3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

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  • Leasim96
    Pro
    • Oct 2014
    • 948

    #46
    Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

    Originally posted by ph33
    Please don't change this

    I'm so sick of hearing people bitch and complain that they shoot 60% from three instead of 70%

    This is basketball folks. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO SOME DUMB GREEN RELEASE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE OPEN
    It's been suggested several times - i definitely think this game won't make great progress that satisfies both sims and arcades anytime soon - they really should just make a kind of "choice" when you first join park/online - that you are forced to choose either to play with sim sliders - or arcade.

    I just don't see how both parties will ever agree - obviously sim people have the more realistic bragging rights. But arcade people are usually the bigger party in size.

    This would make it so decisions are decided by 2 different parties - towards 2 different playzones - therefore neither affecting the other. If you want to play arcade - go ahead. If you want to play sim - go ahead. Simple. I bet they would find better balance way sooner. And arcade peoples complaining wouldn't affect us sim people. Peace for all.

    I really could give less fs - about making every shot - being the superstar of the team or some bs - trying to "prove myself" as the PARK GOAT DEMIGOD NERF ME. I just want to play sim ball alone -
    and with my buddies - that's all. Is that really so hard 2k?. Especially the alone part.
    Last edited by Leasim96; 04-08-2017, 02:56 PM.

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    • mrchiggs
      Pro
      • Sep 2005
      • 511

      #47
      Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

      Originally posted by ph33
      Please don't change this

      I'm so sick of hearing people bitch and complain that they shoot 60% from three instead of 70%

      This is basketball folks. YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO SOME DUMB GREEN RELEASE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE OPEN
      Im not bitching and I know my release so im not just chucking three's Im in practice shooting.

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #48
        Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

        Originally posted by Leasim96
        It's been suggested several times - i definitely think this game won't make great progress that satisfies both sims and arcades anytime soon - they really should just make a kind of "choice" when you first join park/online - that you are forced to choose either to play with sim sliders - or arcade.

        I just don't see how both parties will ever agree - obviously sim people have the more realistic bragging rights. But arcade people are usually the bigger party in size.

        This would make it so decisions are decided by 2 different parties - towards 2 different playzones - therefore neither affecting the other. If you want to play arcade - go ahead. If you want to play sim - go ahead. Simple. I bet they would find better balance way sooner. And arcade peoples complaining wouldn't affect us sim people. Peace for all.
        Yes sir. But I'm not sure their servers could handle having 2 different styles.....

        And I understand some people may be upset, such as people who maxed out 3 point shooting on an archetype that isn't traditionally a shooter. I'd be annoyed about that too. But those types could hit 50%+ from deep and it was ridiculous.

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        • Leasim96
          Pro
          • Oct 2014
          • 948

          #49
          Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

          Originally posted by ph33
          Yes sir. But I'm not sure their servers could handle having 2 different styles.....

          And I understand some people may be upset, such as people who maxed out 3 point shooting on an archetype that isn't traditionally a shooter. I'd be annoyed about that too. But those types could hit 50%+ from deep and it was ridiculous.
          Indeed that would be the bigger issue - if only they would just quit it with the whole annoying park visuals - i could care less. It's probably definitely what makes the game lag. If it would be press a button and go straight to the game it would probably be less laggy. Who knows.

          But think about it - there are 3 parks / several events and pro am. If they would reduce all this somehow. It could work since it's less mumbo jumbo. Sacrifice the flashy for once for stability and longevity.

          Yea i said that about 3pt'ers at the start of the post - it is unfair indeed. But i'm willing to sacrifice for a less annoying experience overall. If only they would refund the 3pt attributes to everyone - i don't see the problem. Just put them again if you want them - nothing game breaking.

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          • ph33
            MVP
            • Oct 2014
            • 3261

            #50
            Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

            So I just tried on my own practice court (HOF Difficulty) and I still green a lot of corner 3s, but like others said it's not as easy to do from the other parts of the court. The game isn't as forgiving now for shooting after you dribble, and you really have to have good rhythm and set feet before you do it to have a better release. I'm sure when playing with playmakers and all that badge junk (Catch and shoot, dimer, etc.) it makes things easier.

            And I love it like this.

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            • CaseIH
              MVP
              • Sep 2013
              • 3945

              #51
              Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

              Originally posted by NoLeafClover
              Awesome change, yet it will get reverted back due to whiny, unintelligent kids bitching on Twitter who have never watched a basketball game other than Steph Curry mixtapes on YouTube.

              This is by FAR the best the game has played all year but because of crybaby children with face tattoo characters and xXKillahXx in their username it won't last.

              Sigh.

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              Yep, and thats exactly why Ive never played online, because of the type of people you mentioned. Way too many play online that have no clue about how to play basketball, its seems to be that way with all sports games when you go online. Unfortunately at times there whining screws up the game for those of us who just play offline, and then we have to go back to trying to fixed the game with sliders. I wish the devs would quit listening to so many of the online players. Sure there are some that play online that understand the game, but too many have no clue, not sure they even have set down and watched a whole game before,lol. I hope I dont have to spend another chunk of time tryin to find the right spot for sliderss, now things have changed with shooting.
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              • Caelumfang
                MVP
                • Oct 2012
                • 1218

                #52
                Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)



                Welp, that was quick. Probably back to square 1, lol.

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                • jyoung
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11132

                  #53
                  Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                  There's never going to be a single set of shooting sliders that pleases 100% of NBA 2K's customers.

