Shot % Tweaks needed?

[DC]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

In my opinion advanced shots (step backs, fade aways, movement shots, hop steps, side steps, etc.) with the proper players should go in more often, other than that, I think the shooting game is wonderful (another thing are the fastbreaks and lead passes to the pain, way too overpowered but yes that's another topic...)

Cheers! ;-)

How often do they go in as it stands? What is your shooting percentage on step back jumpers? Have you kept track of these things or no?

[kabamaru]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I dont know if the 3pts were boosted again after the 1st boost but I just got in the practice gym and good shooters are finally receiving As quality more often on wide open threes. Definitely a welcomed siting.

Yeah, I have same feeling too

[donrellion600]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Hey beluba u have to fix contested 3pts in all areas except the pro am its not fun seeing contested 3s go in on ranked matches and wide open ones missed at the pro am

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[donrellion600]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

The game was fine shooting wise when it first came out i hate when a game is not easy for others and they cant take it so they conplain and want change the game was fine out the box shooting wise yea it can be fixed in other areas but shooting was fine

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[ItsJustaGame]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Try using punctuation

[cablexdeadpool]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I think open 3s need to go in a bit more in MyTeam.

From 1-4 I use

Conley/ Mo Williams
Eric Gordon/ KMart
Ariza/Morrow/Chandler
Dirk/Millsap/Love

My team shoots about 33-37% from deep on open shots. Morrow will go 0/3 on open 3s then he will hit a contested pull up 3 from 30 feet.

33-37 percent is normal for an NBA Team. The Rockets shot 34 percent from three as an entire team and they were around 14th in the league from three and took the most threes. LA Clippers were the second best team and they only shot 37 percent from three.

And you also have to take into account, on MYTEAM, you are playing against people that have stacked teams, you shooters probably gonna be guarded by top defenders throughout the entire game.

Three pointers are fine, I consistently shot around 38 percent before the adjustment from three and now I shoot into the 40s every single time.

[DC]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

We have ZERO context of your teams's shooting %

You can't just post the average ratings of your players and just expect them to shoot that. Stuff happens. We don't know what type of shots you are shooting.

Can you post videos?

Provide evidence other than stats. That isn't enough

[BluFu]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I'm not using a 'normal' team. Warriors were first at nearly 40% and Hawks were actually second at 38%. I have Eric Gordon (45%), Morrow (43%), Conley (39%), Martin (39%), Carroll(40%), Dirk (38%), Jimmy Butler (38%), Ross (37%), Patterson (37%), Beal (40%), Love (37%), Millsap (36%), Ariza (35%), Mo Williams (34%). I threw in all my players that are 3 point shooters this time since I'm always switching.

How does that compare to Houston who has Harden (38%), Terry (39%), D-Mo (37%), Beverley (36%), Smith (33%), Papa (29%), Brewer (28%) taking the most 3 pointers? It doesn't. A team like mine wouldn't be possible but it would surely be in the 40-43 % range, maybe even higher. I haven't even seen teams in the 3 Gold seeds stacked with defensive players. But even if there was, how would it effect me if I mainly take transition 3s and assisted catch and shoot jumpers? MyTeam is the only mode I have a problem with when it comes to shooting.

Just want to point out that if your team was to take the same amount of 3's and make them at theose exact rates, your team average would be 38.4%.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Beluba can you let us know if any actual changes are made?

[cablexdeadpool]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

I'm not using a 'normal' team. Warriors were first at nearly 40% and Hawks were actually second at 38%. I have Eric Gordon (45%), Morrow (43%), Conley (39%), Martin (39%), Carroll(40%), Dirk (38%), Jimmy Butler (38%), Ross (37%), Patterson (37%), Beal (40%), Love (37%), Millsap (36%), Ariza (35%), Mo Williams (34%). I threw in all my players that are 3 point shooters this time since I'm always switching.

How does that compare to Houston who has Harden (38%), Terry (39%), D-Mo (37%), Beverley (36%), Smith (33%), Papa (29%), Brewer (28%) taking the most 3 pointers? It doesn't. A team like mine wouldn't be possible but it would surely be in the 40-43 % range, maybe even higher. I haven't even seen teams in the 3 Gold seeds stacked with defensive players. But even if there was, how would it effect me if I mainly take transition 3s and assisted catch and shoot jumpers? MyTeam is the only mode I have a problem with when it comes to shooting.

How does it compare, you said you fluctatuate around 33 to 37 percent and you are complaining about you not being able to shoot higher than that.

You have not taken account Offensive Consistency rating, you have not taken account hotspots, you have not taken account defenders, you have not taken any of that into account, but you asking to shoot 42 percent a game.

People really need to track their shooting before complaining about not hitting enough threes. You need to record your games and track where you are shooting from, how much are you shooting from that spot and etc.


NBA Teams do not consistently hit threes. The three pointer is a high variance shot, no matter if you are open, no matter if it is catch and shoot, entire teams will not shoot 40 percent all once.

Basically you are saying, sometimes I shoot like a good three point shooting team in the league and sometimes I shoot like an average team...um that's normal.

Why don't you track your shooting and it probably averages out, instead of being knee jerk about it and think "If I am open, I should make them all the time like Stephen Curry."

The game was fine when it first came out and it's easier now to shoot threes.

If I can be a top three point shooting team playing with the Bulls on Ranked Matches and jacking threes, then I am sure anybody can do it on MyTeam where everybody's lineup can shoot.

