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  • EccentricMeat
    MVP
    • Aug 2011
    • 3240

    #1036
    Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

    Originally posted by GrantF330
    So ..... I haven’t found a slider set that I’m settled with yet.......... I’m trying YOURS this evening. My problem is I must REALLY suck at shooting..... I USUALLY use Real FG% for shooting......BUT STILL I got guys like Zion and Ingram missing layups and little jumpers that I KNOW they would make....





    So my QUESTION IS if I use Real FG% with your slider set will it effect much????



    SECOND question.... if I can’t use Real FG% and have to use timing any tips or tricks to be better?
    Real FG% needs different Shot Success sliders than User Timing, so it’s not typically something you can just plug and play with as-is. Worth a try though.

    I’d recommend user timing as it can be much more challenging, engaging, and rewarding. The frustration of missing a wide open shot to tie up the game is a lot easier to deal with if you know you miss-timed the release, rather than the game just deciding that you deserved to miss with Real FG%.

    If you’re terrible at timing the shot, go into freestyle Practice mode and learn the animations for each of your players. Make sure you have Shot Feedback turned on in the Settings menu, so that you can see how well you timed the shot AND see how open/contested the game qualified that shot attempt. It may also be worth turning on the shot meter and timing the release that way (though I personally hate on-screen overlays like that as it feels like a mini-game instead of just a flowing game of basketball).


    Originally posted by rlb1976
    From what I'm reading from Schnaidt and Eccentric it sounds like a lot more testing is needed. I guess my MyLeague is back on hold lol. Well, at least it's the all-star break.


    There is always a need for more testing. But that’s just because some of us are obsessed with getting every tiny detail of gameplay the way we view is “right”. That’s not to say that you can’t have an incredibly enjoyable game without the constant testing behind it. I’ve had some of my best games on early test sets that were nowhere near ready to be posted on this forum.

    People bought TVs in the 70s, but those weren’t anywhere near the quality of the 4K HDR OLED options we have today. Does that mean those TVs weren’t worth buying and using? [emoji41]
    Last edited by EccentricMeat; 02-14-2020, 05:26 PM.
    My Slider Threads
    NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
    The "Movement" Sliders Explained
    The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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    • GaloVingador
      Pro
      • Mar 2018
      • 564

      #1037
      Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

      Originally posted by EccentricMeat
      The Release settings don’t affect AI decision making, just the Gather/Takeoff settings do.

      While 25 is lower than 45, neither is very high and both are below the default 50. Basically the gap isn’t large enough and/or the Layup Takeoff setting isn’t high enough for it to actually affect shot success, so it’s not a deterrent to the AI.

      It’s not a theory though, the AI certainly knows what the shot quality is when they have the ball. They choose whether to shoot or not based off that shot quality. Let me explain:

      If they’re in a position where a nearby defender is making the shot qualify as “heavily contested” or similar, they’re unlikely to take that shot. If they know a shot would qualify as “wide open” they’re very likely to take that shot. Obviously player tendencies and slider tendencies play a role here as well, as the higher the tendency is for a player to take a certain shot, the more lenient the game is on allowing that player to take a contested shot. If the tendency is low, you will typically only see that shot be taken if they’re wide open. And if the tendency is low enough you will only see that shot taken at the end of the shot clock.

      This is how the Defense Strength sliders affect AI decision making. These settings affect which shots are viewed as wide open, lightly contested, heavily contested, etc. The more contested the game registers the start of the shot, the less likely the AI is to take it. With this knowledge you can fine tune the AI’s decision making:

      Want the AI to be more picky in which jump shots they’re willing to take? Increase the Jump Shot Gather setting so that there has to be more space between the shooter and the defender in order for a shot to qualify as “wide open” or “lightly contested”. Want the AI to be less picky? Decrease the Gather setting (around 25 where you have it is great for this) so that defenders can be right in front of them and the game still views the shot as “wide open”.

