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  • cam21224
    MVP
    • Jun 2008
    • 2033

    #241
    Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

    Decrease user shooting foul by five
    Horseshoes & HollyWood

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    • mfbmike
      Rookie
      • Feb 2008
      • 31

      #242
      Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

      Originally posted by EccentricMeat
      I've re-posted the v2 base slider set.

      Been away from 2k18 for the past week, just needed to avoid getting completely burned out from the game. I'm gonna do a little testing tonight, just small tweaks at a time to make things a little easier to focus on and fix.

      Enjoy v2 until I fix the mess that was v3 (though v3 are still posted as a reference)
      Thanks.

      Gonna throw em on and see how they play.

      There might be a bug in the game where changing a slider and effectively changing the difficulty from SS or HoF, etc. to "custom" makes the AI really bad. There is another thread on here regarding it.

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      • EccentricMeat
        MVP
        • Aug 2011
        • 3240

        #243
        Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

        Originally posted by mfbmike
        Thanks.

        Gonna throw em on and see how they play.

        There might be a bug in the game where changing a slider and effectively changing the difficulty from SS or HoF, etc. to "custom" makes the AI really bad. There is another thread on here regarding it.
        I saw that thread a while back. It's definitely a possibility. I tweeted at the devs, but got no response back as far as what affect sliders and difficulty have on one another.

        And the devs have ignored the subject on the forums here as well so who knows

        As far as sliders are concerned, I went back to v2 and made these changes:


        Spoiler


        Give them a try and see if you like them!
        Last edited by EccentricMeat; 10-03-2017, 08:09 PM.
        My Slider Threads
        NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
        The "Movement" Sliders Explained
        The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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        • G0DZGiFT
          MVP
          • Feb 2007
          • 1741

          #244
          Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

          Originally posted by EccentricMeat
          I saw that thread a while back. It's definitely a possibility. I tweeted at the devs, but got no response back as far as what affect sliders and difficulty have on one another.



          And the devs have ignored the subject on the forums here as well so who knows



          As far as sliders are concerned, I went back to v2 and made these changes:





          Spoiler




          Give them a try and see if you like them!


          You got any stats?


          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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          • EccentricMeat
            MVP
            • Aug 2011
            • 3240

            #245
            Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

            Originally posted by G0DZGiFT
            You got any stats?


            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
            Nah, I haven't taken pictures of any stats yet as I'm constantly tweaking things. Still trying to get the AI to calm down on the 3pt attempts without neutering their offense. Once that issue is solved, it should be smooth sailing!
            My Slider Threads
            NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
            The "Movement" Sliders Explained
            The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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            • Stannisdad
              Banned
              • Oct 2015
              • 9

              #246
              Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

              Ive done lots of testing and I really had problems with getting the cpu to shoot enough free throws especially on shooting fouls even though I maxed out every user foul sliders. Probably because of intense-d making defense so easy that jumping to contest shots is just an inefficient option. Also observed that default hof sliders yields more 50/50 rebound animations, illegal picks, loose ball fouls all leading to non-rebound possessions. Also had trouble with balancing some of the contested shots going in with getting some of the wide open ones missing, seems to be too black and white.


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              • kaluis05
                Rookie
                • Oct 2016
                • 109

                #247
                Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                Originally posted by cam21224
                Decrease user shooting foul by five
                Thanks, will try it tonight. This thread really helps in getting the game more realistic. Keep it up guys.

                Sent from my D6653 using Tapatalk

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                • EccentricMeat
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3240

                  #248
                  Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                  Originally posted by Stannisdad
                  Ive done lots of testing and I really had problems with getting the cpu to shoot enough free throws especially on shooting fouls even though I maxed out every user foul sliders. Probably because of intense-d making defense so easy that jumping to contest shots is just an inefficient option. Also observed that default hof sliders yields more 50/50 rebound animations, illegal picks, loose ball fouls all leading to non-rebound possessions. Also had trouble with balancing some of the contested shots going in with getting some of the wide open ones missing, seems to be too black and white.


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports


                  I saw the opposite at HOF default as far as the 50/50 rebounds. At default the CPU would have multiple possessions where they got two offensive rebounds or more, it was ridiculous! My rebound sliders aren't perfected yet, but they definitely help even things out a bit (at least for me).

                  My foul sliders I can't see going any higher, as I don't want EVERY SINGLE LAYUP to be a guaranteed foul for the CPU. My current settings already make it close to a guarantee so I doubt I'll go higher. The main issue is getting other fouls called more often so that teams go to the line due to being in the bonus instead of only relying on shooting fouls.

