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  • darkknightrises
    Banned
    • Sep 2012
    • 1468

    #706
    Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

    Originally posted by Leftos
    I'll look into that too.


    Thinks I saw Kobe in the freeaget poll at the age of 46 in 2024 and wade at like the age of 43 to name a few and they had ratings of like 50 or something and sever other ones.

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    • darkknightrises
      Banned
      • Sep 2012
      • 1468

      #707
      Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

      Originally posted by Soundtrack2C
      The real life hard cap is 100, while the salary cap is 65. Meaning that if a player plays more than 3 years with a team, the team may go over the cap to sign that player and enter the hard cap.

      I would like to make the salary cap higher while keeping that hard cap


      I would like to beable to do that to because I know the cap goes up ever few years of so. While ok thinks I will have to put the hard cap at 100 then.

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      • Soundtrack2C
        Rookie
        • Oct 2014
        • 115

        #708
        Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

        Originally posted by mrprice33
        Have you looked at the Sixers cap sheet recently? They finished 13-14 with 27 million on the books and start this year with 35 million on the books. I imagine next year will be the same.
        I certainly understand that, but thats real life. Are they never going to spend money in my league??

        For the purposes of a video game, I would like to see them spend money and not see overall 75 players remain free agents when the year starts, just because teams like the sixers decided to not try and add any salary. Im very sure there isn't any logic in the game that is making the sixers wait for durant in 2016 or something, so i don't see why they don't spend some money. I mean, I let them have 90 million, they won't even spend 50.

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        • Soundtrack2C
          Rookie
          • Oct 2014
          • 115

          #709
          Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

          Originally posted by darkknightrises
          I would like to beable to do that to because I know the cap goes up ever few years of so. While ok thinks I will have to put the hard cap at 100 then.
          Yea, and removing the salary cap to institute a 100 million dollar hard cap, "breaks the game", from the perspective that we can no longer see the contract breakdowns by the year for other teams, and also bird rights are gone.

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          • mrprice33
            Just some guy
            • Jul 2003
            • 5986

            #710
            Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

            Originally posted by Soundtrack2C
            I certainly understand that, but thats real life. Are they never going to spend money in my league??

            For the purposes of a video game, I would like to see them spend money and not see overall 75 players remain free agents when the year starts, just because teams like the sixers decided to not try and add any salary. Im very sure there isn't any logic in the game that is making the sixers wait for durant in 2016 or something, so i don't see why they don't spend some money. I mean, I let them have 90 million, they won't even spend 50.
            I don't know. How far out have you simmed? In my test ML (as the sixers), I went into year 2 with about the same cap sheet, as bigger FAs didn't want to sign with me and the overpriced vets at 75 ovr would be blocking development of my young guys.

            There may wind up being a problem here, but I don't think this is a great example, especially considering they're modeling the real team to a T. This is what we want, no?

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            • LorenzoDC
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 1857

              #711
              Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

              Originally posted by Leftos
              First of all, I don't understand the "we're being ignored by the devs" sentiment at all. I've been as active as I can be on these forums, responding to as many issues as I can. Even when we don't respond, I know my colleagues are also monitoring the threads because I'm getting e-mails with posts from OS containing suggestions, criticisms and issues all the time, like "have you seen this" and "this is a great idea".

              I understand the number of training camps isn't to your liking, and I will pass that on, but we have a brand new in-season training system that allows you to develop players exactly how you want, which is why the training camps were toned down in value; to allow players not to become too overpowered too fast.

              As for the issues reported regarding trade approval and the gameplan, I'll look into them. I'll mention again two things regarding individual team gameplans:
              - Always pay it a visit right before a game with a particular opponent to make sure any trades or injuries haven't invalidated it. If it's not valid, it's not going to be used and the global settings will be used instead.
              - The Points of Emphasis set in the per-opponent gameplan are passed on to the AI as the coach's preferences. They're not forced, nor are they guaranteed to be selected, and they're different from the in-game option that forces a POE as the currently selected. You're telling the AI that you want this to be run as much as possible, so the AI will give it additional weight, but if it determines that another POE would be much more beneficial, it will pick that instead. There's a difference between a preferred POE and a forced POE.

              As for the MyLEAGUE sliders, I can guarantee you they work and there's been extensive testing posted online proving that they work. I have received feedback about some of them being underpowered, and I'm looking into tuning them to be more powerful without breaking the game (a slider such as player progression set to 100 is already quite dangerous if used like that for multiple years).

              As for team building, again, we're monitoring all feedback and trying to find ways to alleviate issues and improve the logic. Nobody's being ignored, especially if they're providing detailed feedback.

              Regarding the CPU drafting, I've posted numerous times that important tuning is incoming soon and the logic should be much improved.
              Leftos, in spite of the way this thread has progressed, the mode is not broken. Hell, if anything, with the server issues again this year, it's the most functional mode in thte title.

              I for one am enjoying it, though there are areas to improve. Just wanted to add that to the thread. I expect I'm not alone.

