There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Interesting that nobody noticed Mike Wang's tweet.

" I'm making some adjustments for the gameplay patch. Should make poor defenders less OP and fix some bad hitching/sliding."

[The 24th Letter]

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Was just about to post that HK...good to know its being looked at...

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Hopefully being tuned is the ability of slow defenders to turn their head and recover.

The slower guys feel slower but they can turn on a dime and catch up to Kyrie Irving and swat his shot. Ive found this in blacktop, havent seen it as much in games.

[EarvGotti]

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Interesting that nobody noticed Mike Wang's tweet.

" I'm making some adjustments for the gameplay patch. Should make poor defenders less OP and fix some bad hitching/sliding."

I just hope it doesn't break anything else

[ch46647]

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When Mike says "hitching", I assume that means the hitch in a ball handlers dribble move and drive to the basket?

If so, this is great news!

[Jrocc23]

There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Interesting that nobody noticed Mike Wang's tweet.

" I'm making some adjustments for the gameplay patch. Should make poor defenders less OP and fix some bad hitching/sliding."

Good news. But please, Mike, don't mess up the defense overall and cave and lower the defense for people complaining on twitter and etc. It'll just force them to get better.

Just fix the sliding and forcefields if you can. If you can't get it right in this patch or even this year without messing up the defense, I won't mind waiting until you can get it right because the defense is amazing besides those issues. I want defense to stay tough, but also realistic.

[strawberryshortcake]

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Interesting that nobody noticed Mike Wang's tweet.

" I'm making some adjustments for the gameplay patch. Should make poor defenders less OP and fix some bad hitching/sliding."

Hope he makes help defense stronger. If he's going to tame down on ball defense, interior paint and help defense must be more intense. Because there are instances where the driver commits to the basket and help defense isn't fully aware even if his peripheral vision sees the driver.

[Sundown]

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Hope he makes help defense stronger. If he's going to tame down on ball defense, interior paint and help defense must be more intense. Because there are instances where the driver commits to the basket and help defense isn't fully aware even if his peripheral vision sees the driver.

Yes please. That would do a lot to have the defense resemble NBA team defenses. It's not so much just the difficulty of the CPU defense but rather how it defends as a scheme.

[ksuttonjr76]

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Interesting that nobody noticed Mike Wang's tweet.

" I'm making some adjustments for the gameplay patch. Should make poor defenders less OP and fix some bad hitching/sliding."

And so it begins...welp, I'm going to trust them, but I'm going to be livid if the zig zag cheese comes back in full force.

I wasn't one of the people having a problem getting past the CPU defender. Let's be honest...It'll just make it easier for people like me, and more "accessible" to those who couldn't. Let's see how this affects online games.

[I_Am_Freitas]

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I'm curious to ask you guys this...what sliders do you use, if any? What doesn't need adjusting at all and what sliders do you think need major adjusting?

Also, from my experience, setting the CPU On-Ball Defense to 0 works well. It makes the bad defenders play bad defence and makes guys who have great defence, like LeBron or Kawhi, play great defence. It works for me.


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[myathebee]

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Interesting that nobody noticed Mike Wang's tweet.

" I'm making some adjustments for the gameplay patch. Should make poor defenders less OP and fix some bad hitching/sliding."

In other words,he's going completely nerf the defense lol.


I doubt the hitching/sliding can be fixed with a patch.

[loadedlux]

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I will replicate the move when I fire up the game tonight. But it looks like he should of just went into a hesi then a spin then a shot/layup. I don't know if he accidently tapped the right stick again causing the in and out dribble at the end. Or if he held the stick down for the shot. If it's the latter then that would indeed be a problem that 2k will need to fix.

No I completely let go of right stick and used left stick and R2 to drive. I also use the square button to shoot not the stick. But I'm starting to believe what the other guys says about the 'invisible walls. I can pull off that move no stutter issue in normal freestyle mode. But if im in a game or scrimmage with a defender on me its like the game says ' yeah you clearly beat the cpu defense but we dont want you to, so here is a stutter step so the cpu can have time to catch up'.

[DonWuan]

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Wouldn't call it frustration but its getting annoying with players like gortat locking down cp3 on the perimeter. I'm not looking for an and1 mixtape show nor do I want a guaranteed basket. I just want space. At least 6/10 times I should have the advantage out there.

Hate to complain about it because I don't want the super nerf. But there should be a difference between legit perimeter defenders and average.

But today I discovered early release tend to go in more often. When I get off tonight I'm going to play without the shot meter. Playing on superstar now because all-star was to easy.



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[strawberryshortcake]

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And so it begins...welp, I'm going to trust them, but I'm going to be livid if the zig zag cheese comes back in full force.

