Post patch sliders and shooting %

[aspeheat]

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I played 10 more ProAm games tonight as a Sharpshooter and although things are better than yesterday, they are still very bad.

I averaged around 15 PPG tonight on ~40% from the field. 90% of my shots were wide open, while I also took some contested shots at the end of shot clock/quarters.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, is a glitched shot meter. Last night I posted on here after going 1/13 in the game and I was told to "compensate" for the input delay. So alright, I was doing it tonight, and although I would sometimes score 20+ points on high shooting percentage, it seemed that my shots mostly depend on luck, not skill.

When I release the shot, it would give me either B+ or B-, nothing else, unless it's a perfect release. I would basically hold square to shoot and then pray that I get a green release. If I don't, it would usually be a brick. It was frustrating as we faced some good teams and one game went into overtime. At one point, I just said that we run plays for our slasher as my shot is not reliable and it can go either way, no matter how wide open I am.

On the other side, my friend who is a slasher was averaging 30+ points while shooting over 80% from the field and rarely missing a corner 3. So much about realism.

Hopefully we will get a shot meter fix soon. I tried shooting with both button and the stick, and neither was good.

[Leasim96]

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I played 10 more ProAm games tonight as a Sharpshooter and although things are better than yesterday, they are still very bad.

I averaged around 15 PPG tonight on ~40% from the field. 90% of my shots were wide open, while I also took some contested shots at the end of shot clock/quarters.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, is a glitched shot meter. Last night I posted on here after going 1/13 in the game and I was told to "compensate" for the input delay. So alright, I was doing it tonight, and although I would sometimes score 20+ points on high shooting percentage, it seemed that my shots mostly depend on luck, not skill.

When I release the shot, it would give me either B+ or B-, nothing else, unless it's a perfect release. I would basically hold square to shoot and then pray that I get a green release. If I don't, it would usually be a brick. It was frustrating as we faced some good teams and one game went into overtime. At one point, I just said that we run plays for our slasher as my shot is not reliable and it can go either way, no matter how wide open I am.

On the other side, my friend who is a slasher was averaging 30+ points while shooting over 80% from the field and rarely missing a corner 3. So much about realism.

Hopefully we will get a shot meter fix soon. I tried shooting with both button and the stick, and neither was good.

Try changing the jumpshot - it's notorious that some jump shots are broken every year.

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[Simhead23]

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I played on park for awhile with my stretch big and a sharpshooter. I have all hof badges except pick and popper and he has all hof badges with naxed out shooting. I shot about 45% percent while he shot about 50. He had games where he was ,6/8 and 4/13 and same was for me, although the volume of shots of 3s I took were less cause getting open with a stretch big is tricky. I think shooting is perfect. I seen playmakers rain 3s too, but they were.wideee open.

In my opinion, shooting for sharpshooters are fine. So are stretch bigs. Sharpshooters have the speed to get open, and 9/10 times when they're open they will still punish you. Same for stretch bigs. Ive missed shots, but my percentage always rounded to the early 40s, late 30s, or even 60 in a rare game!

Shooting is still harder though because if you're not wideeeeee open, your shot quality is like a D+. It doesn't matter who contest you, a point guard can contest me and I still brick. That's not good. Point guards should barley effect a 7'3 center, so it's annoying I cant punish those lil midgets who try to take on me instead of letting the bigman guard me.

Look, I'm cool with missing open shots, but the contest mechanics are kinda broken. Nba players can shoot with a little bit of space needed. When someone is 5 feet infront of you, barley closing out, and not even putting a hands up, you shouldn't get penalized, not when someone is behind you. And many times I get a weird fadeaway animation for no reason when someone is next to me when I shoot. That show only happen before I release.my shot not when I'm already set for the motion and gathering.


Overall, shooting is fine, but the contesting takes getting used to, especially for builds with low shooting ratings, since the shooting is already lower across the boards.

[aspeheat]

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Try changing the jumpshot - it's notorious that some jump shots are broken every year.

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I was using Klay Thompson's jumpshot then switched to Ray Allen, but I had the same issue. But yes, it's a good idea, I will try a few more and see if it fixes it.

I remember last year my jump shot would be money, then all of sudden it would stop working, crazy. Hopefully they do something about it.

[ataman5]

Post patch sliders and shooting %

What is not fine is passing speed that's why most herky jerky things happening ball doesn't weigh and don't really travel on the air most of the time it goes a point to b point in bullet speed and players teleport to get the ball. The passing speed was perfect pre-patch. And i know i'm repeating myself here. Because that's the only thing atm that's left uncertain.


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[Caelumfang]

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I was using Klay Thompson's jumpshot then switched to Ray Allen, but I had the same issue. But yes, it's a good idea, I will try a few more and see if it fixes it.

I remember last year my jump shot would be money, then all of sudden it would stop working, crazy. Hopefully they do something about it.

It wasn't the jumpshot going broke last year, it was the mechanic talked about just before the game came out where your player had random chances to come into the game warm or cold, and this could happen to you throughout the course of a game.

[ataman5]

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https://vimeo.com/185201076

This has happened in this very same game with Curry and one other guy 3-4 times in PNO.

