Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I'm trying to figure out why this situation is such a complicated matter? To me, it's simple. Squads of four or five people have one lobby. Randoms and squads of three and less have another lobby. You don't want to put too many more other filters on top of that, because it will increase the waiting time.

However, I do wish they had a 5v5 park court for quick matches. The problem with that is the court will have to be completely random with blind matchmaking. There's too much snobbery in the park for the court to have the traditional "got next' spots.


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Bro, what is with you and wanting to force people to play with garbage *** teammates? Blind matchmaking should definitely NOT be in the Park. I want to see what teammates I’m getting. People are ‘snobby’ because they’re tired of getting blindsided by absolute bums.

[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

You can't figure out how your build plays before you get to 96 overall???

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1.) I don’t gauge it from MyCareer, because it can give a false sense of security.

2.) I don’t play Park, so I’m not testing my player there.

I test my player’s capabilities in Rec. And even then, I don’t really get a true feel for them until I go up against a competent matchup/team. Then I can see how he really reacts on defense, against sharp movements, his abilities against tight defense, etc. From there, I gauge if his weaknesses are worth taking into Pro Am or not, and if he’ll fit into certain lineups or be a liability.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Bro, what is with you and wanting to force people to play with garbage *** teammates? Blind matchmaking should definitely NOT be in the Park. I want to see what teammates I’m getting. People are ‘snobby’ because they’re tired of getting blindsided by absolute bums.

Miss me with that BS. It already takes too long to get a game on the 3v3 court, because everyone is trying to find the "perfect" teammates for a game to freaking 21. I tried the 5v5 court for double rep one weekend, and I waited 30 minutes on the spot for NOTHING. I ended up going to REC anyways. No one has time to be waiting for fools to look for their future bromance on the court. I want to get a game in and move on.

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[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

1.) I don’t gauge it from MyCareer, because it can give a false sense of security.

2.) I don’t play Park, so I’m not testing my player there.

I test my player’s capabilities in Rec. And even then, I don’t really get a true feel for them until I go up against a competent matchup/team. Then I can see how he really reacts on defense, against sharp movements, his abilities against tight defense, etc. From there, I gauge if his weaknesses are worth taking into Pro Am or not, and if he’ll fit into certain lineups or be a liability.

Still...You can't figure that out before you get to a 96 overall?

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[BasketBalla21]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Miss me with that BS. It already takes too long to get a game on the 3v3 court, because everyone is trying to find the "perfect" teammates for a game to freaking 21. I tried the 5v5 court for double rep one weekend, and I waited 30 minutes on the spot for NOTHING. I ended up going to REC anyways. No one has time to be waiting for fools to look for their future bromance on the court. I want to get a game in and move on.

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REC was just like park in 2k15. You had to wait on a spot and wait for a full game to finish. It was torture even when you had 5. I want to talk to whoever thought of that idea just to know what they were thinking.

[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Miss me with that BS. It already takes too long to get a game on the 3v3 court, because everyone is trying to find the "perfect" teammates for a game to freaking 21. I tried the 5v5 court for double rep one weekend, and I waited 30 minutes on the spot for NOTHING. I ended up going to REC anyways. No one has time to be waiting for fools to look for their future bromance on the court. I want to get a game in and move on.

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And you didn't see that type of behavior coming with people's actual overalls on the line? Yeah no.

YOU may have fun and be satisfied with that, but it'll take two games of Bobby Bo Dingleberry throwing up BS and acting like he's trying out for And-1 mixtapes every possession for me to turn the game off in frustration/annoyance and go play something else. You can have that.

[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Still...You can't figure that out before you get to a 96 overall?

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Not if you don't take him out there before 95.

[howardphillips214]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

I liked it way better when you DIDN'T know everyone's overall and archetype. Made it way more interesting trying to figure out how your match up was going to play.

Idk... I still think just having MORE options is the best route. Giving people more ways to play should never be a bad thing.

[Kleinevos]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Bro, what is with you and wanting to force people to play with garbage *** teammates? Blind matchmaking should definitely NOT be in the Park. I want to see what teammates I’m getting. People are ‘snobby’ because they’re tired of getting blindsided by absolute bums.

There’s the pro-am for that.
3vs3 and 5vs5 proam

Why are YOU so insistent to take your experienced lineups up against randoms and bums?
Do you get walmart discounts when you show your 2k record?

[tru11]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

There’s the pro-am for that.
3vs3 and 5vs5 proam

Why are YOU so insistent to take your experienced lineups up against randoms and bums?
Do you get walmart discounts when you show your 2k record?

Dude wants easy wins.

Thats all there is to it.

Testing builds against randoms running 5 out and zone is just a lame excuse.




