomable how many people have posted in this thread. I've read the whole thing and seen none of it. And I'm new to the series! You'd think the AI would abuse a noob like me!

            Sitting at 14-6 on Pro Sim. I've only had one game where the "big CPU run" has happened in the 4th. Usually, I see them adjust to me in the 2nd or early 3rd at the latest. But I see it and I adjust.

            I've blownout the CPU on several occasions and so far when I've needed Durant and Westbrook to get me through, they've done it.

            No balls bouncing off foots at suspect time. No crazy cold streaks suddenly from a hot player. No 70% shooting CPU in the 4th. None of that. Nothing suspect at all.
            I dont and have never seen the CPU cheat on Pro. But then again I never play Pro. I just watch it

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            • Heroesandvillains
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 5974

              #126
              Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

              Originally posted by mars5541
              Try HOF sim . Seems like pro is too easy for you honestly .
              Why?

              You do realize the last I checked the real OKC Thunder have a MUCH MUCH better winning percentage than I do, right?

              It's not even close. As of three days ago, they'd lost 10 games in all. I'm almost there. My guess is well before XMas in my season. Where are we in real life now? Almost February!

              The real OKC are playing a lot better than the Heroes one. As of now, any way.

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              • Heroesandvillains
                MVP
                • May 2009
                • 5974

                #127
                Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                Just checked. They're 36-10. I'm 14-6.

                .786 > .700.

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                • Rockie_Fresh88
                  Lockdown Defender
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 9621

                  #128
                  Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                  Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                  Why?

                  You do realize the last I checked the real OKC Thunder have a MUCH MUCH better winning percentage than I do, right?

                  It's not even close. As of three days ago, they'd lost 10 games in all. I'm almost there. My guess is well before XMas in my season. Where are we in real life now? Almost February!

                  The real OKC are playing a lot better than the Heroes one. As of now, any way.
                  Nothing wrong with that. just a suggestion no biggie
                  #1 Laker fan
                  First Team Defense !!!

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                  • Heroesandvillains
                    MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 5974

                    #129
                    Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                    Originally posted by mars5541
                    Nothing wrong with that. just a suggestion no biggie
                    Oh, no worries man. It was an honest question. I know very little about the real NBA and want my games to be very realistic, so I've been stat digging online just to make sure I was on the right/realistic path.

                    To my surprise, my stats are very solid outside of a couple (FT% and Off Rebs are the main two).

                    But anyway, I just wasn't sure if something in my post jumped out to you that needed to be addressed. I'm new to the series and like getting series veteran's opinions.

                    Thanks for the feedback.

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                    • Sundown
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 3270

                      #130
                      Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                      Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                      I'm just not seeing this. It's unfathomable how many people have posted in this thread. I've read the whole thing and seen none of it. And I'm new to the series! You'd think the AI would abuse a noob like me!

                      Sitting at 14-6 on Pro Sim. I've only had one game where the "big CPU run" has happened in the 4th. Usually, I see them adjust to me in the 2nd or early 3rd at the latest. But I see it and I adjust.

                      I've blownout the CPU on several occasions and so far when I've needed Durant and Westbrook to get me through, they've done it.

                      No balls bouncing off foots at suspect time. No crazy cold streaks suddenly from a hot player. No 70% shooting CPU in the 4th. None of that. Nothing suspect at all.
                      Pro's easy enough that late CPU momentum cheese is easily overcome especially running with OKC.

                      It becomes much more challenging playing a lesser team on All-Star and above and unlikely things happen with too much regularity, where as on Pro the CPU doesn't provide enough challenge with those same teams.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #131
                        Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                        Just curious if guys have maxed out offensive and defensive awareness to see if that gives them a better challenge instead of jumping to a level like HOF instead

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                        • Rockie_Fresh88
                          Lockdown Defender
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 9621

                          #132
                          Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                          Originally posted by 23
                          Just curious if guys have maxed out offensive and defensive awareness to see if that gives them a better challenge instead of jumping to a level like HOF instead
                          That's a good idea. I'm debating changing from HOF to allstar or superstar for a more sim experience . Might try it
                          #1 Laker fan
                          First Team Defense !!!

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #133
                            Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                            Originally posted by mars5541
                            That's a good idea. I'm debating changing from HOF to allstar or superstar for a more sim experience . Might try it
                            I play pro sim but thats what ive done ...a couple of the few sliders that ive changed. Im just wondering what others experiences would be

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                            • SPRINGS03
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1202

                              #134
                              Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                              Originally posted by mars5541
                              That's a good idea. I'm debating changing from HOF to allstar or superstar for a more sim experience . Might try it
                              I recommend superstar sim, with tweaked sliders(lowered shooting sliders for everyone for more realistic percentages and slightly lowered offensive rebounding sliders for the cpu).

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                              • wowlace
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 42

                                #135
                                Re: Next Gen CPU Cheese/Cheating Is Amazing!

                                I like it when the CPU needs to make up 10 points on you, you team mates begin to throw the game with turnovers. The best I have seen is the backcourt violation on the inbounds pass. Lolwat the **** was that?!

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