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  • 500bloc
    MVP
    • May 2003
    • 1279

    #106
    Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

    Originally posted by eraserx13
    I haven't had a chance to test on the injury sliders but I was able to look at the distributions of ratings in the current roster.

    This is helpful for comparing what the league should look like in tests on Barnsey's sliders and also a good guide on how to setup realistic draft classes.


    The picture may be hard to view. So here is the summary:


    95-99 OVR - 0.74% of the League (or 4 players) of 540 Players Recorded
    90-94 OVR - 1.85%
    85-89 OVR - 5.19%
    80-84 OVR - 5.93%
    75-79 OVR - 33.70%
    70-74 OVR - 30.37%
    65-69 OVR - 22.22%
    I'm in year 2031 of myleague simulation. I counted 150 players rated from 80 to 89. But there are only 5 players rated 90+. This is with these sliders being used. I'm in the process of tinkering around with them to see if I can get that number down
    Last edited by 500bloc; 10-14-2018, 06:35 PM.

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    • Teleo
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 2302

      #107
      Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

      Barnsey - PHENOMENAL work on these sliders! I want to ask: do you suffer any user injuries with the sliders being where they are at? Last year - I ran my dynasty on XBOX using Sim World’s roster and settings and their frequency and in game injury numbers were much higher than your findings so I am inquiring for your feedback on this. Thanks once again man! 👍🏻

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      • Barncore
        Formerly known as Barnsey
        • Aug 2003
        • 1337

        #108
        Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

        V4 released!

        This release is intended as the sister download for CelticLG's 2K19 roster on PS4, called the Attention To Detail roster. His latest update will be available within the next few days. Celt has put some serious hours into that roster for everybody. I contributed the player peaks, potentials and ambitions (i.e. play for winner, financial security, loyalty) so it makes an awesome pairing. Fully compatible.

        New in V2:

        ***Injury increase
        If injuries make you sad then you might want to adjust the injury settings (injury frequency in the "difficulty" section of the slider settings). But if you want realism then i have made some positive moves.
        Increasing injury frequency solves a few problems:
        1. Helps stop oversaturation of talent in 5-10 years.
        2. Allows teams to actually use the end of the roster and cycle through their team.
        3. Stops EVERY single player from reaching their potential.
        4. More variance/randomness across MyLeague saved files.
        5. And the fact that there were an unrealistically low amount of injuries in MyLeague by default.

        I know injuries suck but they are an unfortunate reality of the NBA landscape, and that's what these sliders are intended to replicate. If you don't like it, it's easy to change yourself.

        ***Chemistry and Morale matters more
        In the real NBA players perform better when playing with good players on a team that matters. Unless they don't care about winning and just wanna show out. I replicated this by making team chemistry a bigger part of the game. Getting a 99% team chemistry is more rare now, but the effects of good and bad chemistry is more significant now too.
        To go with that, if you use CelticLG's roster then you will get all my edits for player ambitions (play for winner, financial security, loyalty). All of these things affect player morale. Winning is obvious. Players with big financial ambition want more playing time, and Loyal players want contract extensions.

        ***Trade, Contract and Draft value tunings
        It's been 3 weeks since my last update. Over that time i've done some testing and now that research is reflected in v4.

        There are a few minor progression tunes too.

        This is now a complete MyLeague slider set ladies and gentlemen. It's not just a progression/regression set. It's the whole works.

        Overall i really tried to keep the oversaturation of talent at bay WITHOUT SACRIFICING THE NATURAL PROCESS OF GROWTH IN THE NBA. I'm aiming for that happy medium. It's one thing to make sliders with the intention of getting a certain result, but you don't want to overcompensate and choke the process.
        In the NBA from season to season there is HEAPS of movement. Random bench players break out, key starters get season ending injuries, old players lose a step. Things shift around quickly in the NBA! These sliders are intended to replicate that quick change (quicker than 2K default anyway). Your MyLeague should not be static, it should be dynamic and cyclical. On the flip side, i can't make players break out too much otherwise we get problems with oversaturation. So, hopefully you guys like the balance i found.

        Slider details in post 2 of page 1.

        PSN: barncore33
        Filename: BarnseyProgressions
        Last edited by Barncore; 10-15-2018, 02:53 PM.

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        • jakalfc
          MVP
          • Nov 2014
          • 1610

          #109
          Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

          can these cursors also be used with default rosters?

          Inviato dal mio SM-A510F utilizzando Tapatalk
          There is no particular team, I am a European with a passion for the NBA

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          • Barncore
            Formerly known as Barnsey
            • Aug 2003
            • 1337

            #110
            Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

            Originally posted by napoli
            can these cursors also be used with default rosters?

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            Imo the players in the default rosters have their "peak end" often too late. So players regress late. Which means oversaturation of talent is more likely 5+ years down the line. But other than that it should be fine.

            Edit: Oh, also, and the player ambitions and potentials that i've set up in CelticLG's roster are more true to life imo. But that's just a matter of perspective anyway, so it's not a big deal if you're happy to think that 2K default is accurate.
            Last edited by Barncore; 10-15-2018, 02:49 PM.