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              • Leftos
                NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                • Oct 2010
                • 1255

                #712
                Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                Leftos, in spite of the way this thread has progressed, the mode is not broken. Hell, if anything, with the server issues again this year, it's the most functional mode in thte title.

                I for one am enjoying it, though there are areas to improve. Just wanted to add that to the thread. I expect I'm not alone.
                My first paragraph was a slight overreaction, but I wanted to repeat the sentiment that we're on top of any and all issues reported and we're always keeping our ear to the ground for feedback. I'm only human though, and it's impossible to reply to everyone in a timely manner, I'm doing my best.

                I apologize to those having issues and I'll do my best with the rest of the team to rectify as many as possible.

                You're not the only one Lorenzo, we've gotten a lot of positive feedback from a lot of users about the mode, and I'm pretty confident that even most of the users that report an issue or two are having fun with it nevertheless. I know I am, as much as I'm getting my butt kicked with my Pistons.
                Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
                NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                Novato, CA, USA

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                • Soundtrack2C
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 115

                  #713
                  Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                  Originally posted by mrprice33
                  I don't know. How far out have you simmed? In my test ML (as the sixers), I went into year 2 with about the same cap sheet, as bigger FAs didn't want to sign with me and the overpriced vets at 75 ovr would be blocking development of my young guys.

                  There may wind up being a problem here, but I don't think this is a great example, especially considering they're modeling the real team to a T. This is what we want, no?
                  I haven't summed too far because I know what will happen, I believe the 76ers have 3 picks in 2015 or something? So naturally I expect them to either:

                  1. Draft players and not be able to sign anyone in the offseason, because their roster will be full

                  2. Draft players and not be able to sign them because their roster will be full

                  One of those two will likely happen.

                  The game shouldn't "model a team to a T", if it were to do that, wouldn't that mean that the Suns for the next 80 years should keep 3 starting caliber point guards?

                  I don't think that anyone wants teams to be modeled, I think we want to see realistic team building, which for the most part has happened, outside of the 76ers not using their cap. I believe I saw a second team that didn't spend money, I will check again later.

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                  • SmooveMove
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1349

                    #714
                    Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                    Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                    Leftos, in spite of the way this thread has progressed, the mode is not broken. Hell, if anything, with the server issues again this year, it's the most functional mode in thte title.

                    I for one am enjoying it, though there are areas to improve. Just wanted to add that to the thread. I expect I'm not alone.
                    The thread has progressed just fine. People are just reporting problems with the mode and thankfully we have someone involved and active like Leftos listening to them. If 40 year olds aren't retiring or players can't be signed in the offseason don't you think those are things we have to bring to someones attention?
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                    • Soundtrack2C
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 115

                      #715
                      Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                      Originally posted by LorenzoDC
                      Leftos, in spite of the way this thread has progressed, the mode is not broken. Hell, if anything, with the server issues again this year, it's the most functional mode in thte title.

                      I for one am enjoying it, though there are areas to improve. Just wanted to add that to the thread. I expect I'm not alone.
                      The mode may not be "broken", but it wasn't what was advertised. They said it would be "association on steroids", that isn't the case.

                      Certain bugs are inhibiting the mode, which have been discussed already

                      Coach gameplay doesn't work how it had been originally explained

                      We cannot edit the salary cap

                      We are limited to just being able to have 2 "free camps" in the offseason

                      We can't increase a player's potential by more than 3 points in the potential camp, so thats been rendered pretty useless.

                      The mode isn't "broken", but it certainly hasn't been what we expected it to be.

                      Hopefully the issues get corrected and then I can actually have fun again.

                      *sidenote, I think this will be the last sports game that I buy for a while. I keep throwing away $60 on madden and this and end up disappointed because 1 or 2 things that are vital to my experience, hamper the game.

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                      • Soundtrack2C
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 115

                        #716
                        Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                        Originally posted by SmooveMove
                        The thread has progressed just fine. People are just reporting problems with the mode and thankfully we have someone involved and active like Leftos listening to them. If 40 year olds aren't retiring or players can't be signed in the offseason don't you think those are things we have to bring to someones attention?
                        Exactly. All we are doing is trying to have our voices heard, we're just trying to make sure they can fix the issues with this game, before they jump onto 2k16 in a month, or whenever they start the dev cycle for it.

                        Look at the crap we were left with last year, if team fired a coach, a PG on that roster would magically shrink or grow.

                        was that ever fixed? NOPE.

                        So don't tell us to accept that this game isn't flawed. We're just trying to fix the issues we are having so we haven't wasted another $60 on a broken product

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                        • LorenzoDC
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1857

                          #717
                          Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                          Originally posted by SmooveMove
                          The thread has progressed just fine. People are just reporting problems with the mode and thankfully we have someone involved and active like Leftos listening to them. If 40 year olds aren't retiring or players can't be signed in the offseason don't you think those are things we have to bring to someones attention?
                          It's a matter of tone and presentation of the issues. I've presented issues myself, maybe not in this thread, I don't keep track that way. But calling the mode "broken," as has happened in this thread, is, in my opinion, far from reasonable. I've heard an adversarial tone in this thread to Leftos and the devs that I don't think is at all warranted. I'm adversarial as hell with Madden, and I think that's warranted, but not for 2k's MyLeague mode.

