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  • mauro78
    Ion6 Studios
    • Jan 2006
    • 616

    #76
    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

    Originally posted by jfsolo
    OG doesn't seem to respond to those kinds of questions on Twitter, which is his prerogative of course.
    That's why we Twitted every Dev to come here and explain this setting and If will be patched...I think @ this point some explanations are needed....of course they can reject this requests no problem

    I mean I personally love 2k series....and with Double on AUTO 2k16 is a stellar game

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    • sirjam
      MVP
      • Oct 2002
      • 3535

      #77
      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

      Originally posted by jfsolo
      OG doesn't seem to respond to those kinds of questions on Twitter, which is his prerogative of course.
      OG and I were talking at first. I told him about my MJ season. He said can you provide me proof bc MJ should be triggering the CPU to double. I provided a video along with multiple box scores of various people. Since the crickets, haven't heard nothing. Something interesting during the press row podcast. OG says I will have intel on what your doing Rich, I see everything and will shut that down. Almost implying that how we play will report back to 2k and that the CPU will adjust to our individual play style. That's not word for word what he said but I can't remember exact words. I do remember this though. No more dumping it to the post and cheesing your way to the ship Rich.
      Well without double on auto. That's exactly what you can do. So idk if there's a bug in the system or if this is indeed bc the post is set to manual. But for now on auto is a workaround if nothing else. Also if you play my league you still get vc even if you switch sides.

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      • Impetuous65
        MVP
        • Feb 2015
        • 1451

        #78
        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

        Originally posted by sirjam
        OG and I were talking at first. I told him about my MJ season. He said can you provide me proof bc MJ should be triggering the CPU to double. I provided a video along with multiple box scores of various people. Since the crickets, haven't heard nothing. Something interesting during the press row podcast. OG says I will have intel on what your doing Rich, I see everything and will shut that down. Almost implying that how we play will report back to 2k and that the CPU will adjust to our individual play style. That's not word for word what he said but I can't remember exact words. I do remember this though. No more dumping it to the post and cheesing your way to the ship Rich.
        Well without double on auto. That's exactly what you can do. So idk if there's a bug in the system or if this is indeed bc the post is set to manual. But for now on auto is a workaround if nothing else. Also if you play my league you still get vc even if you switch sides.
        I remember that podcast. I just think he's embarrased for all the bloviating and none what he said or wrote came to fruition. Adaptive Coaching Engine is virtually non existent as well as all those adjustments. So a non response is his agreement. Beluba with his living worlds is a crap shoot. The only thing working is the offense.

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        • JoFri
          Pro
          • Mar 2013
          • 1486

          #79
          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

          sirjam, are u able to let him know the clippers defensive setting? i'm playing okc and cpu clips has cp3 "hardcode" to guard kd in the matchup settings. its been like that since 2k release until now. it happens in myleague.

          i definitely think this is a bug and not done on purpose. the cpu should rely on ACE to apply the best defensive strategy. besides, it never happen in real nba that cp3 is assigned to guard the best offensive player of the opponent.


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          • rjohns23
            Pro
            • Sep 2010
            • 656

            #80
            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

            Originally posted by Impetuous65
            I remember that podcast. I just think he's embarrased for all the bloviating and none what he said or wrote came to fruition. Adaptive Coaching Engine is virtually non existent as well as all those adjustments. So a non response is his agreement. Beluba with his living worlds is a crap shoot. The only thing working is the offense.
            He shouldnt be embarrassed. If anything he should let his customers know that he is aware of the issue. Just think when 2k17 comes out and hes talking about this and that are we (meaning sim guys) going to really take stock in what the devs are saying? For me its going to be i believe when i see it. Only because no one (devs) i mean no one is talking about the issues with ACE.

            I mean im in business and if my product or service is not working correctly or as adverstised its my DUTY to let my customers that i hear them and that Ill address the issue. Im not saying that he has to say or explain anything. Its just good business practice. Especially when sirjam sent him the evidence as requested.

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            • sirjam
              MVP
              • Oct 2002
              • 3535

              #81
              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

              Originally posted by JoFri
              sirjam, are u able to let him know the clippers defensive setting? i'm playing okc and cpu clips has cp3 "hardcode" to guard kd in the matchup settings. its been like that since 2k release until now. it happens in myleague.

              i definitely think this is a bug and not done on purpose. the cpu should rely on ACE to apply the best defensive strategy. besides, it never happen in real nba that cp3 is assigned to guard the best offensive player of the opponent.


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              I did. I jus feel like it's not working properly. Here's some things I noticed early that suggests hardcoding. Played hawks vs GS. Thompson guarded Teague. Spurs vs rockets. Kawai guarded Lawson not Harden. And the most crazy thing classic my league MJ guarded Mugsy Bouges. Also in that league I avg 40 some with MJ and had some 60 70 pt games. Never a double and I posted everytime with MJ. That's before I made the double suggestion.

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              • TarHeelPhenom
                All Star
                • Jul 2002
                • 7116

                #82
                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                I bel I eve its been fixed. Just cranked the game up...doing cpu vs cpu. I switched the controller to both sides and went into coaching sliders and they were all set to AUTO.
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                • sirjam
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3535

                  #83
                  Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                  Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
                  I bel I eve its been fixed. Just cranked the game up...doing cpu vs cpu. I switched the controller to both sides and went into coaching sliders and they were all set to AUTO.
                  Really? How did it play?

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                  • bcruise
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23274

                    #84
                    Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                    Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
                    I bel I eve its been fixed. Just cranked the game up...doing cpu vs cpu. I switched the controller to both sides and went into coaching sliders and they were all set to AUTO.
                    Can not confirm this on the PC version, FWIW. Both teams still set to Manual when entering a CPU vs CPU.

                    Just to make sure, what teams did you use?

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                    • TarHeelPhenom
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7116

                      #85
                      Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                      Originally posted by bcruise
                      Can not confirm this on the PC version, FWIW. Both teams still set to Manual when entering a CPU vs CPU.

                      Just to make sure, what teams did you use?

                      I have the PC version and can confirm that they are now set to auto. Now i will say that again im doing cpu vs cpu. I dont know if that matters. Im also still watching to see any difference.
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                      • mauro78
                        Ion6 Studios
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 616

                        #86
                        Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                        Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
                        I have the PC version and can confirm that they are now set to auto. Now i will say that again im doing cpu vs cpu. I dont know if that matters. Im also still watching to see any difference.
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                        • TarHeelPhenom
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7116

                          #87
                          Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                          Originally posted by mauro78
                          Last game update and latest roster?

                          There was an update when i cranked it up tonight and im using opening night roster.
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                          • mauro78
                            Ion6 Studios
                            • Jan 2006
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                            #88
                            Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                            Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
                            There was an update when i cranked it up tonight and im using opening night roster.
                            I will check later then ^_^

                            Can you try CPU vs Human and check if Double Teams are on AUTO or MANUAL ?
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                            • TarHeelPhenom
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #89
                              Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                              Originally posted by mauro78
                              I will check later then ^_^

                              Can you try CPU vs Human and check if Double Teams are on AUTO or MANUAL ?


                              10-4 I did Human vs. CPU and they were all on Auto.
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                              • mauro78
                                Ion6 Studios
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 616

                                #90
                                Re: CPU AI Defensive Plan Fix for DT and Help Defense

                                Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
                                10-4 I did Human vs. CPU and they were all on Auto.
                                Thanks!

                                I mean all on AUTO?

                                Coach Sliders and Defensive Settings (Double Team Post/Perimeter)?
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