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  • vetmin
    Pro
    • Sep 2019
    • 955

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

    Originally posted by VDusen04
    I'm wondering if this is just destined to be an odd generation of consoles.

    The supply shortage is one thing but speaking from a personal gaming standpoint, I haven't felt the push necessary to slap down $500 to $700 to grab a next gen console and accessories. NBA 2K7's signature jumpers and animations are what finally pushed me to grab a 360 and a great deal is what pushed me into XBox One, but I haven't felt a need to upgrade for what my gaming interests are.

    I figure it's probably an unusual position for 2K's development, with so many people yet to upgrade thus splintering their development. But then, paradoxically, I haven't really seen the sort of "next level" from my go-to games to warrant that sort of financial commitment.
    Same. Back when all we knew about next-gen was that it was supposedly "built from the ground up," my gameplan was to stay on current-gen for 2k21 (since I anticipated first-year growing pains on next-gen) and get a PC for the next-gen release of 2k22 (since I needed a new PC anyway), though I conceded that I'd be very tempted to get a PS5/XSX sooner if next-gen 2k was as incredible as we thought it might be.

    Once details re: 2k21 dropped, that temptation was dead in the water. Like, absolutely no way am I spending that kind of money to get quicker access to a 2k experience that seems more or less like what it's been for years. To that point...

    Originally posted by zello144
    The next gen game is built on top of the current gen game. Why else when I get bugs when changing clothes does that lake from NBA 2K18 when you were fishing with Paul George show up?

    They needed to build from the ground up. Instead of taking last gen and giving it more horsepower.
    Exactly. How can you have legacy bugs in a game that was "built from the ground up"? That's literally why you build or re-build something from the ground up, to disentangle it from deep-rooted bugs / limitations. I was very outspoken about all of this as soon as we had video footage of 2k21 and saw the truth of what it was.

    So yeah, there's zero chance I buy a new-gen console (even if 2k on PC is discontinued) as long as the game is as similar as it is to old-gen. I get that it feels and looks noticeably better when you're actually playing, but it's well, well short of what it should be, and absolutely not worth getting a next-gen console IMO unless you really play a lot of other exclusive titles as well. This is especially the case to me since it sounds like the out-of-game experience — mainly franchise mode stability / non-glitchiness — actually sounds inferior to old-gen, based on the complaints I've seen here constantly for both 2k21 and '22. That's a killer for me, though I understand that Play Now gamers are not impacted by these drawbacks.

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    • simbayless
      MVP
      • May 2011
      • 2040

      #167
      Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

      Idk if its just me or the Lakers jersey number colors look weird on next gen? And i agree lakers yellow jersey on old gen looks very vibrant compared to next gen

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #168
        Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

        Originally posted by EccentricMeat
        I won’t lie, I legitimately have 0 clue what you’re trying to say. You agree the new consoles are far more powerful, but don’t agree that the lack of a generational leap is due to devs attempting parity with old gen? What do you attribute the lack of a generational leap, then?

        We are seeing this with essentially every other game that is also releasing a last-gen version of the same game. Even Horizon Forbidden West didn’t make as huge a leap as it should have (even though it is still extremely impressive on the PS5) because they also released a version for PS4. And from what we’ve seen of the new God of War, the game will look great but not THAT much better than the previous title in 2018, also due to the fact they’re releasing the game on old gen as well.

        The developers for Arkham Knights really touched on this after cancelling the current gen version of the game. It’s not about how much money the company brings in, WB certainly isn’t short on money….but it’s a daunting task for the development teams when attention has to be split between tech. That’s just the reality of it.

        Originally posted by ch46647
        I agree about atmosphere and immersion. This game could go to a whole new level if the developers would focus on crowd audio.

        I felt the same way you did about the prioritization of Park and online modes taking away any chance we would see a focus on arena audio. However, they added every teams PA announced last year (amazing addition), which was a major undertaking of time and resources. If they were willing to do that, surely they could focus on the crowd audio.
        The PA announcers were a very underrated and dare I say under appreciated add. Grabbing every PA announcer (Some past and present) wasn’t some casual addition, and it most definitely wasn’t for the “online crowd”. Hopefully they can keep building on the arena atmosphere from here.

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        • vetmin
          Pro
          • Sep 2019
          • 955

          #169
          Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          The PA announcers were a very underrated and dare I say under appreciated add. Grabbing every PA announcer (Some past and present) wasn’t some casual addition, and it most definitely wasn’t for the “online crowd”. Hopefully they can keep building on the arena atmosphere from here.
          Maybe so, but 2k routinely shoots itself in the foot by adding new features that are broken. I loved the team-specific PA announcers at first, but eventually I kinda wished I just had the default one back, since so many of the PA announcers are busted in different ways (POR and MIA are the ones people complain about, but I've been in a lot of games where the team-specific PA guy randomly won't say certain types of things). If I'm not mistaken, didn't the default PA guy also pronounce every name in the game, like if you had a Create-A-Player named World B. Laimbeer or something? The team-specific PA guys (understandably) aren't as flexible, which makes draft classes kind of a bummer sometimes (i.e., PA guys unable to verbalize a pretty normal name that would've been recognized by the default guy).

