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  • JazzMan
    SOLDIER, First Class...
    • Feb 2012
    • 13547

    #46
    Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

    Originally posted by Rashidi
    2K should not be posting Overall ratings for non-stars because they flat out don't pay any attention to them. Beyond the OVR, surgery is required to make this guy a FUNCTIONAL player.

    Royce O'Neale
    76 Overall (+2)

    Position: SF
    Archetype: Two-Way Wing

    OFFENSE
    81 Standing Layup (+4)
    75 Driving Layup (-1)
    55 Post Fade (+3)
    55 Post Hook (+1)
    55 Post Control (-4)
    65 Draw Foul (+6)
    70 Shot Close (+1)
    70 Open Shot Mid (-6)
    62 Contested Mid
    66 Off-Dribble Mid (+6)
    81 Open Shot 3pt (+2)
    75 Contested 3pt (-2)
    75 Off-Dribble 3pt (-3)
    77 Free Throw (-2)
    75 Ball Control (+7)
    55 Pass Vision (+10)
    65 Pass IQ (-3)
    65 Pass Accuracy
    38 Offensive Rebound (+1)
    50 Standing Dunk (-5)
    70 Driving Dunk
    50 Contact Dunk (-5)
    61 Shot IQ (-17)
    75 Hands

    DEFENSE
    77 Defensive Rebound
    47 Block (-4)
    75 Shot Contest (+9)
    67 Steal (+5)
    80 On-Ball Defense (+6)
    70 Low Post Defense (+2)
    75 Reaction Time (+11)

    ATHLETICISM
    70 Boxout (+20)
    75 Lateral Quickness (+5)
    75 Speed (+6)
    70 Ball Speed (+3)
    70 Acceleration (+2)
    65 Vertical
    60 Strength
    85 Stamina (+5)
    85 Hustle (+5)
    85 Durability (+5)

    INTANGIBLES
    70 Pass Perception (+2)
    80 Defensive Consistency (+30)
    80 Pick & Roll Defense (+9)
    75 Help Defense (+7)
    60 Offensive Consistency (-5)
    60 Intangibles
    80 Potential (+6)

    GRADES
    Inside Scoring: C+ (from C)
    Mid-Range Scoring: C- (from C+)
    3PT Scoring: B
    Playmaking: B- (from C+)
    Perimeter Defense: B- (from C)
    Post Defense: C
    Rebounding: C+
    Athleticism: C (from C-)
    Basketball IQ: B- (from B)

    STRENGTHS
    Very good rebounder for his size/position. A much better defender than 2K gives him credit for - they have proven incapable of implementing a system or evaluating this end of the floor.

    WEAKNESSES
    At age 25, O'Neale is a bit of a finished product. He isn't an efficient scorer with the ball in his hands, and only an average shooter. The NBA is in love with the P.J. Tucker type at the moment, so O'Neale should be able to carve out a career as a backup.

    Rashidi Ratings vs NBA 2K19
    98/SF Kevin Durant (-2): Two-Way Superstar
    97/SF LeBron James (-1): All-Around Superstar
    96/SF Kawhi Leonard (+2): Two-Way Superstar
    93/SF Giannis Antetokounmpo (-1): All-Around Superstar
    92/C Anthony Davis (-2): Two-Way Superstar
    92/C Karl-Anthony Towns (+1): Rebounding Scoring Machine
    91/PG Damian Lillard (+1): Athletic Playmaker
    89/SG DeMar DeRozan (NC): Playmaking Finisher
    88/C DeMarcus Cousins (-2): All-Around Superstar
    87/C Andre Drummond (NC): Rebounding Specialist
    87/SF Paul George (-2): Lockdown Defender
    87/PG Kemba Walker (+1): Athletic Playmaker
    86/PG Ben Simmons (-1): Two-Way Superstar
    86/SG Donovan Mitchell (-1): Two-Way Star
    85/SF Jayson Tatum (-2): Two-Way Wing
    83/PF Blake Griffin (-3): Athletic Point Power Forward
    83/C DeAndre Ayton (+4): Low Post Star
    82/PG Trae Young (+5): Offensive Star
    81/PG D'Angelo Russell (-2): Offensive Star
    80/PG Spencer Dinwiddie (+1): Playmaker
    80/SG Jaylen Brown (-4): Two-Way Guard
    80/SF Josh Richardson (+2): Two-Way Wing
    78/PG Tyus Jones (+4): Two-Way Point
    77/SF E’Twaun Moore (+2): Sharpshooter
    76/SF Royce O'Neale (+2): Two-Way Wing
    You're doing the lord's work.

    O'Neale was a huge cog in Utah's defense down the stretch and in the Playoffs last year. When Rubio went down after Round 1, Snyder plugged O'Neale in the starting backcourt and he did an admirable job guarding Harden and CP3.

