Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

[KingKoopaKnicca]

Re: Player Archetypes NBA 2k17

Now, what happens to 'above average' defenders when they are matched against 'high tier' or 'elite' players?

Your 'above average' defensive stats are going to be asked to stop 'high tier' and 'elite' (all based on their archetype) offensive players. Your 'above average' rating is going to be facing off against 'high tier' and 'elite' shooter and/or slashers. And, if the video is indeed correct, every position outside of LDs/Rim Protectors and Glass Eaters are going to be 'above average' on defense, facing off against 'high tier' and 'elite' shooter (off the dribble and/or sharpshooters) and slashers.

See where I'm going with this?

Not really bro. If and when I get my lockdown defender to have Hall of Fame badges for all his defensive badges and at least a bronze pick dodger and bronze pickpocket. ALL SO CALLED Elite tier and high tier OFFENSIVE PLAYERS have met the CLAMP GOD. Nuff Said. The things that make you High tier and Elite are all negated by my badges plus I lower your offensive ratings whether your on the perimeter or in the post... I'm not even going to get into how important stamina is now and me having BRUISER. I'm simply repeating myself at this point... If you don't see it. You don't see it. *shrug*

Edit: I also might have misconstrued where you were going with "this." Are you pointing out that since "everyone else" will have a 74 defensive rating, and thats 20 points less than last year, the fact that they now have to guard people with Hall of Fame badges will cause the game to technically be an OFEENSIVE FEST when not facing an Lockdown Defender or Rim Protector. That might also be your point. Lemme know what your trying to say cuz I'm missing the point. Spit/spell it out for slow old me.

[KingKoopaKnicca]

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Do the weights affect body type, or will everyone have the same build regardless of weight?

Yes weight affects body type. Adding weight increases strength, decreases speed, increases contact dunk, decreases lateral quickness, increases box out and decreases speed with ball, decreases vertical and decreases acceleration.

Edit: Maybe you meant body type as in HOW IT LOOKS, my slow *** lol... umm yea you get a little thicker with weight but it's not drastic or really very noticeable, it's more subtle and you definitely can't be obese/fat Would have been interesting...

[KoolAidNoSugar]

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Playmaker looks like the best build for a guard from the videos I've seen. I'm going with 6'4-6'6 Playmaker PG or SG.

The shooting is sub par according to @KiingxDooms on Twitter


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[just Mudiay]

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HAHAHAHA! 2K is finally giving Denver some love by giving the name "Denver Levins" to an undrafted rookie?! BEST 2K EVER! THANK YOU #NUGGETSNATION

btw: can I just control that guy instead?

[Rip4ever]

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Not really bro. If and when I get my lockdown defender to have Hall of Fame badges for all his defensive badges and at least a bronze pick dodger and bronze pickpocket. ALL SO CALLED Elite tier and high tier OFFENSIVE PLAYERS have met the CLAMP GOD. Nuff Said. The things that make you High tier and Elite are all negated by my badges plus I lower your offensive ratings whether your on the perimeter or in the post... I'm not even going to get into how important stamina is now and me having BRUISER. I'm simply repeating myself at this point... If you don't see it. You don't see it. *shrug*

Edit: I also might have misconstrued where you were going with "this." Are you pointing out that since "everyone else" will have a 74 defensive rating, and thats 20 points less than last year, the fact that they now have to guard people with Hall of Fame badges will cause the game to technically be an OFEENSIVE FEST when not facing an Lockdown Defender or Rim Protector. That might also be your point. Lemme know what your trying to say cuz I'm missing the point. Spit/spell it out for slow old me.

You are just one player. They will just play around you and ignore you when you are on offense. You are like the goalie in a hockey game.

[Nine.Six.Melo]

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You are just one player. They will just play around you and ignore you when you are on offense. You are like the goalie in a hockey game.

the most important position in the sport?