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            • Sternz1996
              Rookie
              • Mar 2012
              • 183

              #111
              Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

              I can't wait to test these out when I get back to school. Have you ever tried using JackMove's draft classes? I've helped consult on him making them and he's put a ton of time into creating a realistic crop of prospects. Would love to know how you think they work with your sliders and Celtic's roster.

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              • tylerjbrock33
                Banned
                • Aug 2018
                • 168

                #112
                Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                Hey man just ran a 4 year sim 2k rosters your myleague sliders off your 2kshare and default gameplay sliders. Simmed 4 years and have 106 80s and 15 90s. Where i can say I LOVE who becomes 90s and who drops out of 90s and how doncic booker ayton tatum mitchell amd even 2 generated rookies become 90s by year 4 thats a beautiful sight. But 106 80s is crazy. 6 89s. 3 88s. 8 87s. 6 86s. 17 85s. 6 84s. 11 83s. 8 82s. 17 81s. 24 80s.

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                • tylerjbrock33
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2018
                  • 168

                  #113
                  Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                  Originally posted by tylerjbrock33
                  Hey man just ran a 4 year sim 2k rosters your myleague sliders off your 2kshare and default gameplay sliders. Simmed 4 years and have 106 80s and 15 90s. Where i can say I LOVE who becomes 90s and who drops out of 90s and how doncic booker ayton tatum mitchell amd even 2 generated rookies become 90s by year 4 thats a beautiful sight. But 106 80s is crazy. 6 89s. 3 88s. 8 87s. 6 86s. 17 85s. 6 84s. 11 83s. 8 82s. 17 81s. 24 80s.

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                  Year 5. 14 90s. Still good. 125 80s. And noticed not a single team has cap room all in the negative. 44 of your generated draft class guys end up 80+. Im not even trying to rip ur set because theres VERY good turnout from them outside of the two noted issues.

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                  • Comduklakis
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1887

                    #114
                    Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                    Barnsey, any leads on quality draft classes to go with these. I'm looking for both a real player 2019 class and some quality fictional classes with proper tendencies, peaks, etc. going forward.
                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...y-cant-we.html

                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ow-2012-a.html

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                    • Barncore
                      Formerly known as Barnsey
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1337

                      #115
                      Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                      Thanks for reporting the feedback Tyler!

                      Bigger sample size from other people needed too.
                      Originally posted by Sternz1996
                      I can't wait to test these out when I get back to school. Have you ever tried using JackMove's draft classes? I've helped consult on him making them and he's put a ton of time into creating a realistic crop of prospects. Would love to know how you think they work with your sliders and Celtic's roster.
                      I saw his name on the 2K share server but haven't checked them out yet. I will check em out now that you've recommended them. Thanks!
                      Originally posted by Comduklakis
                      Barnsey, any leads on quality draft classes to go with these. I'm looking for both a real player 2019 class and some quality fictional classes with proper tendencies, peaks, etc. going forward.
                      Da Infamous NY makes the best 2019 class imo. He is amazingly accurate in terms of look, animations, attributes, tendencies. I can't vouch for the draft strength in terms of oversaturation of talent but apart from that his class is by far the best i've used: https://forums.operationsports.com/f...class-ps4.html

                      Jeb4056 made a good fictional draft class: https://forums.operationsports.com/f...t-classes.html

                      These guys haven't finished their first draft class yet but when they do i know it will be high quality and realistic, so keep an eye on it: https://forums.operationsports.com/f...-nba-2k19.html

                      I'm still trying to find quality draft classes myself. There is some trash with high download numbers on the 2K share server.

                      I'm gonna be making a fictional draft class myself so keep an eye out for that.

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                      • mulanlucic
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 6

                        #116
                        Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                        Originally posted by BigOrangeVol4Life
                        Barncore, any thoughts off the top of your head on how these might work with CPU vs CPU? I'm going to wait on the patch to drop and then watch a few games using these. I'll post the results and stats.

                        Thank you for all your hard work putting these together.



                        i used retrodee's movement sliders last night and it made for a very realistic and fun cpu vs cpu time

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                        • Teleo
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 2302

                          #117
                          Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                          Barnsey - I have begun a Knicks franchise and I am 7 games in - I play CPU vs CPU and have implemented your settings AS IS with no adjustments - I am wanting to know if you (or anyone else) are seeing a good amount of injuries - Now - I am not desiring an unrealistic amount but I have had no injuries to my Knicks team and have only seen one against the CPU in which I actually played and that was Giannis with a high ankle sprain and he was out 2-4 weeks. Thank you for any input and thank you for your hard work! 👍🏻

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                          • trusaleen1
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 384

                            #118
                            Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                            Barncore, have you made any updates to your game play sliders on the PSN? Is it still a work in progress?

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                            • tonyt8605
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 353

                              #119
                              Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                              Are you real player or user timing for shots and free throws?

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                              • Lordlily1
                                Just started!
                                • Oct 2018
                                • 1

                                #120
                                Re: Barnsey's MyLEAGUE player Progression/Regression sliders (2k19)

                                I'm seeing way too much regression in all teams. Played as the thunder, after 1 season PG13 had dropped to an 87 while happy (actual rating an 86) and westbrook dropped to a 91 while happy (same applies). All the other players above the age of like 25 had regressed as well, even steven adams. Any tips on stopping regression?

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