Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

[AIRJ23]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

It honestly feels like the devs were just bored. Like hmmmmm what should we do to look busy? lol.

Look I understand the game wasnt perfect for everyone out of the box but i think the majority of people thought the gameplay was the best its been in quite some time or even the best ever.

So leave it alone.

Instead they want to be everything for everybody and that is literally impossible.

Having a game not be for me right out of the gate is far better than it being the best game ever and having the rug pulled out from me half way through the games cycle.

To be honest it feels really wrong to me. Like there should be a legal way to get my money back if they completely alter a game after i purchased it. They got my money 3 times Switch, PC and PS5. All because i enjoyed the game so much originally on PS5.

Yeah it was PERFECT before patch. PERFECT. We all kept saying it. Somehow they managed to make it competitive with realistic stats and percentages. It’s very clear the cpu is just dumbed down now. You can see in simple stuff like how they dribble. They used to feel alive and “there.” Now something is just off. Like it looks like a bot. I’ll see a guy dribbling to a random corner of the screen for no reason. Or shooting a long range sideways pull up 3 for no reason. Just the cpu movements now have lost that edge they had. Things look delayed, confused, etc.

Now all of a sudden with the sliders I’ve had since day 1, which even after the patch had me bricking tons of shots. I’m making every jumpshot. It’s like they heard us saying shooting was broken after the patch and they just buffed user shooting too much. But our issue was cpu was bricking too much. It’s like they lost the holistic approach to how to make the game function. They just go and “fix” something which breaks something else then they fix that and then you’re left with gameplay that isn’t functioning as one piece. It’s just disjointed.

[AIRJ23]

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We all have to accept as offline players, we have buy 2K for the content. Not the gameplay. Because no matter how good gameplay is at launch, they eventually screw it up. Now this game plays like all the 2K’s before it which had the same issues that 2K23 solved. We have to accept that’s how they need this game to play for the online community.

[sirdez]

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On my third game today after a couple of days without playing.

First game, I beat Orlando by 40 and was up 25 after the first quarter. I shot 63% and they shot 29%, and they also went 47% at the line. Banchero took four shots in total as their best player.

Second game, Indiana beat me by 40. They shot 66%, I shot 32%. They'd added Mitchell Robinson to Myles Turner and the two combined for 9 first quarter blocks, most of them NBA Jam style swats. Mathurin went 14-15 from the field, including six treys. They shot 50% from the line.

Third game, I'm currently up 50-32 early in the third against the Jazz. I'm shooting 62% and they are shooting 29%, as well as going at 42% from the line.

So yeah, everything just feels really extreme one way or another, and the CPU just cannot shoot free throws. I just watched Collin Sexton, a career 83% guy, brick two off the front of the rim like he couldn't even make the distance.

[daveberg]

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Still stand by my thoughts that out of the box, and even after patches, 2k16 and 2k20 are the best games in the series for me. I had fine tuned both to perfection.

As it stands now, 2K23 is just sitting on my shelf collecting dust. No point touching the game until they stop messing around with patches and tinkering with stuff behind the scenes.

[AIRJ23]

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Ok so I moved cpu offensive awareness and consistency to 60 and it seems to be helping (this game. Who knows next game). Also lowered my shooting sliders 1 point. The issue post patch is that cpu is completely dependent on either being hot (where they can destroy you) or most commonly these days, cold (where they play like a JV team with air for brains). The goal now is to find a medium. We’ll see if this is a long term fix.

Gotta love being 60 games into competitive season where I’ve played every game and am fighting hard for 1st seed and was genuinely wondering if I could make finals, then having to completely redo sliders do make it feel like a legit season and fight again.

[ggsimmonds]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

Ok so I moved cpu offensive awareness and consistency to 60 and it seems to be helping (this game. Who knows next game). Also lowered my shooting sliders 1 point. The issue post patch is that cpu is completely dependent on either being hot (where they can destroy you) or most commonly these days, cold (where they play like a JV team with air for brains). The goal now is to find a medium. We’ll see if this is a long term fix.

Gotta love being 60 games into competitive season where I’ve played every game and am fighting hard for 1st seed and was genuinely wondering if I could make finals, then having to completely redo sliders do make it feel like a legit season and fight again.

It just leads to slideritis, just not worth it imo. Instead of enjoying playing basketball we end up chasing a good slider set.

[AIRJ23]

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It just leads to slideritis, just not worth it imo. Instead of enjoying playing basketball we end up chasing a good slider set.

That’s exactly the issue. I can’t enjoy games like this.

I will say that last game was really good. Like pre patch levels. Stats and percentages were just right for the most part too.

Problem is I had to raise cpu offensive awareness and consistency from 50 (where they played like idiots) to 60 (where they started decimating me). I settled at 55 and it was a competitive game. They won. We’ll see if this sticks. I just don’t trust the AI so I’m afraid every game I’ll be adjusting sliders if it gets too hard or too easy.

It does seem offensive consistency and awareness are keys to un-dumbing to the cpu to some extents.

[cloakingturtle]

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Can confirm im using 100 and 100 for awareness and consistency and the 17-44 Orlando magics are shooting 55 so far. I find they react quicker and swing the ball faster. Usually a bad team ill hold them under 30%.

[simbayless]

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Speaking of sliders 🤔
I was messing with the shooting gather sliders

For the CPU Anything over 10 the AI morphs in to position just to contest your shot but if you lower it to 10 the laws of physics is more realistic and if you shake or beat your defender to a spot his comeback contest will be out of position like real life not glued to you

I also noticed shooting strength slider at 20 is the sweet spot
You won't make every shot and you won't miss every shot
You get more of a better realistic outcome

[cloakingturtle]

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Update: they ended up playing like garbage and scores 74 total.

One thing i had been messing with lately was simply playing the game on all star default and for whatever reason i was finding the AI better there. I wonder if shot timing window is the same for the AI on All star resulting in more makes and a better flowing offence. Because what seems to happen is the AI is missing shots and gets cold and thats it for the rest of the game. But if they have an easier time "greening" their shots due to all star window, they don't get cold.

[ggsimmonds]

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Has there been any comment from anyone at 2k about AI issues?

[cloakingturtle]

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Doubt it, all we need for offline players is for them to archive each "tuner" update so we can pick which version we want to play offline with. Ea Nhl does this so by patch 2 or 3 when the game is all broken you can select tuner 1.0 and the game plays like launch

[STLRams]

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Someone needs to retitle thus thread to The CPU has gotten bad. 2K has completely messed up the gamebplay. This sucks, the game A.I. was playing so well with the classic teams and modern teams before these patches. Once again the devs patches have messed up another 2K game.

[VDusen04]

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I know this is a dumb question but... where's the Free Throw slider? The CPU is terrrrrible at free throws post patch for me.

[AIRJ23]

Re: Is it me or did the CPU get WAY better

Someone needs to retitle thus thread to The CPU has gotten bad. 2K has completely messed up the gamebplay. This sucks, the game A.I. was playing so well with the classic teams and modern teams before these patches. Once again the devs patches have messed up another 2K game.

Fixed the title but it doesn’t seem to be showing up yet. And agreed. Gameplay was a masterpiece before launch.