                          Others disagree, and that's fine. I'm expressing my point of view.

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                          • ggsimmonds
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 11235

                            #718
                            Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                            Originally posted by Soundtrack2C
                            I haven't summed too far because I know what will happen, I believe the 76ers have 3 picks in 2015 or something? So naturally I expect them to either:

                            1. Draft players and not be able to sign anyone in the offseason, because their roster will be full

                            2. Draft players and not be able to sign them because their roster will be full

                            One of those two will likely happen.

                            The game shouldn't "model a team to a T", if it were to do that, wouldn't that mean that the Suns for the next 80 years should keep 3 starting caliber point guards?

                            I don't think that anyone wants teams to be modeled, I think we want to see realistic team building, which for the most part has happened, outside of the 76ers not using their cap. I believe I saw a second team that didn't spend money, I will check again later.
                            I will go on record to state that I want to see teams modeled after their real life counterparts.

                            If 2k did it your way, then every team would be the same. In real life the 76ers do not have the financial resources of some of the big market teams and I am glad this is modeled in the game.

                            Your example using the Suns misses the mark. Them carrying 3 PGs is not a pattern or characteristic of the team. It is different.

                            Now I will say this works better in mygm where finances are a part of the package. For my league I think it would be cool if we were allowed prior to start up to individually alter each teams budget/behavior.
                            In mygm I would like to see the addition of new ownership similar to what is in FIFA (though not nearly as often and they need not always be big spenders)

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                            • LorenzoDC
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1857

                              #719
                              Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                              Originally posted by Soundtrack2C
                              The mode may not be "broken", but it wasn't what was advertised. They said it would be "association on steroids", that isn't the case.

                              Certain bugs are inhibiting the mode, which have been discussed already

                              Coach gameplay doesn't work how it had been originally explained

                              We cannot edit the salary cap

                              We are limited to just being able to have 2 "free camps" in the offseason

                              We can't increase a player's potential by more than 3 points in the potential camp, so thats been rendered pretty useless.

                              The mode isn't "broken", but it certainly hasn't been what we expected it to be.

                              Hopefully the issues get corrected and then I can actually have fun again.

                              *sidenote, I think this will be the last sports game that I buy for a while. I keep throwing away $60 on madden and this and end up disappointed because 1 or 2 things that are vital to my experience, hamper the game.
                              The progression system issue you raise is a matter, it seems to me, of design choice and game balancing.

                              The 2 or 3 or maybe even 1 off season discretionary attribute bump is tied to your trainer's ability. It's not sim in the sense that teams can send all their players to training camp. But it's also not sim in that players in the mode can't get injured in training camp.

                              For the mode, you can progress players through training systems in season you can control, so the off season training camp option exists as part of that ecosystem. All players can progress with training if they are young enough and healthy enough, and we can also use sliders to influence how powerful we want the training progression system to be. Personally, I have set draft classes a bit lower on the slider and given a little bit of a bump to training influence. To each his own.

                              If we had the ability to train everyone in the offf season in camp, and if training bumped attributes by 5 points as you suggest, you could have a team of beasts by season 3. I don't think that's a good solution, especially in combination with the in season training progression system. You call this broken, I call it a design decision for game balance.

                              Personally, I'd like to see the whole off season expanded and made less linear. Why are trades only allowed during the period just before the draft? How about summer leagues? What about off season injuries?

                              But to call the mode broken just because progression is not tied 100% into training camp the way it has been in past Association modes is just, in my view, unreasonable. I like the in season training system and the way it sets up cost benefit decisions.

                              For example, if my high potential SF is an offensive scoring type with weaknesses on defense, I could try to develop his strengths but maybe I want him to play better D for my system and scheme. If I train him on D, he will improve there, but he will also degrade slightly on the areas that make him unique on offense. I have to decide where to focus. And even more, I think about signing and drafting players who fit what I'm trying to do as a team That's good sim.
                              Last edited by LorenzoDC; 10-19-2014, 09:42 PM.

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                              • Soundtrack2C
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 115

                                #720
                                Re: NBA 2K15 Official MyLEAGUE Thread

                                Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                                I will go on record to state that I want to see teams modeled after their real life counterparts.

                                If 2k did it your way, then every team would be the same. In real life the 76ers do not have the financial resources of some of the big market teams and I am glad this is modeled in the game.

                                Your example using the Suns misses the mark. Them carrying 3 PGs is not a pattern or characteristic of the team. It is different.

                                Now I will say this works better in mygm where finances are a part of the package. For my league I think it would be cool if we were allowed prior to start up to individually alter each teams budget/behavior.
                                In mygm I would like to see the addition of new ownership similar to what is in FIFA (though not nearly as often and they need not always be big spenders)
                                The sixers have to spend money, they have to spend 90% of the salary cap. NBA teams have money, they may not all spend money into the luxury tax, but they most certainly have the capacity to spend money to fill the salary cap.

                                And by league rules, they have to meet 90% of the salary.

                                This notion that they are poor, doesn't work here

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