2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

[strosdood]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

You realize your experience was rare, right. Most people had no problem with frame rate. I can’t remember the last time I saw any frame rate glitch with 2K23 and I’ve played it tons and always on broadcast. They resolved that issue long ago. Look at any YouTube video of 2K23 gameplay, there’s no framrate glitches and it flows perfectly smooth. So while I do think the graphical regressions were (must be) done to make gameplay smooth, I doubt any 2K23 frame rate issue is the reason. It’s likely because 2K24 pushing 2K23 lighting would be way too unstable due to 24’s additions sapping resources. People in this thread say they’re still getting frame rate glitches so there goes that theory anyway. Clearly the issues are tied to the outdated engine in general in this game since it’s been two years with some people reporting those flickers.

I can also see it being a bad artistic choice but I feel like even if the lighting is still there, if the game is showing you new lighting with less rendering that must sap less resources. Idk.

They could also be doing it on purpose so when they launch 2K25 with glossy reflective floors and high res player editor screens, people will go nuts. Rinse and repeat.

Bro what!?! U commented on my thread about this last year saying u were getting the framerate stutter really bad 🤣 are u trolling now?

[Lagoa]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

You sound goofy, why would 2K (in your opinion) make the game look worse on purpose with no reason whatsoever? The performance of the game sucked last year, the framerate was garbage when playing full perspective cameras (broadcast) because the systems couldn’t handle it

When we work with mods, we understand how files work within the game (not completely, of course). In the case of reflections, they only "REFLECT" what is already happening on the court (Arena Lights and dornas).

This remains identical in 2K24, meaning the graphics engine continues to send and use the same information.

But when something is changed on the court floor, 2K changes a special file, and it contains the values of how much the reflections will appear. On PC we change this from 1% to 100% and it has NOTHING impact on the FPS, because as I said, stadium lights and dornas work regardless of this.

The frame drop problem is another error, it has no connection with this. In fact, I have 2K23 on Series X and Playstation 5, on Playstation, the problem almost doesn't exist, on Xbox it's aggressive.

As for why 2K would do this? Obviously I don't have that answer, but we've seen it happen many times, they always do it.

[Lagoa]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

Tell me these reflections aren’t just about on the same level of 2K23
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No reason why every court can’t look like this. Like I said, I believe the problem is totally fixable . It’s just a matter of whether or not they actually will. The likelihood is very slim.

In this case, i think its because Spurs sideline and paint have BLACK COLOR. Reflections will be more agressive in dark colors. U can see this with another colors, like, Dark Blue, on Sixers, Black and Purple on Suns...

Reflection apears more agressive in dark floors.

[jclazaris84]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

plot twist: 2k screwed up big time and gave ps5/x users the old gen version.

[Your Back Door Man]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

It's been 10 years and still 2k haven't been able to outdo 2k14 in terms of graphics

[mfdoom911e]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

You sound goofy, why would 2K (in your opinion) make the game look worse on purpose with no reason whatsoever? The performance of the game sucked last year, the framerate was garbage when playing full perspective cameras (broadcast) because the systems couldn’t handle it

NO...they really need to look into this and askthem self if this is enough to release for 2k24.

Below is an example why they need to update the court not only reflection but colors as 2k24 now looks dull and plain and dead.


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2k24
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and 2k23
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[AIRJ23]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

Bro what!?! U commented on my thread about this last year saying u were getting the framerate stutter really bad 🤣 are u trolling now?

It was like a week 3 patch bro. lol. I genuinely can’t remember the last time I saw it, it’s been months and months at the very least. And anyway in this thread alone I believe one or two guys said they’ve gotten it with 24. It’s clearly a recent legacy issue.

I dealt with 2K22’s lack of broadcast cam for longer, lol.

[The 24th Letter]

2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

When we work with mods, we understand how files work within the game (not completely, of course). In the case of reflections, they only "REFLECT" what is already happening on the court (Arena Lights and dornas).

