NBA 2K17 Impressions Thread
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I'm playing as the celtics. The guy above saying all that stuff is improved it is. The interactions between players is amazing to me. There are some graphical hiccups but i havent seen much at all. Usually its because of the added interactions and physics the graphics just arent fully there. I think one game I saw a few things happen though. That's it.
Yeah if you guys are playing some ridiculous way the ai may seem wonky. When I first started playing and was playing like past years and not adjusting i was getting beat pretty good.
The celtics admittantly have strong perimeter defenders but that's the whole point. Not everyone can defend Curry. Other teams are going to have to beat them in different ways.
I don't see it as an issue either. I'll play as a different team and take that into account.
How often do teams shoot 30 percent anyways? It happens but not that often. I've only played 10 games or so so far.
Even the celtics will lose players on screens if i don't pay attention and realize what the other team is doing.
The best defenders aren't going to beat every screen by themselves. You have to watch and anticipate and understand what players do and the plays being called. Deny certain players the ball etc. Help where breakdowns may occur etc... Realize certain players can shoot over you etc..Last edited by celtics6; 09-28-2016, 12:27 PM.Comment
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Like i said in another post this game is about controlling pace as much as anything. It's a battle. If you let teams just do what they do they are going to kill you some games. Other times not so much which I like too. You have take advantage of situations and play pace. Some teams will fight against that more than others and not let you do that and you have to play matchups etc. I'm not just saying simply you take the best guy against their worst guy either. You have you recognize what certain players can do and how they match up.
I'm playing as the celtics who aren't the most star laden team but I understand how they defend and what they do. I'm like brad stevens out there and I play like them.
Players will make plays if you let them and you can turn that in your favor and play to your strength. TEams dont just roll over but you have to understand how teams play.
It's honestly not that hard. I'm not even micromanaging overly. I just understand basketball and that the AI is more human this year.
If you look at this game like a video game and try to just like overly do it that way its not going to work. The AI is actually smart.
If you are trying too hard it's not good and something you are doing wrong. Just feel it. I don't know how to explain it.
If you try to cheese it its not going to work.
Past years I could basically run up and down the court and just keep doing the same stuff over and over. This year is not like that. I actually have to play off guys with isaiah and use his dribble moves and get in the paint and draw fouls and all that.
I have to be aware that Klay is taller than Bradley and defend him as such and that he will shoot and drive and come off screens. I have to be aware of that when bradley is shooting as well.
Dallas will allow you to run and gun if you play them. GS will lull you to sleep then start coming off crazy screens and bury you if you aren't aware. Durant will push off in the open court and get wide open layups if i just leave him there with Crowder. Crowder is a really good defender but you have to aware that Durant does that.
If I drive with Bradley the defense will react and Horford will get open etc.. Teams will react to the hot guy and who is shooting well and react too.
It's hard to explain but I'm not doing anything that complicated. I'm just playing basketball and aware of my surroundings.Last edited by celtics6; 09-28-2016, 12:45 PM.Comment
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If you give durant layups he's going to shoot 80 percent. You have to be aware of what he does to create space. He will miss shots.
GS basically has Curry and Klay and Durant kind of plays off them pushing off and creating space in the open. You have to watch that. He'll also come off screens for the shot like he does in real life.
It's not that complicated. What I like about this year is it actually makes sense and you can get them out of their game and they won't do that. They are going to score regardless but if you hold them down enough it and play pace yourself and use mismatches and keep the pressure on it becomes like a chess match.
You'll start to see your players start to make plays and it's beautiful.Last edited by celtics6; 09-28-2016, 12:51 PM.Comment
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Dude your talking about basic basketball term. I want my games to play a certain way. I want my percentage DOWN. And I'm talking down in the low 30's.....I brought my sliders down to 25 on offense and games are still high. What you don't get here is that we no longer have control of the game. Which in a way is probly why they took out simulation options. This game is no longer a game where we can stabilize our statistics as we want. The AI hits almost every open shot, which is unrealistic. Watching the game on TV is more of a stale round by round fight. This 2k17 is a free for all run and gun.....There is no way around this. Sure I can play the game and have fun. But I'm a stats freak. You take away my stats you take away the sport of basketball.
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I think I'm threw. I tried.....and I don't want to wait for a patch. The damage was done. Because if this is the product that they tested and wanted to give us. Then they should know that this is the wrong way to go.Comment
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Dude your talking about basic basketball term. I want my games to play a certain way. I want my percentage DOWN. And I'm talking down in the low 30's.....I brought my sliders down to 25 on offense and games are still high. What you don't get here is that we no longer have control of the game. Which in a way is probly why they took out simulation options. This game is no longer a game where we can stabilize our statistics as we want. The AI hits almost every open shot, which is unrealistic. Watching the game on TV is more of a stale round by round fight. This 2k17 is a free for all run and gun.....There is no way around this. Sure I can play the game and have fun. But I'm a stats freak. You take away my stats you take away the sport of basketball.