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[kdurantmvp]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Why do yall get mad that people want to face bums? Not everyone plays this game for the same reason you do or the other person do. They might not even be good enough themselves to face comp but good enough to have an enjoyable time against the bums (which is 91% of the player base who play the game)


I seen a post saying matchmake based on teammate grade which sounds like a excellent idea until you realize that an teammate average grade of an A with randoms is almost as rare as a random who pass so even though we might have an A average, we going to be waiting a long time because it's not that many people that's not squaded up with an A average. Especially if you a big, most guards out there has a C or B so you going to be waiting.


Unfortunately the best solution is everyone to actually have a brain when they're playing this have but that won't happen because everyone thinks they should shoot the ball 30 times a game, won't pass, think big men shouldnt touch the ball on offense, think defense is spamming square around the court, complains about defensive badges but shoot with 3 hands in their face, the list goes on. 5 stacks vs 5 stacks is a good idea until you realize the truth is there aren't that many squads in the rec to begin with and a bunch of you guys who do complain about squads weren't facing squads and was just getting beat because maybe the other team was just better than you guys or you're just not good at the game.


I'll propose this though. Give pro am more incentives to play though. Why should anyone play pro am when you can get more rep in the rec just from the lack of talent there, you get games quicker, see less zone (which is ironic because a few of them go to the rec and play zone smh), can play with more unorthodox lineups because randoms are too stupid to realize they have a paint beast on their team going against a pure sharp SF playing center on the other team.


Pro am needs double the rep than in rec center, double the badge points, double the vc. Even in L's, you get more in pro am than in rec. Better rewards when you reach certain levels. If you elite, you can sign sponsorships and earn vc like you could in mycareer but in pro am. Say you sign a deal with Nike then everyone on the team gets a free pair of nikes to wear on the court and earn vc. A Gatorade deal could be for badge points. Beats deal could include a warm up suit shown before the game and you get more rep for repping beats.

More customization options. Give teams that are elite (which should be attainable by having 75 wins with a 80% win percentage... So 60-15 is the bare minimum to reach elite) options to choose various court options. Say a team that specializes in post play don't want a three point line, give them that option. Say a team wants to play with international rules and once the ball touch the rim, you can grab it. They should be able to set the rule. When you reach pro, you can edit the style of shorts your team play with.


Instead of blocking 5 stacks from coming into the rec like they're the problem (randoms are the problem if we being honest), you reward them for having a squad and bringing them to pro am. Once they see that not every team is going to be super big comp and the rewards is sweet (especially with the rep being doubled than what it is) 95% of them are not going to want to play rec.

Next, make the courts bigger. These courts are too small or our players is too big and not proportioned right on the courts. Reason you see zone being so relevant because you can literally control every part of the court and can spam square. Our players not even good like actual nba players and we're able to go from corner 3 to the paint with ease back and forth on the same possession. If you make the courts bigger, only time you might see zone is when you have no shooters on your team (which is a rarity in 2k). Make the courts bigger and post play is back with the increased spacing. More spacing benefits everyone. Shot creators, playmakers, Sharps. Only people who would hate making the courts bigger are spammers and who cares what they think.


Right there solves the two biggest issues you solo players have in the rec. 95% of the squads are now in pro am. Zone isn't used as much because the courts are bigger and if they do play zone, knockdown shooters are about to have a field day.


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[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

There’s the pro-am for that.
3vs3 and 5vs5 proam

Why are YOU so insistent to take your experienced lineups up against randoms and bums?
Do you get walmart discounts when you show your 2k record?

You sound goofy. Did you not hear me say about 40 times that we run a bunch of unorthodox stuff (PG/PG/SG/SG/SG and other weird lineups) at the Rec that would NEVER work in actual Pro-Am play? And did you not hear me say that some of the people I run with that I would NEVER take into competitive Pro-Am because of various reasons?

But because we’re grouped up in a ‘squad’, we should automatically be forced into Pro-Am, huh? Kick rocks with that.

[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Dude wants easy wins.

Thats all there is to it.

Testing builds against randoms running 5 out and zone is just a lame excuse.




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Just stop, homie. You literally have no clue what you’re talking about. We don’t take Rec seriously, we go out there to BS around without having to be on edge every single game against the same two sweaty strategies (5-out or 3 out with the PG dancing back and forth behind screens) in Pro-Am.

And FYI, literally the only time we run a zone is when we come up against a squad that begins running it first, just to irritate them.

[Kleinevos]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

You sound goofy. Did you not hear me say about 40 times that we run a bunch of unorthodox stuff (PG/PG/SG/SG/SG and other weird lineups) at the Rec that would NEVER work in actual Pro-Am play? And did you not hear me say that some of the people I run with that I would NEVER take into competitive Pro-Am because of various reasons?

But because we’re grouped up in a ‘squad’, we should automatically be forced into Pro-Am, huh? Kick rocks with that.

Nothing is going to stop you from doing that when there is a seperate matchmaking for squads of 4 or 5 now is there?