I wasn't one of the people having a problem getting past the CPU defender. Let's be honest...It'll just make it easier for people like me, and more "accessible" to those who couldn't. Let's see how this affects online games.

I can probably guarantee zig zag cheese is going to come back. The repercussions for taming down the existing on-ball defense will also mean the user's on-ball defense gets nerfed. Developers should look to remove warps and whatever hitches there are, but the existing level of on ball defense for defenders are fine.

When on-ball defense is nerfed, my educated guess is the on-ball defense gets nerfed for both cpu and user. My guess is selective nerfing of on-ball defense is going to be difficult to accomplish. If cpu gets nerfed, so will the user controlled team. The way the current mechanics of playing user on-ball defense I'm going to assume is somehow also tied to the way the cpu plays on-ball defense. You change one system for the cpu, you're indirectly changing the same system for the user.

I just played a game against the Nuggests in MyLeague and decided to save and exit. I am up 30 points at the half. Will resume later on.

Wouldn't call it frustration but its getting annoying with players like gortat locking down cp3 on the perimeter. I'm not looking for an and1 mixtape show nor do I want a guaranteed basket. I just want space. At least 6/10 times I should have the advantage out there.

Hate to complain about it because I don't want the super nerf. But there should be a difference between legit perimeter defenders and average.

But today I discovered early release tend to go in more often. When I get off tonight I'm going to play without the shot meter. Playing on superstar now because all-star was to easy.
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We'll see how it goes with the patch.

But as it stands now, I personally don't see an issue with the defenders. Terrible defenders are terrible. Good defenders are good. I hate to bring back the point of "stick skills," (because honestly my stick stills suck; everyone on this forum likely has better stick skills than I do, even those that continue to make remarks about the on-ball defense being overly powerful). Because it truly, actually matters. (Not referring to warps or majestic sliding), but haven't you been introduced something in life where it's a difficult challenge initially, but overtime it simply became second nature and you could do it in your sleep?

You can blow by a weak defender if the gamer's stick still is good enough. Instant gratification within the first week of the game release is not something gamers should shoot for. Where is the patience to put in the practice.


I'm going to quote something from another thread.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-here-100.html

Just a few quick things:

- Practice, practice, practice. Man has that made me enjoy the game more. I am beating some guys for easy buckets. I'm learning the plays and what my options are. I'm learning what my guys excel at and what they can't do. (i.e. Mudiay is a beast when you post up smaller PG's but can't shoot the J)

Spoiler

- The difference in bad/average/good/great is extremely noticeable. In practice I was the Nuggets vs Celtics. I'm running my plays and thinking the game is too easy (AS/Sim) and scoring at will. I go in-game and I try to run some plays for Gallinari and Wiggins is guarding him. LOL @ me. I'm trying to dribble around a set screen and Wiggins just cuts me off. I had no counter. I never saw that in practice.

A couple things I personally want:

#1 - The ability to set freelance outside of the game. Let me set it in my coach settings. If it's already there please let me know!

#2 - The ability to create a custom PB outside of MyLeague/MyGM. I love the run plays feature in the main menu. Scrimmage is cool and all...but I enjoy run plays better. Let me build a PB outside of a game mode. Plus, let's say you build a PB and you decide to restart after a patch: you have to re-create that PB.

#3 - Please give us an option for "traditional" sub method. I just don't enjoy the current format. I will probably get more used to it but in all honesty it takes too long in its current state.

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I'm sitting here at work excited to go home and practice plays to improve my game and get a better feel for the squad.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-here-100.html
Amen on practice. Learning more and more. Had Gortat on Thomas switch and just laughed as I drove by. So much fun

Just because a select group of individuals can't easily blow by terrible defenders, doesn't mean it's impossible because it's clearly shown by other gamers that it's possible. What does that mean? It does come down to stick skills.

People are talking about outside wide open jumpers not being made. Same argument applies. Initially, I had struggles with outside jumpers, I didn't complain. The more work I put into it, most open jump shots falls for me.

Developers created the existing on-ball defense for a reason. They are ballers themselves. They know basketball. If the patch truly implements on-ball defensive changes, the game will become too easy for those that are blowing by on-ball defenders and guess what, it could be totally unplayable for those individuals because these gamers will be bored out of their minds.

I'll say it again....

You can overcome a challenge, but you can never overcome the boredom of beating an easy cpu.

[manu1433]

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In other words,he's going completely nerf the defense lol.


I doubt the hitching/sliding can be fixed with a patch.

not sure on sliding, but hitching was patched out last year.....so it can definitely be patched