      I could go on and on as I’m pretty obsessed with the Defense sliders, as they control soooo much more than most would expect.
      I hope you don't give up before giving us a full set of yours, because if it has the same quality as your posts, it will be epic.

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      • EccentricMeat
        MVP
        • Aug 2011
        • 3240

        #1038
        Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

        Originally posted by GaloVingador
        I hope you don't give up before giving us a full set of yours, because if it has the same quality as your posts, it will be epic.


        I REALLY want to get a full set posted, as I haven’t done so since 2K18. But even if I get too burned out to do so, I will still be around to discuss sliders and (hopefully) help others understand them better, making the job easier for everyone.

        I think I’ve found a remedy for my burnout problem though. I no longer test in Quick Play/Play Now (whatever it’s called) and instead only test in MyLEAGUE. This way I’m actually invested in the gameplay and working towards something, rather than just wasting empty hours. Plus there’s the added bonus of learning what players I want to keep on the team and build around, and which players I just can’t stand to use or can’t use effectively, which helps me build my team while building my slider set [emoji1305]
        My Slider Threads
        NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
        The "Movement" Sliders Explained
        The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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        • GrantF330
          Rookie
          • Feb 2015
          • 89

          #1039
          First off thank you all for your reply... so being new to the “shot timing world” what option do you all pick for the shot meter?? “By hands with splash” etc

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          • GaloVingador
            Pro
            • Mar 2018
            • 564

            #1040
            Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

            Originally posted by GrantF330
            First off thank you all for your reply... so being new to the “shot timing world” what option do you all pick for the shot meter?? “By hands with splash” etc
            Personal preference and doesn't really matter, I believe. This seems to be only the styling of the overlay. I use "by hands with splash" because it's the default, or just "off" if I'm adventurous.

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            • GrantF330
              Rookie
              • Feb 2015
              • 89

              #1041
              So..

              So thank you all again for the help....
              Let me preface this with this is my First Full game (Played 10 minute Quarters)
              I played since I bought this year 2K and it was actually a little more enjoyable .
              THIS was my FIRST time using shot meter and Shot timing as layed out in these sliders...
              I got stomped 102- 130... i was Pelican VS Raptors

              I noticed I was ALWAYS slightly early or Slightly late
              Only ONE time did I ever hit green... so I don’t get that because the meter filled up the same for when it said “slightly early and Slightly late”
              QUESTION—-> if you use meter your supposed to try to stop it when it’s full right? Obviously?

              So me as Pelicans
              102 points
              34/86 (40%) FG
              13/29 (45%) 3pts
              21/27 (78%) Free Throws
              13 Fast break points
              22 points in paint

              VS

              THEM as Raptors

              130 points
              56/89 (63%) FG%
              10/22 (45%) 3 pointers
              8/15. (53%) Free Throws
              41 Fast break points
              80 points in paint....

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              • GaloVingador
                Pro
                • Mar 2018
                • 564

                #1042
                Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                Green is rare, it means a perfect release and the ball goes in 100%, even if covered. Very tight window to hit it.

                Your 2-point percentage was lowish, but 3-point was pretty good, I rarely get a 45%, you got the hang of it.

                Biggest problem for you on this game was defense, 63% fg for CPU is crazy high, you probably allowed them too many open shots.

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                • schnaidt1
                  All Star
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5213

                  #1043
                  Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                  Because it's designed to play on broadcast, i recommend using by hands because when it's by the feet, you can run into issues seeing it
                  Originally posted by GrantF330
                  First off thank you all for your reply... so being new to the “shot timing world” what option do you all pick for the shot meter?? “By hands with splash” etc
                  Follow me on twitter @schnaidt1 and Youtube @Sim Gaming Network

                  Games I'm playing: NBA 2k, Madden, MLB the Show, Division 2, Warzone

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                  • schnaidt1
                    All Star
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 5213

                    #1044
                    Re: So..