You can still do your unorthodox ****.
Just wont be doing it against poor saps who are a ragtag of randoms.


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[Caelumfang]

Re: Matchmaking in Rec is awful.

Why do yall get mad that people want to face bums? Not everyone plays this game for the same reason you do or the other person do. They might not even be good enough themselves to face comp but good enough to have an enjoyable time against the bums (which is 91% of the player base who play the game)


I seen a post saying matchmake based on teammate grade which sounds like a excellent idea until you realize that an teammate average grade of an A with randoms is almost as rare as a random who pass so even though we might have an A average, we going to be waiting a long time because it's not that many people that's not squaded up with an A average. Especially if you a big, most guards out there has a C or B so you going to be waiting.


Unfortunately the best solution is everyone to actually have a brain when they're playing this have but that won't happen because everyone thinks they should shoot the ball 30 times a game, won't pass, think big men shouldnt touch the ball on offense, think defense is spamming square around the court, complains about defensive badges but shoot with 3 hands in their face, the list goes on. 5 stacks vs 5 stacks is a good idea until you realize the truth is there aren't that many squads in the rec to begin with and a bunch of you guys who do complain about squads weren't facing squads and was just getting beat because maybe the other team was just better than you guys or you're just not good at the game.


I'll propose this though. Give pro am more incentives to play though. Why should anyone play pro am when you can get more rep in the rec just from the lack of talent there, you get games quicker, see less zone (which is ironic because a few of them go to the rec and play zone smh), can play with more unorthodox lineups because randoms are too stupid to realize they have a paint beast on their team going against a pure sharp SF playing center on the other team.


Pro am needs double the rep than in rec center, double the badge points, double the vc. Even in L's, you get more in pro am than in rec. Better rewards when you reach certain levels. If you elite, you can sign sponsorships and earn vc like you could in mycareer but in pro am. Say you sign a deal with Nike then everyone on the team gets a free pair of nikes to wear on the court and earn vc. A Gatorade deal could be for badge points. Beats deal could include a warm up suit shown before the game and you get more rep for repping beats.

More customization options. Give teams that are elite (which should be attainable by having 75 wins with a 80% win percentage... So 60-15 is the bare minimum to reach elite) options to choose various court options. Say a team that specializes in post play don't want a three point line, give them that option. Say a team wants to play with international rules and once the ball touch the rim, you can grab it. They should be able to set the rule. When you reach pro, you can edit the style of shorts your team play with.


Instead of blocking 5 stacks from coming into the rec like they're the problem (randoms are the problem if we being honest), you reward them for having a squad and bringing them to pro am. Once they see that not every team is going to be super big comp and the rewards is sweet (especially with the rep being doubled than what it is) 95% of them are not going to want to play rec.

Next, make the courts bigger. These courts are too small or our players is too big and not proportioned right on the courts. Reason you see zone being so relevant because you can literally control every part of the court and can spam square. Our players not even good like actual nba players and we're able to go from corner 3 to the paint with ease back and forth on the same possession. If you make the courts bigger, only time you might see zone is when you have no shooters on your team (which is a rarity in 2k). Make the courts bigger and post play is back with the increased spacing. More spacing benefits everyone. Shot creators, playmakers, Sharps. Only people who would hate making the courts bigger are spammers and who cares what they think.


Right there solves the two biggest issues you solo players have in the rec. 95% of the squads are now in pro am. Zone isn't used as much because the courts are bigger and if they do play zone, knockdown shooters are about to have a field day.


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1.) That concept seems to fly over quite a few people's heads around here.


2.) Eh, maybe. Grouping A= with A and A- (which is the more common grade of the three) could work IMO. Same with grouping the Bs together, and the Cs. Or some small variation to it.


3.) I'm glad someone said it. Not every team that clicks together is a squad. Hell, in my personal experience, whenever I do decide to run solo (which is rare as hell), there has been a couple instances where I ran across some others and our styles clicked by halftime, and we looked like a squad by going on a 7+ game winning streak before calling it a day. But you know how our community is: Catching Ls is NEVER their fault, it's always 2ks fault or someone else's.


4.) You might be the only person that actually understood what I've been trying to say this entire time with the quicker games, and the ability to play unorthodox. Thank you. And btw, if Pro-Am actually worked half the time, I'm sure more people wouldn't mind playing it.


5.) Just more incentives in general for Pro-Am would be great.


7.) The mentality of most randoms is a HUGE problem, which is why a lot of people go in there with 2-4 of their friends, in order to keep the random problem to a minimum, if not outright eliminate it completely. Most people can only take so much. And simply by listening to Tru and a few others, the second they hear 'squad', their narrow minds instantly think 5-out and zone, when in actuality a lot of squads in Rec don't do play like that at all.


And it's funny that, the 1 or MAYBE 2 squads we run into per day aren't good at all with their strategies, because they can't beat a damn full guard lineup lol.