                  And to balance open shots going in and contested shots missing, you need to tweak the Jump Shot Defense Strength sliders as well as the Shot Success sliders. The (Gather) defense slider essentially controls the "area of effect" a defender has on shooters. The higher the Gather slider, the harder ANY shot becomes to make as defenders don't even have to be actively contesting the shot for the game to view it as contested. The Release defense slider will add to that by making defenders close out more aggressively and contest shots more aggressively.

                  The best way to balance these is to leave it at default and increase ONLY the Jump Shot (Release) defense slider until you see the aggressiveness you want on close-outs and shot contests. Once you have that settled, adjust the shot success sliders until open shots go in almost every time. Then adjust the Jump Shot (Gather) defense slider until contested shots go in at the percentage you're looking for.
                  My Slider Threads
                  NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                  The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                  The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                  • KingWeigy23
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 115

                    #249
                    Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                    Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                    I saw that thread a while back. It's definitely a possibility. I tweeted at the devs, but got no response back as far as what affect sliders and difficulty have on one another.

                    And the devs have ignored the subject on the forums here as well so who knows

                    As far as sliders are concerned, I went back to v2 and made these changes:


                    Spoiler


                    Give them a try and see if you like them!
                    Farout this thread goes fast haha.

                    So just to confirm its v2 sliders with these updates above are our current go to sliders?> Cheers.
                    I am new here please be nice

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                    • StormsWarning
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2193

                      #250
                      Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                      awesome sliders thank you!
                      I stream a variety of video games for relaxation and fun.

                      https://youtube.com/@storm_warningz?feature=shared

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                      • EccentricMeat
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 3240

                        #251
                        Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                        Originally posted by StormsWarning
                        awesome sliders thank you!

                        Just curious, which version are you using?

                        Originally posted by KingWeigy23
                        Farout this thread goes fast haha.



                        So just to confirm its v2 sliders with these updates above are our current go to sliders?> Cheers.

                        Yup, v2 with those tweaks is what I'm currently running. I'll probably update the OP with the tweaks after a few more games!




                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                        My Slider Threads
                        NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                        The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                        The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                        • G0DZGiFT
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1741

                          #252
                          Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                          Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                          Just curious, which version are you using?




                          Yup, v2 with those tweaks is what I'm currently running. I'll probably update the OP with the tweaks after a few more games!




                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


                          I played a few games with the updated 2.0 last night. Much better. My only gripe is even with an elite defender like Kawhi, he didn’t feel elite. Other than that, it was fun. Xbox is having some issue where you can’t upload the screenshots so I’ll figure another way to show stats when I get home later.


                          Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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                          • Dione2014
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 720

                            #253
                            Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                            I think i've found a good balance on shooting:

                            mid range 65
                            3pt 65

                            Jump shot gather 54
                            jump shot release 99

                            I'm playing on real% so Numbers may lower on user timing (I find it much harder to shoot with timing.

                            Still a WIP but i'm trying to get the right percentages on closest defender stats. It doesn't have to be perfect, but i want it to be realistic. A good shooter should make 45-50 percent of his wide open (6 feet and beyond) shots, but i also want players with high contested shot ratings to make them at about 35-45 percent.

                            It's tough man as most of this is being done by eye test.

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                            • EccentricMeat
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3240

                              #254
                              Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                              Originally posted by G0DZGiFT
                              I played a few games with the updated 2.0 last night. Much better. My only gripe is even with an elite defender like Kawhi, he didn’t feel elite. Other than that, it was fun. Xbox is having some issue where you can’t upload the screenshots so I’ll figure another way to show stats when I get home later.


                              Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                              Yeah, I've gotta figure something out for that. I just don't want to make EVERYONE an elite defender but that might be the only way


                              EDIT: NEVERMIND, I'VE FIXED IT! Just one little change makes it perfect:

                              Attributes
                              On-Ball Defense - 70 (Leave USER at 60 unless you need a little more help)
                              Last edited by EccentricMeat; 10-05-2017, 03:15 AM.
                              My Slider Threads
                              NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                              The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                              The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                              • KingWeigy23
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 115

                                #255
                                Re: NBA 2K18 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

                                Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                                Yeah, I've gotta figure something out for that. I just don't want to make EVERYONE an elite defender but that might be the only way


                                EDIT: NEVERMIND, I'VE FIXED IT! Just one little change makes it perfect:

                                Attributes
                                On-Ball Defense - 70 (Leave USER at 60 unless you need a little more help)
                                Is this 60 for user and 70 for cpu or 70 for both?
                                I am new here please be nice

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