    But he plays for Utah and was an undrafted player last year, so they don't care
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    • Steve_OS
      Editor-in-Chief
      • Jul 2002
      • 33907

      #47
      Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

      Isaiah Canaan
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      • Mauer4MVP
        MVP
        • Mar 2010
        • 2407

        #48
        Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

        Nothing really crazy but I love data. Here's a chart comparing 2k and Rashidi's ratings compared to a weighted average of win shares over the last two years.

        So far, it looks like Rashidi's model follows a clearer trend vs. 2k.

        In the last chart, dark grey is 2k and light is rashidi. I'm going to keep updating as ratings get released.

        Of course win shares is far from a perfect stat, just thought it was interesting and it at least considers playing time vs. Something lile RAPM.

        Rashidi.PNG2k%20Rating.PNGDual%20Axis%20Rating.PNG

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        Last edited by Mauer4MVP; 08-21-2018, 07:30 PM.

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        • Real2KInsider
          MVP
          • Dec 2003
          • 4658

          #49
          Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

          Originally posted by Mauer4MVP
          Nothing really crazy but I love data. Here's a chart comparing 2k and Rashidi's ratings compared to a weighted average of win shares over the last two years.

          So far, it looks like Rashidi's model follows a clearer trend vs. 2k.
          This is pretty cool.
          I can tell you the following from experience:

          2K only edits a handful of attributes and they do it via CPU (i.e. plugging data into an Excel formula). Anything that requires manual attention, they simply can't be bothered, especially once you get past the top 20 or so players.

          Every so often they'll blanket update an attribute across the entire league. If anyone remembers this guy CaseI freaking out because Ben Moore's OVR went up (omg they're focusing on scrubs rather than guys who need it). What actually happened was everyone in the league got their Strength attribute updated, which of course is going to lead to random OVR fluctuations.

          Its actually unlikely 2K even manually evaluated Moore this process, but rather were instituting a new scale utilizing position and weight (only making exceptions for any notables).

          Most underrated players are because they don't pay attention (or even have a scale in place) for stuff like ball handling.

          (Typed on cell, not my usual clarity)
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          • jaityla
            Rookie
            • Aug 2017
            • 78

            #50
            Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

            Alize Johnson

            New hairstyles confirmed



            He probably didn’t get scanned in. The created player looks awful but oh well

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            • Real2KInsider
              MVP
              • Dec 2003
              • 4658

              #51
              Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

              Canaan has had a bit of an odd career. Despite being 6'0" he's been frequently played at SG due to his shooting prowess. 2018 was the first year he really got to play some PG, played the best basketball of his life, and then broke his leg. He signed a non-guaranteed contract with the Suns, and is far from a lock to make the team (his value drops quite a bit if he isn't the same player, and PG is the highest bar to clear in the NBA - numerous players in Canaan's tier are circulating China and Europe).

              Isaiah Canaan
              77 Overall (+6)

              Position: PG (from SG)
              Archetype: Playmaker (from Versatile Playmaker)

              OFFENSE
              79 Standing Layup (-1)
              75 Driving Layup (+1)
              35 Post Fade (+10)
              30 Post Hook (+5)
              30 Post Control (+5)
              85 Draw Foul (+26)
              99 Shot Close (+40) - Canaan is 34-64 (53%) over the last two seasons.
              69 Open Shot Mid (-3)
              65 Contested Mid (-5)
              65 Off-Dribble Mid (-7)
              78 Open Shot 3pt (-3) - Shot 5/12 last season; 9/27 career
              74 Contested 3pt (+9)
              78 Off-Dribble 3pt (+14)
              90 Free Throw (+2)
              85 Ball Control (+5)
              74 Pass Vision (+1)
              80 Pass IQ (+-2)
              80 Pass Accuracy (+1)
              33 Offensive Rebound (+1)
              25 Standing Dunk
              40 Driving Dunk - Dunked 2x in 2016 - given ankle injury those are probably the last
              25 Contact Dunk
              81 Shot IQ (+6)
              70 Hands

              DEFENSE
              50 Defensive Rebound
              37 Block (+7)
              55 Shot Contest (+1)
              70 Steal (+5)
              65 On-Ball Defense (+9)
              30 Low Post Defense (+5)
              55 Reaction Time (+1)

              ATHLETICISM
              45 Boxout (+5)
              70 Lateral Quickness (+5)
              85 Speed (+9)
              85 Ball Speed (+1)
              90 Acceleration (+2)
              85 Vertical
              50 Strength (-2)
              80 Stamina
              70 Hustle
              80 Durability
              75 Left Shoulder Durability (-11)
              75 Left Ankle Durability (-13)

              INTANGIBLES
              65 Pass Perception (+13)
              60 Defensive Consistency (+15)
              80 Pick & Roll Defense (+14)
              80 Help Defense (+28)
              60 Offensive Consistency (+15)
              60 Intangibles (+10)
              80 Potential (+8)