I think people who complain about shooting threes in this game have a very twisted percent of how often three pointers fall in a game. They have a very twisted conception of the ratings. They don't know how the ratings go together with offensive consistency, hotspots and shot fatigue and they just jack threes and they miss them and then come here and complain. Then we have Patch 4.

A lot of three point shooters in NBA2K have a rather low offensive consistency rating, they are not gonna make threes all the damn time.

If you are not shooting with Klay Thompson, Stephen Curry or Kevin Durant or Kyle Korver or Kyrie Irving, you are not gonna make threes every singe time you are open.

[BluFu]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

How did you get that number? You can't make an average by adding percentages and then dividing. . I just tried with the Warriors and I got 34% which is 6% off. You would have to find the number of makes and attempts for each player which wouldn't make sense since here because I would be taking higher quality shots then they would take in real life.

I did exactly that.. maybe I didn't word this right, but what I was trying to say is if *each member of your team* shot the same amount that would be your team result. I know how percentages work lol. It's just something to keep in mind since you made a (seemingly) random average.

[BluFu]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

PNO and MyTeam are not the same mode. It's easier to shoot in PNO compared to MyTeam. Eric Gordon and Morrow are in the same class as Korver, Curry, and Klay and are better 3 point shooters than Kyrie and KD. In fact, Gordon was the 3rd best shooter in the league at 45% and Morrow was 7th at 43% so your last point doesn't make much sense unless you're agreeing with me. Neither of them have cold spots in the corner or the top of the arc btw. I can go into PNO and shoot the lights out with them regardless of consistency. Klay has 98 Off Con and he still shoots it like everyone else on my team.

How does wanting my team of elite shooters to shoot like elite shooters means I jack up shots and want to make everything? I wanted to shoot in the low 40s on open shots with elite shooters which somehow means I want patch 4 where I could shoot in the 60s-80s? Golden State just shot 40% for the season. Remind me why I shouldn't be able to shoot a higher percentage than them with my current team? Once again, this is not an average NBA team, they should not play like one. 3 pointers are consistent if you can get open ones with sharpshooters.

Anyways, Golden State is not a good example. You have to consider that Klay and Curry alone accounted for roughly 59% of the team's total makes. They both shot around 44% (which is insane). The rest of the team as a whole shot about 35%.. So unless you want to milk Eric Gordon and Anthony Morrow from deep (yeah not a good idea), you probably won't be able to replicate Golden State's shooting performance.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Beluba can you let us know if any actual changes are made?

This is what I want to know. Have they already been changing things?

I've gotten the notifications to back out to the main menu to update the game, but I don't know what they changed. Anecdotally, it feels like 3's go down a lot more than they used to, and interior scoring is much easier than it was on release day

[yonly1ME]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

Honestly, I wish the shooting % were back to day 1 (the 25th) and the 3 pt % increase from the 1st shooting tweak (+3% from day 1 according to Beluba).

IMO I think it would be a happy medium for most, but I could be wrong.

[cablexdeadpool]

Re: Shot % Tweaks needed?

PNO and MyTeam are not the same mode. It's easier to shoot in PNO compared to MyTeam. Eric Gordon and Morrow are in the same class as Korver, Curry, and Klay and are better 3 point shooters than Kyrie and KD. In fact, Gordon was the 3rd best shooter in the league at 45% and Morrow was 7th at 43% so your last point doesn't make much sense unless you're agreeing with me. Neither of them have cold spots in the corner or the top of the arc btw. I can go into PNO and shoot the lights out with them regardless of consistency. Klay has 98 Off Con and he still shoots it like everyone else on my team.

How does wanting my team of elite shooters to shoot like elite shooters means I jack up shots and want to make everything? I wanted to shoot in the low 40s on open shots with elite shooters which somehow means I want patch 4 where I could shoot in the 60s-80s? Golden State just shot 40% for the season. Remind me why I shouldn't be able to shoot a higher percentage than them with my current team? Once again, this is not an average NBA team, they should not play like one. 3 pointers are consistent if you can get open ones with sharpshooters.

Dude Anthony Morrow has a 70 offensive consistent rating, Kyle Korver has a 95 offensive rating...

Meaning Kyle Korver shots are more likely and more often will go in than Anthony Morrow.

Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant are automatic from 3 if you know their shot, shoot from their hotspot, and wide open, they can and most likely will be more automatic than Anthony Morrow just due to Offensive Consistency. If you know what you are doing, you could not miss with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant.

This what I am saying. People will go look at the ratings and see 88 3pt shot and think it should go in when wide open and they'll miss some shots and go cold and then say 3 point shooting is broken.

And seriously, I don't have problems shooting on MYTEAM either and I have Klay Thompson and Eric Gordon and I jack threes with them and make them at an absurd rate. I never had problems with shooting 3s period. I played the same way with Patch 4, the same way I did when 2K16 first dropped. Which is why I don't understand these shooting complaints.

Like I said, you just thought you gonna assemble the best 3point shooters in the game and jack threes and basketball doesn't work that way. 2K without Patch 4 never worked that way.

Unless you gonna jack 8 threes a game with Eric Gordon and Anthony Morrow, you not gonna get 40 percent from three, just because you got every three point shooter in MyTeam. You basically saying, "I wanna shoot like no other NBA Team ever has shot from 3."

Maybe you just can't shoot and you need to practice. You probably need to track your threes and figure out where you are shooting from and get a real average. It's really just all in your head.