NBA 2K23 Gameplay Details and Improvements Revealed

[Schnoodle321]

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It’s hard to blame “next gen console shortages” on 2k giving us a relatively similar looking game from last gen 2yrs in with 20million PS5 sold, 14 million Xbox series x sold and 15million Xbox series s sold. Those numbers steadily continue to rise as well and are tracking very similar to how ps4 sold at the same time.
Truth is they are a company that is going to milk parity on 2 generations until the very last drop which looks like years to come at this point unfortunately

[zello144]

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The next gen game is built on top of the current gen game. Why else when I get bugs when changing clothes does that lake from NBA 2K18 when you were fishing with Paul George show up?

They needed to build from the ground up. Instead of taking last gen and giving it more horsepower.

[The 24th Letter]

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Next gen is FAR more powerful than old gen. Don’t get it twisted, the hardware of old gen isn’t even close. The supply shortages severely hindered both MS and Sony’s ability to get these new consoles into consumers’ hands, so devs made the decision to have most games release on both old and new gen consoles. That’s the long and short reason why we haven’t seen some of the generational leaps we expected 2 years into this console generation, and most of the benefit has been reduced to the SSD load speeds because that’s the easiest thing to code for while maintaining a general parity between old and new consoles.

Yeah, it’s not a matter of opinion, The current gen consoles are most definitely more powerful.

Whether the leap is worth it, is in the eye of the beholder (That and whether they can find one), but I for one, couldn’t possibly go back.

2K originally brought on a separate dev team for 2K21 CG…not sure if that was the case for ‘22 as well.

[ataman5]

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Next gen is FAR more powerful than old gen. Don’t get it twisted, the hardware of old gen isn’t even close. The supply shortages severely hindered both MS and Sony’s ability to get these new consoles into consumers’ hands, so devs made the decision to have most games release on both old and new gen consoles. That’s the long and short reason why we haven’t seen some of the generational leaps we expected 2 years into this console generation, and most of the benefit has been reduced to the SSD load speeds because that’s the easiest thing to code for while maintaining a general parity between old and new consoles.

You don't understand my point at all, whatever you do with what horsepower is only decided by the creators of that horsepower and for the last 2 years beside 2k, do you see that happening in the whole gaming world on that beside ssd power?
I doubt so you do, so i don't get it twisted my friend i'm not saying next gen is not powerful nor more powerful than what current gen is; I'm stating a fact dont get your reasoning of not making a leap with new gen just bcs of the 2k current gen aight, because that's not true, no, it's what it's for all the gaming world, there is no leap not at least until now... and not like the older times of getting to a new gen..

[ataman5]

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Yeah, it’s not a matter of opinion, The current gen consoles are most definitely more powerful.

Whether the leap is worth it, is in the eye of the beholder (That and whether they can find one), but I for one, couldn’t possibly go back.

2K originally brought on a separate dev team for 2K21 CG…not sure if that was the case for ‘22 as well.

And that's not what i'm saying either, i'm not saying it's not powerful and you didn't understand what i meant and i didn't state my opinion on being powerful or not but to the expectations of a giant leap and not having it is not because of 2k current gen worload, no. The reasoning is wrong.

[J_Posse]

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I'm on PC and I agree 100%. I don't think anyone is happy about this prolonged straggling of gens.

Right, look at the tech and advancements EA is making with FIFA & Madden.

I'm not as angry or jaded as other folks, but definitely have a little bitterness that the 2K series hasn't made a significant move forward. Hopefully that happens next year or the year after at the latest.

My biggest wants are more physics driven outcomes, improved team/individual AI and pacing that better replicates the modern NBA. The AI and physics part are being addressed (in smaller areas at least where physics are concerned), but it might them another year or two for it to really do what I'm imagining.

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[itsmb8]

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I'm on PC and I agree 100%. I don't think anyone is happy about this prolonged straggling of gens.

Im making the switch to PC this year. The capabilities of mods far outweigh everything 2K is adding to next-gen. And this is coming from someone who already has a PS5 AND XSX. I have every single platform this game is made on, and I'm just about set on making PC the only platform I'd buy the game on.

If 2K doesnt get with the times soon and fully make the switch to next gen, including making that the base for PC, then I might just forget about 2K.

[zello144]

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I think Take Two as a company hates the PC. GTA gets the same treatment. I’m sure whenever the PS6 comes out they will continue to give the PC the at the time last gen version for years.

[EccentricMeat]

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You don't understand my point at all, whatever you do with what horsepower is only decided by the creators of that horsepower and for the last 2 years beside 2k, do you see that happening in the whole gaming world on that beside ssd power?
I doubt so you do, so i don't get it twisted my friend i'm not saying next gen is not powerful nor more powerful than what current gen is; I'm stating a fact dont get your reasoning of not making a leap with new gen just bcs of the 2k current gen aight, because that's not true, no, it's what it's for all the gaming world, there is no leap not at least until now... and not like the older times of getting to a new gen..