              GRADES
              Inside Scoring: B- (from C+)
              Mid-Range Scoring: C- (from C)
              3PT Scoring: B-
              Playmaking: A- (from B+)
              Perimeter Defense: C (from D+)
              Post Defense: F
              Rebounding: D+
              Athleticism: B- (from C+)
              Basketball IQ: B (from C)

              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/oaMyTjEeUJQ" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              Rashidi Ratings vs NBA 2K19
              98/SF Kevin Durant (-2): Two-Way Superstar
              97/SF LeBron James (-1): All-Around Superstar
              96/SF Kawhi Leonard (+2): Two-Way Superstar
              93/SF Giannis Antetokounmpo (-1): All-Around Superstar
              92/C Anthony Davis (-2): Two-Way Superstar
              92/C Karl-Anthony Towns (+1): Rebounding Scoring Machine
              91/PG Damian Lillard (+1): Athletic Playmaker
              89/SG DeMar DeRozan (NC): Playmaking Finisher
              88/C DeMarcus Cousins (-2): All-Around Superstar
              87/C Andre Drummond (NC): Rebounding Specialist
              87/SF Paul George (-2): Lockdown Defender
              87/PG Kemba Walker (+1): Athletic Playmaker
              86/PG Ben Simmons (-1): Two-Way Superstar
              86/SG Donovan Mitchell (-1): Two-Way Star
              85/SF Jayson Tatum (-2): Two-Way Wing
              83/PF Blake Griffin (-3): Athletic Point Power Forward
              83/C DeAndre Ayton (+4): Low Post Star
              82/PG Trae Young (+5): Offensive Star
              82/C Willy Hernangomez (+6): Low Post Star
              81/PG D'Angelo Russell (-2): Offensive Star
              80/PG Spencer Dinwiddie (+1): Playmaker
              80/SG Jaylen Brown (-4): Two-Way Guard
              80/SF Josh Richardson (+2): Two-Way Wing
              78/PG Tyus Jones (+4): Two-Way Point
              77/SF E’Twaun Moore (+2): Sharpshooter
              77/PG Isaiah Canaan (+5): Playmaker
              76/SF Royce O'Neale (+2): Two-Way Wing
              72/PF Omari Spellman (+1): Faceup Four
              Last edited by Real2KInsider; 08-22-2018, 08:19 AM.
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              • InRodWeTrust
                Pro
                • Sep 2009
                • 533

                #52
                Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                Rashidi. Quick question but do you take sample size into consideration when doing ratings? Because Im seeing high ratings for guys who are barely rotation players? Or do you take care of that in tendencies? (IE Willy having a 73 3pt rating despite only making 5 all season and only attempting 12). I ask because I wanna use your rosters in MyLeague but dont want the league stats all messed up.

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                • Steve_OS
                  Editor-in-Chief
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33907

                  #53
                  Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                  IMG_0598.JPGIMG_0597.JPG

                  Couple more.


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                  • J_Posse
                    Greatness Personified
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 11255

                    #54
                    Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                    Originally posted by jaityla
                    Alize Johnson

                    New hairstyles confirmed



                    He probably didn’t get scanned in. The created player looks awful but oh well
                    Yeah, a lot of 2nd round picks go unscanned their first year.

                    Makes no sense since 2K is at Summer League getting top tier picks scanned, but they "skip" lower priority players.

                    Anyway, the CAP created render looks exactly like a preset face from last season. The eyebrows and hairstyle (high top fade 2?) looks a ton more detailed than 2K18, though.

                    They usually just throw a face together without worrying about accuracy. Someone in the community will do a better job.

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                    • Real2KInsider
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4658

                      #55
                      Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                      Originally posted by Steve_OS
                      Couple more.
                      Okay, you found my breaking point, I don't make enough money to re-edit those guys.
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                      • J_Posse
                        Greatness Personified
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 11255

                        #56
                        Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                        Originally posted by Rashidi
                        Okay, you found my breaking point, I don't make enough money to re-edit those guys.
                        So, basically you are turning into the official editor?!

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                        • Real2KInsider
                          MVP
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 4658

                          #57
                          Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                          Originally posted by J_Posse
                          So, basically you are turning into the official editor?!

                          [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]
                          We can put this on my application!
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                          • Steve_OS
                            Editor-in-Chief
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33907

                            #58
                            Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                            Another one...7EB218C4-A91D-40D3-AFCC-3C8C46403DD2.jpg


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                            • sudanmalkovich
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2016
                              • 528

                              #59
                              Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                              Originally posted by Steve_OS




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                              I'm really sorry for him.

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                              • joepatowski
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2017
                                • 249

                                #60
                                Re: NBA 2K19 Screenshots and Player Ratings

                                Originally posted by Steve_OS
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                                Couple more.


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                                Some reasons i can't see the pictures from Steve.

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