[Nine.Six.Melo]

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That's a post scorer vs athletic finisher right ? I'm having the same debate. It'll be big. If history tells us anything those athletic players tend to do better in 2k compared to more finesse post up players.

this might be the difference between Anthony Davis and LaMarcus Aldridge in terms of play style.

[KingKoopaKnicca]

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You are just one player. They will just play around you and ignore you when you are on offense. You are like the goalie in a hockey game.

Son if someone ignores me, doesnt box me out, and lets me cut to the basket EZ. Guess what I'll grab boards, and I'll score on easy layups/dunks... Simple as that... Thats on half court, in transition... since I move fastest w/ out the ball... I'll run my lane get the ball and finish. And if I manage to get tip ins and steals... guess what. I'll score...

Now when I'm on defense. YOU WONT SCORE. Simple game, can I score more than what I lock you down for. Like I mentioned earlier, when the GRAND BADGE happens to activate after a couple of blocks, steals or charges taken it's like being on FIRE defensively in NBA Jam... lol no ONE will score on me then. I'll probably get MORE blocks and steals during that WINDOW and guess what... I'll score... off the steal/fastbreak.

And also nah I got a buddy who will also be a lockdown defender, so I'm not only one guy. The key is to matchup against their offensive playmakers... and offensive threats.

I find it entertaining when people make simple arguments that honestly show their lack of basketball knowledge.

[Rip4ever]

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Son if someone ignores me, doesnt box me out, and lets me cut to the basket EZ. Guess what I'll grab boards, and I'll score on easy layups/dunks... Simple as that... Thats on half court, in transition... since I move fastest w/ out the ball... I'll run my lane get the ball and finish. And if I manage to get tip ins and steals... guess what. I'll score...

Now when I'm on defense. YOU WONT SCORE. Simple game, can I score more than what I lock you down for. Like I mentioned earlier, when the GRAND BADGE happens to activate after a couple of blocks, steals or charges taken it's like being on FIRE defensively in NBA Jam... lol no ONE will score on me then. I'll probably get MORE blocks and steals during that WINDOW and guess what... I'll score... off the steal/fastbreak.

And also nah I got a buddy who will also be a lockdown defender, so I'm not only one guy. The key is to matchup against their offensive playmakers... and offensive threats.

I find it entertaining when people make simple arguments that honestly show their lack of basketball knowledge.

It has nothing to do with basketball knowledge. It has to do with 2K knowledge an seeing that lockdown defenders will have crappy offense so they can be a tad bit better than all the offensive players at defense.

I was born a hoosier, I can assure you there is nothing wrong with my basketball knowledge. In the end I am more than happy to wait for the game to come out and we can enjoy finding out that lockdown defender is hands down the worst type. Till then.

[KingKoopaKnicca]

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It has nothing to do with basketball knowledge. It has to do with 2K knowledge an seeing that lockdown defenders will have crappy offense so they can be a tad bit better than all the offensive players at defense.

I was born a hoosier, I can assure you there is nothing wrong with my basketball knowledge. In the end I am more than happy to wait for the game to come out and we can enjoy finding out that lockdown defender is hands down the worst type. Till then.

You care to make some money? (wanna bet?) I WAS WRONG LAST-TIME I wanted to bet... EZ $20 Giftcard... I'll give to you if they ARE THE WORST, LOL. I hope you really believe that but yea honestly. I'm "Mr. Could Be Wrong", you should BET me, you got nothing to loose, only possibly gain some cash cuz I don't know what I'm talking about.

Maxed out Strength, Agility, Defense is not a TAD bit better defensively especially with all the defensive badges. YOUR REALLY BLIND... you can't see balance in how the devs made these archetypes. Your comparing 15/25 defense to 25/25 defense. 74 vs 94... thats not TAD BIT better not to mention all the badges and the mentality that I pride myself on D so I will be well practiced and on point. It's my bread and butter, if I don't play good D I wont score. But if I play good D, box-out, rebound move w/out the ball, set picks. Not only will a lot of good things happen for my team. ILL SCORE. It's not that hard to understand.