I won’t lie, I legitimately have 0 clue what you’re trying to say. You agree the new consoles are far more powerful, but don’t agree that the lack of a generational leap is due to devs attempting parity with old gen? What do you attribute the lack of a generational leap, then?

We are seeing this with essentially every other game that is also releasing a last-gen version of the same game. Even Horizon Forbidden West didn’t make as huge a leap as it should have (even though it is still extremely impressive on the PS5) because they also released a version for PS4. And from what we’ve seen of the new God of War, the game will look great but not THAT much better than the previous title in 2018, also due to the fact they’re releasing the game on old gen as well.

[AIRJ23]

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What I don’t get is even with 2K22 color’s being massively improved from 2K21, do next gen colors look more washed in general (and 2K23 certainly doesn’t change that as you can see the lakers yellow is still pale)?

I fired up 2K21 old gen (2K21 next gen was hideously washed of course) and it’s ASTOUNDING how much better and richer the especially Lakers colors are. The gold is solid and rich, Staples actually has an atmosphere. In next gen the yellow just isn’t close to as rich and it doesn’t give off the right Lakers atmosphere.

[Pray_iv_m3rcy]

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I wish 2k would make the body types look more lankier across the board.

[J_Posse]

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What I don’t get is even with 2K22 color’s being massively improved from 2K21, do next gen colors look more washed in general (and 2K23 certainly doesn’t change that as you can see the lakers yellow is still pale)?

I fired up 2K21 old gen (2K21 next gen was hideously washed of course) and it’s ASTOUNDING how much better and richer the especially Lakers colors are. The gold is solid and rich, Staples actually has an atmosphere. In next gen the yellow just isn’t close to as rich and it doesn’t give off the right Lakers atmosphere.

I'm not really sure what you're going on about with the colors. All or most of the team colors were off for 2K21, yes, but they all were fixed for 2K22.

They even went away from the "correct" team issued colors - just mess with the shoe creator for proof - to make sure they all look appropriate in game.

The Lakers "gold" is really yellow and it no longer looks washed out on next gen. I can verify that because the game is in front of me.

Can't speak to the atmosphere or what not of Crypto.com arena since stadiums sounds/atmosphere has always been a low priority. Hopefully one day they really make an effort to address people's issues with audio and arena presentation.

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[simbayless]

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Hopefully one day they really make an effort to address people's issues with audio and arena presentation.

Official HQ of Bills Backer/Spurs Nation

Man i been pushing for 2k for Authentic Atmosphere Audio Crowd Arena Presentation for years!
Can you imagine having that on next gen using ps5 3d Audio

Mypark killed the dream because that's thier main focus

Peep game about their silence on certain things they dont want you to know about just like till this day 2k never told us why the Knicks still dont have Madison square Garden Logo

2k we still waiting on this Atmosphere Mike Wang did for NBA Live from the PS3 era

https://youtu.be/Gv4a2A6Dsv8

[ch46647]

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I agree about atmosphere and immersion. This game could go to a whole new level if the developers would focus on crowd audio.

I felt the same way you did about the prioritization of Park and online modes taking away any chance we would see a focus on arena audio. However, they added every teams PA announced last year (amazing addition), which was a major undertaking of time and resources. If they were willing to do that, surely they could focus on the crowd audio.

[AIRJ23]

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I'm not really sure what you're going on about with the colors. All or most of the team colors were off for 2K21, yes, but they all were fixed for 2K22.

They even went away from the "correct" team issued colors - just mess with the shoe creator for proof - to make sure they all look appropriate in game.

The Lakers "gold" is really yellow and it no longer looks washed out on next gen. I can verify that because the game is in front of me.

Can't speak to the atmosphere or what not of Crypto.com arena since stadiums sounds/atmosphere has always been a low priority. Hopefully one day they really make an effort to address people's issues with audio and arena presentation.

Official HQ of Bills Backer/Spurs Nation

Play a lakers home game on an old gen 2K and then a new gen. The yellow on court is wayyyy richer on old gen. 2K22 next gen has perfect colors actually, and the yellow isn’t washed anymore, but lakers yellow is still definitely not as rich as it was on last gen. And 2K23 isn’t any better there

By atmosphere I mean the aesthetic. The yellow/gold on old gen just feels a lot truer to life.

It used to be gold btw, until Nike ruined lakers “gold” with their hideous new banana/p*ss yellow hues. It looks nothing like the Kobe or Magic era gold. Nike jerseys in general are horrendous if you ask me.