There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

[seanbarkley]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Like others have said, you rarely see clean blow bys in the NBA. I will agree that at times there may be some sliding but I don't think its anything that NEEDS to be patched.



This defense encourages a diversified offense. Running screen plays, PnR, posting up. All of these are components of an offense and need to be utilized for success.



The A.I. is probably always in good position to defend you because they know what you're going to do if you do the same thing over and over.

I'm with you that the game is encouraging and it feels great getting buckets after running great plays or smart PnR, but IMO defense is too extreme in the backcourt. I mean, it is not realistic having a player always glued to you because that doesn't happen during the first 3 Qs of any NBA game (except playoffs).

In any NBA game you see a lot of non contested perimeter jumpshots but If they allow us to do that 90% of the jumpshots will go in. That's were the problem lies IMO. They should allow more uncontested shots but the percentage should be lower, because not every shot in a perfect situation and with a perfect timing should go in as happens in the game.

I kinda like the fact they reward you for running great plays or crossovers, but that triggers the fact that almost every good uncontested shot will go in, and every contested shot will be missed. IRL a lot of contested shots go in and a lot of free jumpshots are missed. The algorithm for both situations to determine if the shot goes in or not should depend on the situation on the player on the court (contested/uncontested), the position of the body, the percentage of the player, his strike, if it's a hot spot and a long etcetera, not just the rule: uncontested -> IN, contested -> OUT.

[hanzsomehanz]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Sure, but all the under the hood calculations presented as animations should lead to outcomes that (roughly) reflect the NBA game. Right now, the bumping is being used as a tool to reach some pretty good statistical outcomes (computers and users being forced more into midrange jumpers and points in the paint coming from big men as well as penetrating guards.) On screen, it can appear a little jarring, but it is preferable to the paintspam and open corner threes of the last several years.

I favor what you said here ... I prefer this environment which is more circular and complex in ball movement over 15 which was more linear and simplistic but also very vulnerable to breakdowns on every layer of defense.


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[2_headedmonster]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

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here is the best one on one scorer in the game today... not many great defenders in these clips yet they keep him in front of them.

He creates space (by making the defender drop his lead foot, something 2k desperately needs to replicate), not driving lanes. I think 2k needs to replicate that. That would ensure the challenge remains without the warping while remaining realistic...

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Good vid. Its rare for anyone to blow by the defender and get in all the way.

[manu1433]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

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here is the best one on one scorer in the game today... not many great defenders in these clips yet they keep him in front of them.

He creates space (by making the defender drop his lead foot, something 2k desperately needs to replicate), not driving lanes. I think 2k needs to replicate that. That would ensure the challenge remains without the warping while remaining realistic...

alright, now I want you to post a video of you shooting fades, leaners, and midrange jumpers off the dribble in nba2k16 in one game with durant on superstar/sim without cheesing PnR

[2_headedmonster]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

alright, now I want you to post a video of you shooting fades, leaners, and midrange jumpers off the dribble in nba2k16 in one game with durant on superstar/sim without cheesing PnR

As i mentioned 2k needs to improve its representation of creating separation, but i could do that. But what would that accomplish? Would that stop you or anyone else from complaining? I doubt it, it would more than likely go to the wayside like the many other dribble move example vids community members have posted.

[manu1433]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

As i mentioned 2k needs to improve its representation of creating separation, but i could do that. But what would that accomplish?

let's see it

I want you to do this without abusing spin moves as well

[2_headedmonster]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

let's see it

I want you to do this without abusing spin moves as well

you didnt answer my question. what would it accomplish besides you being a witness? Are you implying its impossible to do?

[manu1433]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

you didnt answer my question. what would it accomplish besides you being a witness? Are you implying its impossible to do?

I'm implying that I believe you aren't accomplishing anything by posting what real Durant is doing in a game because 2k isn't overly realistic

also, I want to see if you can do what you claim....

[2_headedmonster]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

I'm implying that I believe you aren't accomplishing anything by posting what real Durant is doing in a game because 2k isn't overly realistic

also, I want to see if you can do what you claim....

its realer than some would give it credit for since even Durant isnt blowing by defenders in ISO situations.

And thats not enough incentive. You essentially just want to just watch a clip of me playing 2k. Not worth the time. Im perfectly fine with you believing I cant do it. I have no interest in defending my skills at 2k on OS. Now if you had of said it was impossible, i would have bit.

[manu1433]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

its realer than some would give it credit for since even Durant isnt blowing by defenders in ISO situations.

And thats not enough incentive. You essentially just want to just watch a clip of me playing 2k. Not worth the time. Im perfectly fine with you believing I cant do it. I have no interest in defending my skills at 2k on OS. Now if you had of said it was impossible, i would have bit.

exactly what I expected

[Smirkin Dirk]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

alright, now I want you to post a video of you shooting fades, leaners, and midrange jumpers off the dribble in nba2k16 in one game with durant on superstar/sim without cheesing PnR

Do you know how to perform the X/square and left stick dribble separation moves?

[SPRINGS03]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Eh, there's most likely exaggerations on both sides(there will be guys saying everyone needs to get better and there's nothing wrong with the game, and others who blow a minor problem out of proportion).I will say, that with every 2k(at least in my experience) when i start off, i find it harder to score and get easier shots, but over time it gets gradually easier as i adapt to the style of the game.

Not saying warping or AI cheating doesn't happen(they do), i'm just saying i feel like it's something to take into account. There could definitely be some stuff that needs patching,but also give yourself a chance to adapt to the game as well.. Just my 2 cents, i haven't played nba 2k16 yet.

[manu1433]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

Do you know how to perform the X/square and left stick dribble separation moves?

I want to see a video of you guys on superstar/sim shooting off the dribble just as I described.

No spins, no picks. Iso moves without blowing past your defender just as in the Durant video. Leaners, Fades, and constested jumpers....just like Durant in the video. Got to be consistent too. I don't want any of this single play nonsense. Post a video of Durant taking over and consistently scoring over the course of a game just like that.

those step back 3's in that durant video look like they are gonna be super easy to make over the CPU lol

Don't worry about square/square turnarounds since they are pretty easy to get to fall.

Don't forget to show us your sliders before you start.

[2_headedmonster]

Re: There is nothing wrong with the CPU on-ball defense. Here are some tips....

I want to see a video of you guys on superstar/sim shooting off the dribble just as I described.

No spins, no picks. Iso moves without blowing past your defender just as in the Durant video. Leaners, Fades, and constested jumpers....just like Durant in the video

those step back 3's in that durant video look like they are gonna be super easy to make over the CPU lol

Don't worry about square/square turnarounds since they are pretty easy to get to fall.