[KingKoopaKnicca]

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It has nothing to do with basketball knowledge. It has to do with 2K knowledge an seeing that lockdown defenders will have crappy offense so they can be a tad bit better than all the offensive players at defense.

I was born a hoosier, I can assure you there is nothing wrong with my basketball knowledge. In the end I am more than happy to wait for the game to come out and we can enjoy finding out that lockdown defender is hands down the worst type. Till then.

Just to relate this to some basketball History. Go tell HALL OF FAMERS DENNIS RODMAN & BEN WALLACE that they brought NO VALUE to their teams. You obviously don't understand basketball. No one cares if you were born a hoosier. Whoopty-do!

[Caelumfang]

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Not really bro. If and when I get my lockdown defender to have Hall of Fame badges for all his defensive badges and at least a bronze pick dodger and bronze pickpocket. ALL SO CALLED Elite tier and high tier OFFENSIVE PLAYERS have met the CLAMP GOD. Nuff Said. The things that make you High tier and Elite are all negated by my badges plus I lower your offensive ratings whether your on the perimeter or in the post... I'm not even going to get into how important stamina is now and me having BRUISER. I'm simply repeating myself at this point... If you don't see it. You don't see it. *shrug*

Edit: I also might have misconstrued where you were going with "this." Are you pointing out that since "everyone else" will have a 74 defensive rating, and thats 20 points less than last year, the fact that they now have to guard people with Hall of Fame badges will cause the game to technically be an OFEENSIVE FEST when not facing an Lockdown Defender or Rim Protector. That might also be your point. Lemme know what your trying to say cuz I'm missing the point. Spit/spell it out for slow old me.

The last paragraph is exactly my point.

As far as the first paragraph: You are simply one person. Even if you are a so-called 'Clamp God', you can't guard everyone on the floor at the same time. If you have your man clamped, everyone else on the floor will have field days due to facing off against opponents with worse defensive ratings than James Harden.

[Leasim96]

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Lockdown defenders will indeed be trash (lowkey just wants to be one of the only guys with one). I already said it like 10times before - the effectiveness of lockdown defender will depend on the games balance. We can't be talking as if we know their gonna suck - some negative vibes or maybe just lack of faith in 2k. Eitherway just because you're choosing an offensive build doesn't mean you'll be better guaranteed - you'll just have an easier time on offense. What i hope is yall suck on D (Getting a bit vicious). Nah but i do hope there's balance. 3 days to go.

[KingKoopaKnicca]

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The last paragraph is exactly my point.

As far as the first paragraph: You are simply one person. Even if you are a so-called 'Clamp God', you can't guard everyone on the floor at the same time. If you have your man clamped, everyone else on the floor will have field days due to facing off against opponents with worse defensive ratings than James Harden.

That cant seriously be your point. Yes I am only one person but Id be guarding the other teams best offensive player. And I also have another buddy with a similar build. As far as the rest of the team, we meed some sort of playmaker, some sort of sharpshooter. And the last could be a wildcard. Its a team game so why in the hell are you bringing up the point that im only one person. LOL smh. If we negate your best offensive players. Do I have to explain how that is an advantage? Look dont play 2k if you dont really understand basketball. Honestly.

[Leasim96]

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The last paragraph is exactly my point.

As far as the first paragraph: You are simply one person. Even if you are a so-called 'Clamp God', you can't guard everyone on the floor at the same time. If you have your man clamped, everyone else on the floor will have field days due to facing off against opponents with worse defensive ratings than James Harden.

25 Agility and 25 Defense can very well guarantee off ball defensive presence. I think people tend to forget to take every aspect into account. Not to mention things like Defensive centers - the opponent getting scored on too. I think when it comes to lockdown defender a lot of people are being close minded IMO.