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

            Originally posted by vetmin
            Maybe so, but 2k routinely shoots itself in the foot by adding new features that are broken. I loved the team-specific PA announcers at first, but eventually I kinda wished I just had the default one back, since so many of the PA announcers are busted in different ways (POR and MIA are the ones people complain about, but I've been in a lot of games where the team-specific PA guy randomly won't say certain types of things). If I'm not mistaken, didn't the default PA guy also pronounce every name in the game, like if you had a Create-A-Player named World B. Laimbeer or something? The team-specific PA guys (understandably) aren't as flexible, which makes draft classes kind of a bummer sometimes (i.e., PA guys unable to verbalize a pretty normal name that would've been recognized by the default guy).

            I’m sure all of those issues exist, as well as other quirks. Doesn’t mean the feature is broken.

            On the flip side of that, They recorded specific lines for incoming new players, and even old calls for players who have been traded back to the team they left. Including legends.

            Bugs inevitably happen. Those bugs didn’t completely undermine the feature for me personally.

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            • Mikelopedia
              The Real Birdman
              • Jan 2008
              • 1523

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
              The PA announcers were a very underrated and dare I say under appreciated add. Grabbing every PA announcer (Some past and present) wasn’t some casual addition, and it most definitely wasn’t for the “online crowd”. Hopefully they can keep building on the arena atmosphere from here.
              Easily one of my favorite additions in recent years that I forget how much it's one of my favorite additions. Exceeded my expectations tbh when I heard new players audio such as for example, Michael Baiamonte in Miami saying Bradley Beal in the way you would expect him to say Bradley Beeeeeeal threeeeeeeeeeeee. Any improvement in real life immersion is going to be a huge plus for me. Not saying CAP names was to be expected and doesn't kill it for me.
              Die hard Heat and Dolphins fan since '89

              PSN: MiiikeMarsh

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              • alabamarob
                MVP
                • Nov 2010
                • 3340

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                Pa announcers were simulation at its finest. Great feature
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                • Junior Moe
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 3869

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  The developers for Arkham Knights really touched on this after cancelling the current gen version of the game. It’s not about how much money the company brings in, WB certainly isn’t short on money….but it’s a daunting task for the development teams when attention has to be split between tech. That’s just the reality of it.



                  The PA announcers were a very underrated and dare I say under appreciated add. Grabbing every PA announcer (Some past and present) wasn’t some casual addition, and it most definitely wasn’t for the “online crowd”. Hopefully they can keep building on the arena atmosphere from here.
                  Yep. I may be wrong but I feel like additions like the PA Announcers are possible because of the crazy money 2K makes online. Yes, more development goes into the modes making money. Why wouldn't it? But theres more for smaller things like the PAs.

                  Sent from my SM-G950U using Operation Sports mobile app

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                  • jfsolo
                    Live Action, please?
                    • May 2003
                    • 12965

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                    I'm such a mark. Despite not being happy with NBA 2K for a few years now, I can already feel it in my bones that I will get it again this year at launch. If I stop playing it quickly I won't blame 2K for anything though, it's on me for being a marshmallow.
                    Jordan Mychal Lemos
                    @crypticjordan

                    Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.

                    Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.

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                    • tru11
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1816

                      #175
                      Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                      Originally posted by jfsolo
                      I'm such a mark. Despite not being happy with NBA 2K for a few years now, I can already feel it in my bones that I will get it again this year at launch. If I stop playing it quickly I won't blame 2K for anything though, it's on me for being a marshmallow.


                      Odds are ill be doing the same lol


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                      • Baebae32
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 880

                        #176
                        Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                        Loved the PA announcers. Was a great addition. Have hope they will get around to recording all the names in the database. Hopefully

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                        • AIRJ23
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2021
                          • 2804

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                          My only beef with the PA announcers is when I put Jordan, Pippen, Rodman and co onto the current Bulls team (to use in MyNBA), the Bulls PA announcer doesn’t say their names with any emotion. When they’re doing the starting lineup show he yells out certain current players names with excitement but some and especially classic players he doesn’t say their names like he recorded them as a part of the team. It defaults into what sounds like the standard 2K announcer, just emotionless.

                          So when Jordan scores, or gets announced in the starting lineup, you hear a very basic, dry “Michael Jordan” in the same tone you would if he’s an opposing player scoring on the team.

                          Meanwhile random 80’s players will be announced with complete excitement on other teams they didn’t even play for. I don’t know why the Bulls PA didn’t record MJ and the Bulls legends as if they were part of the team. You have to play as the old Bulls teams to get that from the old school PA guy.

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                          • The 24th Letter
                            ERA
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 39373

                            #178
                            Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                            Czar stream on body ups.



                            Good listen.

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                            • simbayless
                              MVP
                              • May 2011
                              • 2040

                              #179
                              Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              Czar stream on body ups.



                              Good listen.

                              This seems promising i just hope the CPU is more challenging on offense

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                              • alabamarob
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3340

                                #180
                                Re: NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                Czar stream on body ups.



                                Good listen.
                                Oh no. It seems like I can no longer lockup with Trae Young and John Collins. I used to love running into offensive players and shutting down drives. Ha.

                                This will literally change the game for the good. Playing trash defensive players should kill you. Same with bigs.
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                                Xbox: Alabama Rob

                                Youtube: 2k Hawks

                                Settings I play on.
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