This remains identical in 2K24, meaning the graphics engine continues to send and use the same information.

But when something is changed on the court floor, 2K changes a special file, and it contains the values of how much the reflections will appear. On PC we change this from 1% to 100% and it has NOTHING impact on the FPS, because as I said, stadium lights and dornas work regardless of this.

The frame drop problem is another error, it has no connection with this. In fact, I have 2K23 on Series X and Playstation 5, on Playstation, the problem almost doesn't exist, on Xbox it's aggressive.

As for why 2K would do this? Obviously I don't have that answer, but we've seen it happen many times, they always do it.

No opinion on the shiny court conspiracy….but maybe I’m missing something or misinterpreting? I don’t mod 2K, but I mod multiple games…

Unless there is something incredibly special about 2K, which I have doubts about since there are multiple threads about reflection and frame rates on NLSC….

Mirrored reflections have ALWAYS been a massive GPU load and can absolutely impact frame rate. There’s a reason the majority of PC games have the option to toggle them for lower end PC’s


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[Justonepost]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

2K14 still looks the best.

Absolutely embarrassing that they've not only stagnated but regressed and downgraded.

Most realistic looking players, incredible cloth physics and the best arena and gameplay colour and lighting the series has ever had.

And to make matters worse, 2K24 has the most frame drops and lowest frame rate the series has ever had.

[Gramps91]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

I'm not a game programmer or anything but, does space of a game have anything to do with graphics or performance, I would think that it would.

Wasn't the PS4/Xbone version of 2K14 kinda stripped down on features?

[Lagoa]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

No opinion on the shiny court conspiracy….but maybe I’m missing something or misinterpreting? I don’t mod 2K, but I mod multiple games…

Unless there is something incredibly special about 2K, which I have doubts about since there are multiple threads about reflection and frame rates on NLSC….

Mirrored reflections have ALWAYS been a massive GPU load and can absolutely impact frame rate. There’s a reason the majority of PC games have the option to toggle them for lower end PC’s


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If you modded the 2K you would understand what I'm talking about.

We can change when the courts reflect or not (+-%) just changing numbers in floor files.

There is no loss of engine or hardware on this. As I said before, the stadium lights and dornas are already working and reflecting on the ground. There is a command in the floor files that you change and the court has more or less reflections and I can assure you that it does not modify any FPS.

At least it worked like that on PCs and 2K has been using the same graphics engine and files since NBA 2K16.

But I don't want to convince anyone of anything, I'm just sharing the little information I have, working for 20 years with mods in NBA 2K on PC.

[Lagoa]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

2K14 still looks the best.

Absolutely embarrassing that they've not only stagnated but regressed and downgraded.

Most realistic looking players, incredible cloth physics and the best arena and gameplay colour and lighting the series has ever had.

And to make matters worse, 2K24 has the most frame drops and lowest frame rate the series has ever had.

Agree 100%

[wai1012]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

Have anybody feel the next gen 2k24 graphics just similar with current gen...

[Freakywwe]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

2K14 still looks the best.

Absolutely embarrassing that they've not only stagnated but regressed and downgraded.

Most realistic looking players, incredible cloth physics and the best arena and gameplay colour and lighting the series has ever had.

And to make matters worse, 2K24 has the most frame drops and lowest frame rate the series has ever had.

Screenshots of 2K14 looks great but I think people have rose coloured glasses on when they think about that game. Tried playing it the other day and the jersey movements were so comical I had to turn it off. Felt like I was playing in a wind tunnel it was so distracting

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: 2K24 Graphics comparison vs 2K23

I'm not a game programmer or anything but, does space of a game have anything to do with graphics or performance, I would think that it would.

Wasn't the PS4/Xbone version of 2K14 kinda stripped down on features?

It was bare bones indeed. I think the biggest thing that made 2k14 look so good was the lighting and the sweat.