Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

[and1product]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

We approach to them with a US PS4 in our hands!

I have a ps4 but i dont play my sport games on it. Its solely for bloodborne, uncharted and god of war. But they should not force consumers to play certain games on a system of THEIR choice. I prefer the x1.

[RustyRocket56]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

If this is true, I'm going to talk to Steve and Mil and think hard about what we do here. I'm hesitant to call anyone a liar but here are the facts:

Monday 12/8: Patch released on PS4. People are complaining about the missing shoe bug. 2k Marketing confirms the patch is still coming for PC and X1.

Wednesday 12/10: Patch released on PC. More reports of the shoe bug.

Thursday 12/11: LD says he is going to check with MS about the X1. Silent about the international PS4 patch.

Friday 12/12: No update from 2k Marketing except for a twitter post from LD stating that MS said the patch could drop "maybe by the end of the week". 2k UK marketing says the patch was submitted that day for international users.

Monday 12/15: Still no update from 2k marketing on OS but Ronnie and LD state on their twitter pages that they are "still waiting on MS".

Tuesday 12/16: LD states on OS that the patch is still being tested by MS but allegedly states during the livestream that the patch had been resent to MS.

Here is my issue: It appears that from the facts that 2k Marketing knew that there was an issue with the patch last week and that it would be needed to be resubmitted and misled everyone about it.

At this point its just the principal. Over the past week, I've been playing WWE, UFC, Fifa and Madden w/ GTA and Forza Horizon on deck. I havent played NBA 2k in over a week.

With that said, I dont like when I'm or other OSers are lied to or mislead by people affiliated with a game company. People come to OS because this forum gives them the opportunity to interact with game company staff which is something that not alot of forums offer. Because of that access, we take steps to protect game company staff from attacks, insults and abuse.

But we dont allow staff to mislead our members and as I said yesterday, I'm not a fan of a one sided relationship. You cant use OS to hype your games/features and then disappear when there are major issues with the game.

Some of you may not know this but our relationship with 2k developers has nothing to do with 2k marketing AT ALL. Beluba used to be on the OS Staff. Rob Jones has been a lurker on OS for years. You guys already know about Da Czar and Mike Stauffer who were Osers before they were 2k employees. Those guys understand the relationship. They answer what they can and if they say they are going to give us an answer or keep us informed....they do. No lies. No sarcastic comments. Just straight up answers.

This whole situation just leaves me with a bad taste. Its not my call but I think we should reconsider how much access and protection we give game company PR/Marketing. If anyone else had done what 2k marketing has done, we would consider that trolling.

[Glenn33]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

I have a ps4 but i dont play my sport games on it. Its solely for bloodborne, uncharted and god of war. But they should not force consumers to play certain games on a system of THEIR choice. I prefer the x1.

I have both systems and truthfully I prefer to play games on my xbone. But this is ridiculous. I only got 2k on the PS4 so I could do game sharing with my son and was planning on switching to the Xbone version next year. I may rethink that now.


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[x Stinkfist x]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

It could be worse guys. You could've bought NBA Live, lol.

[Retropyro]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

If this is true, I'm going to talk to Steve and Mil and think hard about what we do here. I'm hesitant to call anyone a liar but here are the facts:

Monday 12/8: Patch released on PS4. People are complaining about the missing shoe bug. 2k Marketing confirms the patch is still coming for PC and X1.

Wednesday 12/10: Patch released on PC. More reports of the shoe bug.

Thursday 12/11: LD says he is going to check with MS about the X1. Silent about the international PS4 patch.

Friday 12/12: No update from 2k Marketing except for a twitter post from LD stating that MS said the patch could drop "maybe by the end of the week". 2k UK marketing says the patch was submitted that day for international users.

Monday 12/15: Still no update from 2k marketing on OS but Ronnie and LD state on their twitter pages that they are "still waiting on MS".

Tuesday 12/16: LD states on OS that the patch is still being tested by MS but allegedly states during the livestream that the patch had been resent to MS.

Here is my issue: It appears that from the facts that 2k Marketing knew that there was an issue with the patch last week and that it would be needed to be resubmitted and misled everyone about it.

At this point its just the principal. Over the past week, I've been playing WWE, UFC, Fifa and Madden w/ GTA and Forza Horizon on deck. I havent played NBA 2k in over a week.

With that said, I dont like when I'm or other OSers are lied to or mislead by people affiliated with a game company. People come to OS because this forum gives them the opportunity to interact with game company staff which is something that not alot of forums offer. Because of that access, we take steps to protect game company staff from attacks, insults and abuse.

But we dont allow staff to mislead our members and as I said yesterday, I'm not a fan of a one sided relationship. You cant use OS to hype your games/features and then disappear when there are major issues with the game.