Thumbs down...god I cant believe I'm saying this
I think I'm threw. I tried.....and I don't want to wait for a patch. The damage was done. Because if this is the product that they tested and wanted to give us. Then they should know that this is the wrong way to go.My 2K17 Boston Celtics MyLeague
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Those two statements do not correlate.
And in what world is the NBA today a stale round by round fight? Aside from Memphis, that style of play is extinct.
It's all about ball movement, player movement, and spacing today.Comment
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I just downloaded the patch and played a couple games. This game was absolutely perfect out of the box. I didn't notice a huge difference. I hope they didn't screw it up though. If anything i did notice a little less variety and like shooting was easier and it was more difficult to beat your man defenses tighter etc... I was playing the grizzlies though and they are a good defensive team and play pretty straightforward. Passes seemed more crisp. This game was perfect out of the box imo so hope they didn't breathe on it wrong but now all of you are in my head. I did notice the ball go right through my guy once where before i was seeing the ball bouncing all over the place fumbled passes etc and just a ton of variety.
I tried a different team and played as the nets against the sixers first game. 2nd game was celtics vs grizzlies. It was fine. Probably the most glitchy stuff ive noticed though.
I hope 2k isn't listening to you guys and screwing the game up. This game was perfect. It's probably my imagination though.
1st game both teams shot 50 percent. 2nd game they shot 50 percent and i shot 40 against the grizz.
Seemed like there were less points in the paint and better shooting. Overall I didn't notice much difference at all though. The passing seemed more arcadey. I was seeing a ton of variety out of the box. These 2 games seemed a little more straightforward like past years and has me worried. Don't do it 2k.Last edited by celtics6; 09-28-2016, 03:59 PM.Comment
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I just downloaded the patch and played a couple games. This game was absolutely perfect out of the box. I didn't notice a huge difference. I hope they didn't screw it up though. If anything i did notice a little less variety and like shooting was easier and it was more difficult to beat your man defenses tighter etc... I was playing the grizzlies though and they are a good defensive team and play pretty straightforward. Passes seemed more crisp. This game was perfect out of the box imo so hope they didn't breathe on it wrong but now all of you are in my head. I did notice the ball go right through my guy once where before i was seeing the ball bouncing all over the place fumbled passes etc and just a ton of variety.
I tried a different team and played as the nets against the sixers first game. 2nd game was celtics vs grizzlies. It was fine. Probably the most glitchy stuff ive noticed though.
I hope 2k isn't listening to you guys and screwing the game up. This game was perfect. It's probably my imagination though.
1st game both teams shot 50 percent. 2nd game they shot 50 percent and i shot 40 against the grizz.
Seemed like there were less points in the paint and better shooting. Overall I didn't notice much difference at all though. The passing seemed more arcadey. I was seeing a ton of variety out of the box. These 2 games seemed a little more straightforward like past years and has me worried. Don't do it 2k.
OK we get it you love the game so much and sleep in bed with it. You're cluttering the impression thread with way to many of your long post having a boner. People are trying to read other ppl's impressions not just yours.Comment
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What's that man? How about you get out of here. Loser. Back up that ****. That's what I said too I said you are a loser and dumb as **** and a waste of space. Learn how to read.Last edited by celtics6; 09-28-2016, 04:47 PM.Comment
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Come guys lets not get into personal back and forth this is about making the game the best it can be not about making a point or winning argument
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I don't know what he expects when he says something like that and didn't even read what I actually said. Tired of people who take things the wrong way on the internets.. I'll just say it flat out. I don't care. I agree though. lol. Yes I wrote a lot. I realize other people have things to say. I just had a lot to say apparently. Was enjoying the game but hope they don't "fix it" to the point where we are back to square one and the same game. I was enjoying how different defenders defend differently and players pass the ball more realistically vs bullet passes on the move when surrounded by 3 guys. Shooting also seems to have seen a bump.Last edited by celtics6; 09-28-2016, 05:48 PM.Comment
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There are no moving foul screens it appears. Last year was once in a blue moon, this year I haven't seen one. Add in charges also. I've seen like a push with the off arm while dribbling for an offensive foul, but zero actual defender gets in a charge stance and takes a charge. Weren't there charges in like very early versions of 2K? With all the assorted crazy improvements to realism, how could something as simple as charges disappear?
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There are no moving foul screens it appears. Last year was once in a blue moon, this year I haven't seen one. Add in charges also. I've seen like a push with the off arm while dribbling for an offensive foul, but zero actual defender gets in a charge stance and takes a charge. Weren't there charges in like very early versions of 2K? With all the assorted crazy improvements to realism, how could something as simple as charges disappear?
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Well I got called for a charge. And guess when. When the freakin AI went on this crazy comeback cheese glitch. All of a sudden I'm getting charge calls, missing passes, turnovers for only pump faking the ball...This game is special one I tell yaComment
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