I think as you might see this isn't a problem of shooting % this is a problem of general physics/dfeense not playing a real part/awareness math calculation in this consequence. By looking at this most will say shooting % has to be fixed but to my opinion there are more needs fixing than % itself. This kimda shot should/can go in. Not that repetitive though.

Post patch game started to play really hectic in times, you know it already. I hated the patch still do. Should i tell it again ? ı think every year 2k betrays what they accomplished after just some crying rather than sticking what they have accomplished. They prefer to "please" ok i get that but what about giving time making players understand, this is a new game. Fifa doesn't do that they don't react this fast to complains. Bcs at the end of the day a patch testing can't be long enough as a year cycle testing right? Game out of the box was tested a lot longer, it was balanced in terms of so many things but then they 'react' to patch some in. I don't like it at all. The game has been released 3 weeks and i believe we had to adjust at least 3 times right? That's not good.

The pace gets hectic with passing speed on top of everything, many consequences i had in this game was bcs of lead passing getting thru bodies. And then the gameplay speed gets in factor although i believe it should be fast not this way fast and again player speeds with or without ball was PERFECT out of the box, you could have really understood the difference between a pg and a sf and a C but now Zaza can dribble the ball as he likes. These were good "out of the box" but now no.

Xbox users can enjoy while it last not having the patch in.

I feel like it's my duty to be onboard and check and defend the game against crying babies rather than spending my time playing the game, bcs if i just play it will change and as it changes i'll understand, i'm sorry but i'm in that 'awareness' now unfortunately.


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[RNS1hunna]

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https://vimeo.com/185201076

This has happened in this very same game with Curry and one other guy 3-4 times in PNO.

I think as you might see this isn't a problem of shooting % this is a problem of general physics/dfeense not playing a real part/awareness math calculation in this consequence. By looking at this most will say shooting % has to be fixed but to my opinion there are more needs fixing than % itself. This kimda shot should/can go in. Not that repetitive though.

Post patch game started to play really hectic in times, you know it already. I hated the patch still do. Should i tell it again ? ı think every year 2k betrays what they accomplished after just some crying rather than sticking what they have accomplished. They prefer to "please" ok i get that but what about giving time making players understand, this is a new game. Fifa doesn't do that they don't react this fast to complains. Bcs at the end of the day a patch testing can't be long enough as a year cycle testing right? Game out of the box was tested a lot longer, it was balanced in terms of so many things but then they 'react' to patch some in. I don't like it at all. The game has been released 3 weeks and i believe we had to adjust at least 3 times right? That's not good.

The pace gets hectic with passing speed on top of everything, many consequences i had in this game was bcs of lead passing getting thru bodies. And then the gameplay speed gets in factor although i believe it should be fast not this way fast and again player speeds with or without ball was PERFECT out of the box, you could have really understood the difference between a pg and a sf and a C but now Zaza can dribble the ball as he likes. These were good "out of the box" but now no.

Xbox users can enjoy while it last not having the patch in.

I feel like it's my duty to be onboard and check and defend the game against crying babies rather than spending my time playing the game, bcs if i just play it will change and as it changes i'll understand, i'm sorry but i'm in that 'awareness' now unfortunately.


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Exactly well said


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[sirio994]

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My only concerns right now are:


-Help defense
-Passing speed (really too high)
-Open shots (i love them on the user's side but they are not threated equally when the CPU is shooting)
-Contested shots (the same thing of open shots)
-Transition speed (probably it's a bad sensation but i feel the CPU is faster than the the user)


I love playing on HOF and i'm winning more games than ever but scores are high (because of pace) and there are more frustrating things than before the patch...

[Thetruth9012]

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Mike can we still use pullups without a fear of constantly brick like 2k16 ?

Pullups were great out of the box just pure magic.

Hope it's still the same played only 2 games so i dont know.


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[Insight23]

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The latest tuning update was for existing modes right? I played the Knicks in my existing MyLeague & almost every play was a fast break for the Knicks. I go to a play now game with the same settings/same teams & it's almost entirely different gameplay. I'm thinking about starting up a new MyLeague now.

[Johnnythelegend]

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Still can't believe how could a patch, a thing that is supposed to make overall experience better, make it worse. And i feel the same, i am not trying to say that you guys are wrong. Pre patch i really enjoyed the game, i was like, wow, this is good, i felt i could do more with great players, it felt smooth, fun, but realistic, i felt shooting was faster and more fluid and i really liked it, i liked the passing but now i don't really like it, it's so damn fast, like i am playing a racing game, not a basketball one. I guess i'll just play myplayer, i think it is created really nicely, i don't need the game to be that sim as i would want it if i am playing with a team, but to continue my league, i guess i'll wait for a fix.

[sirio994]

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Yeah, too many fastbreaks. I can't believe that such a small patch (in terms of gameplay they touched transition and passing) has changed everything...

[sirio994]

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The game was almost perfect with the first shooting update. Then the patch came out...

[Leasim96]

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I believe very soon we will have a fix to everything - as always the first month is especially rough. But the game can only improve given that we mostly have problems.

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