Some of you may not know this but our relationship with 2k developers has nothing to do with 2k marketing AT ALL. Beluba used to be on the OS Staff. Rob Jones has been a lurker on OS for years. You guys already know about Da Czar and Mike Stauffer who were Osers before they were 2k employees. Those guys understand the relationship. They answer what they can and if they say they are going to give us an answer or keep us informed....they do. No lies. No sarcastic comments. Just straight up answers.

This whole situation just leaves me with a bad taste. Its not my call but I think we should reconsider how much access and protection we give game company PR/Marketing. If anyone else had done what 2k marketing has done, we would consider that trolling.

[Finepanther]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

The marketing department at 2k has been misleading us too much for too long.

-They told us we could use alternate jerseys in mycareer but they didn't say that it would only be for holidays.

-They said the servers were much improved as they had their "best people" working on them and yet they were broken once again at launch.

-Now they act like Microsoft was just being slow when really they submitted a faulty patch that had to be re-submitted.

No, technically they don't "lie" but they absolutely mislead and clearly it's on purpose. There has always been a gross discrepancy between what they advertise and the game we actually buy.

[stillfeelme]

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This is my opinion they clearly knew something was wrong with the MS XB1 patch and instead of being upfront about it they decided to stay quiet on the issue.

So they can say "We are waiting on MS to approve the patch, or it is being tested by MS" That may be a true statement but they conveniently leave out that the patch had to be resent. Marketing didn't know that the patch had to be resent or that it had issues? So he probably didn't lie but decided to hide the truth.

When 2K goes silent on direct questions expect the answer to be bad at least I always do. It means the answer is no or bad and they don't want to promote it.

[LD2k]

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Nobody said the patch was "resent." It's still in their approval process. We're waiting on them.

Also, marketing doesn't submit patches - that's done on the dev. side. We'll try to provide an update as we hear them. But it's only been less than 14 days since submission, still. I know you guys are eager, so are we.

[thawkprime 21]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

Nobody said the patch was "resent." It's still in their approval process. We're waiting on them.

Also, marketing doesn't submit patches - that's done on the dev. side. We'll try to provide an update as we hear them. But it's only been less than 14 days since submission, still. I know you guys are eager, so are we.

So if 14 is the Magic number do we not count weekends and the day that it was submitted which i am to guess was Monday the 1st. So does that make today day 12.

[jgozalb]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

Nobody said the patch was "resent." It's still in their approval process. We're waiting on them.

Also, marketing doesn't submit patches - that's done on the dev. side. We'll try to provide an update as we hear them. But it's only been less than 14 days since submission, still. I know you guys are eager, so are we.

It maybe less than 14 days since submission for PS4 Euro because it's has not made clear when it was sent. By some twitters 14 days a due tomorrow but if we take in account last Fridays Twitter as the day that you submitted the patch for Ps4 Euro we are still a few days away from 14 count. So as we were saying a little further explanation would help... And we mean ETA.than you



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[LD2k]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

We always like to build in buffer in case any issues arise. As I mentioned, we'll keep you posted.

Want this out in everyone's hands as much as you guys do.

[El_Poopador]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

Nobody said the patch was "resent." It's still in their approval process. We're waiting on them.

Also, marketing doesn't submit patches - that's done on the dev. side. We'll try to provide an update as we hear them. But it's only been less than 14 days since submission, still. I know you guys are eager, so are we.

But it's been more than 14 days since the PS4 got the patch. Why was the XB1 patch not even submitted two weeks after it was approved and launched on the US PS4?

[vtcrb]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

Nobody said the patch was "resent." It's still in their approval process. We're waiting on them.

Also, marketing doesn't submit patches - that's done on the dev. side. We'll try to provide an update as we hear them. But it's only been less than 14 days since submission, still. I know you guys are eager, so are we.

Wait so WHEN was the Patch sent IF it hasnt been 14 days? The Type of Feedback you are giving is WHAT we have been asking for. Clarification on things can stop ALOT of Negative feedback and backlash. Thank You.

[aholbert32]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

Nobody said the patch was "resent." It's still in their approval process. We're waiting on them.

Also, marketing doesn't submit patches - that's done on the dev. side. We'll try to provide an update as we hear them. But it's only been less than 14 days since submission, still. I know you guys are eager, so are we.

So by saying it wasnt "resent" means that MS still has the original patch, right?

You posted on Twitter on Dec. 1st that the patch has been submitted.

https://twitter.com/LD2K/status/539555214735323136

Today is the 17th. Thats 16-17 days. Your post said it would be approved within 10-14 days. So saying its within the 14 day timeline is incorrect for MS/X1 users unless 1) the X1 patch wasnt submitted on the 1st or 2) the patch was rejected and 2k had to resend the patch.

[LD2k]

Re: Patch #3 XB1 and International PS4 Update Thread

Forget the 14 days thing.

Take a step back for a moment. Both patches were submitted at the same time. Different approval processes - even with regions.

Previous two patches were released simultaneously. This patch has not. I don't have transparency on to why that is, but promise to keep you guys informed on when we can expect it to be approved/released.