                  If EA's Battlefield series can have "hardcore" mode and "casual" mode, then I don't see why NBA 2K can't do something similar.

                  This is how I would cater to both camps of players for NBA 2K18:

                  Pro Am Team Arena = realistic shooting sliders

                  Pro Am Walk On = casual shooting sliders

                  MyPark = casual shooting sliders

                  Play Now Online = Before the game starts, let the user pick whether he/she wants to play with realistic or casual shooting sliders, then have separate leaderboards and matchmaking for each shooting setting.

                  MyTeam Online No Roster Restrictions mode = casual shooting sliders

                  MyTeam Online Roster Salary Cap mode = realistic shooting sliders
                  Last edited by jyoung; 04-08-2017, 03:41 PM.

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                  • JohnTaylor
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 280

                    #54
                    Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                    I don't mind this tweak at all. Only SS can green those wing 3s now. Attribute matters more now and now we see more diversity on archetypes.

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                    • hanzsomehanz
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 3275

                      #55
                      Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                      Played 1 Walk-on game with my Sharp

                      I went 2 for 5 from 3 which I'm OK with and a horrible clank in the corner. All whites with no greens and every miss was a red which indicates I'll have to refine my timing.

                      My teammate sharpshooter was cashing out from the corner 3 well over 60%. My teammate playmaker also managed to make a 3 from limitless on the wing not even off a Dimer pass. I saw 1 ridiculous 3 from the top go in off a tight contest with time expiring - it was from big using a non shooting build.

                      Overall, I'm OK with the adjustments needed. The meter feels different and ultimately it's tougher to time a green or 98% full white release but this is a gain I've been hoping for. I'm OK with non shooting builds making open 3s but it shouldn't become so easy that they become likened to shooting specialists. The timing should be difficult enough to discourage you from taking volume 3s but friendly enough to try your luck on occasion with of course little to no probability of greening with a rating below 70.

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                      how could I lose? im playing by my own rules..

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                      • ILLSmak
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2397

                        #56
                        Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                        Is this offline and online? I haven't played online yet, but from offline, given the fact that they made post scoring (at least for me haha) a lot easier, I think an overnerf to 3 point shooting is unnecessary.

                        I think they should give some of it back because, for instance, on HoF I am winning games by about 20, getting 50 points easy, and the cpu is shooting about 40 or under percent.

                        As much as I love the 90s style of dump it in and let the big go to work, the NBA is not like that anymore. Inside scoring got so much easier, so if they over nerf 3s, they make it so that you will always, if you are smart, play inside out.

                        They need to make it so that a big w/ 60 rating and badges hits about 30% of a corner 3 on a catch and shoot. On catch and shoot in the corner, sharp shooters should be extremely wet, probably 60+%.

                        The shooting from spots isn't bothersome, it's people running around and jacking. I can't comment on what the catch and shoot percentage is, and I know people who are like "Man I keep getting D- on my shots and missing while I'm shooting good shots!" then they post a video and it's like wow, I'd never shoot a shot like that.

                        I just hope they don't revert the inside scoring. They need to balance the outside scoring against it.

                        It's reasonable to believe if you get a catch and shoot shot with a 70+ rated, badged player, you should make it at a good clip. You should never feel that you are second guessing yourself on an open shot in a video game. However, that's not the same as running around and pulling up from 40 feet for an all net green.

                        It's also reasonable to believe if I get the ball inside vs a sharpshooter who is 6'8... I can house him with my post scorer. Right now, you can fake and then go up for a hook, or do a lay up into someone without getting a contact animation (as long as you choose a side of the rim and don't just mash it into them.) That's game changing, and once people realize that and start to score inside normally, shooting will need to be adjusted, so it's best to adjust it now.

                        -Smak

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                        • ILLSmak
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2397

                          #57
                          Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                          Originally posted by 2_headedmonster
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                          This is for those who say you cant make a three after the tweak. This guy on my team was bombing away. Its fine.
                          double post, he was also wide open in everything but the last one. You can't just let someone walk up to the line and fire that, even if they are a bit behind it. I am cool with people making those shots.

                          -Smak

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                          • rossi45
                            Rookie
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 53

                            #58
                            Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                            Originally posted by ILLSmak
                            They need to make it so that a big w/ 60 rating and badges hits about 30% of a corner 3 on a catch and shoot. On catch and shoot in the corner, sharp shooters should be extremely wet, probably 60+%.

                            -Smak
                            honestly think it should fit now with the % you said. but I guess 60 rating will still shoot about 45-50 from the corner now. Im cool with that as long its just the corner and 70% at least as it was.

                            Played some more park with my shotcreator and its fine for me. No greens from the top 3point but this will change tomorrow

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                            • ph33
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3261

                              #59
                              Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                              Ugh, I really hope they aren't tuning it back to make it easier.

                              Green releases are the worst I wish we could take it out. I was playing a park game where this dude missed an open shot and started freaking out. "man I'm a SHARP SHOOTER! SHARP SHOOTERS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO MISS THAT BRUH!"

                              The dude was 3-4.

                              It's created a terrible culture.

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                              • spike83
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 348

                                #60
                                Re: 3pt Shooting has been Tweaked(Feedback Thread)

                                Originally posted by Caelumfang
                                https://twitter.com/Beluba/status/850806259754295296

                                Welp, that was quick. Probably back to square 1, lol.


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