                    Working on the points in the paint issue
                    Originally posted by GrantF330
                    So thank you all again for the help....
                    Let me preface this with this is my First Full game (Played 10 minute Quarters)
                    I played since I bought this year 2K and it was actually a little more enjoyable .
                    THIS was my FIRST time using shot meter and Shot timing as layed out in these sliders...
                    I got stomped 102- 130... i was Pelican VS Raptors

                    I noticed I was ALWAYS slightly early or Slightly late
                    Only ONE time did I ever hit green... so I don’t get that because the meter filled up the same for when it said “slightly early and Slightly late”
                    QUESTION—-> if you use meter your supposed to try to stop it when it’s full right? Obviously?

                    So me as Pelicans
                    102 points
                    34/86 (40%) FG
                    13/29 (45%) 3pts
                    21/27 (78%) Free Throws
                    13 Fast break points
                    22 points in paint

                    VS

                    THEM as Raptors

                    130 points
                    56/89 (63%) FG%
                    10/22 (45%) 3 pointers
                    8/15. (53%) Free Throws
                    41 Fast break points
                    80 points in paint....
                    Follow me on twitter @schnaidt1 and Youtube @Sim Gaming Network

                    Games I'm playing: NBA 2k, Madden, MLB the Show, Division 2, Warzone

                    Please subscribe to my youtube channel for gaming content. https://youtu.be/PXU8cqLnq6w

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                    • GrantF330
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 89

                      #1045
                      Me again

                      Hey me again. The new guy at using “shot timing” I posted my first game Pelicans (me) vs Rap (cpu)
                      It was a blow out , here was my second game. ALOT closer I even had a 14 point lead and it fell apart my team we t cold... THE ODD thing I’m noticing and I do t know if there is a slider adjustment for this but on the shot meter I’m noticing if I time it one way it’s mostly full it says feed back is slightly early ... if I do it again the same timing it will say slightly late heck even at the foul line there’s times shot meter is at half and it will say early and go in then I release a little about that it will say slightly early and miss ( I almost wonder if the shot meter is broke somehow )

                      Anyways
                      Me -Pelicans
                      Points-108
                      FG 39/84 46%
                      3 point 13/36 36%
                      FT 17/28 61%
                      Fast break pts 16
                      Points in paint 38

                      CPU Dallas Mavs
                      Points - 114
                      FG 43/82 52%
                      3 pts 8/23 35 %
                      FT 20/26 77%
                      Fast Break 22
                      Points in paint 62

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                      • trusaleen1
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 384

                        #1046
                        Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                        this may be a dumb question, what do the myleague simulations sliders do, what are they used for?

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                        • tall.canadian
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 65

                          #1047
                          Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                          Are the sliders on the first page the updated set?

                          Thanks!


                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                          • schnaidt1
                            All Star
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5213

                            #1048
                            Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                            They were, until 2k messed things up.

                            I'm very close to an update.

                            Ps4 guys!! Please grab my test sliders uploaded. This is where I'm at. I'm liking it but need more results. Please try them out and let me know before i upload to the OP.


                            Thank you!!
                            Originally posted by tall.canadian
                            Are the sliders on the first page the updated set?

                            Thanks!


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            Follow me on twitter @schnaidt1 and Youtube @Sim Gaming Network

                            Games I'm playing: NBA 2k, Madden, MLB the Show, Division 2, Warzone

                            Please subscribe to my youtube channel for gaming content. https://youtu.be/PXU8cqLnq6w

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                            • rlb1976
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 617

                              #1049
                              Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                              Originally posted by schnaidt1
                              They were, until 2k messed things up.

                              I'm very close to an update.

                              Ps4 guys!! Please grab my test sliders uploaded. This is where I'm at. I'm liking it but need more results. Please try them out and let me know before i upload to the OP.


                              Thank you!!

                              https://www.youtube.com/user/schnaidt1
                              Should we test them with the previously recommended game speed and movement settings?

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                              • dazzl
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2019
                                • 38

                                #1050
                                Re: Schnaidt1's 2k20 MyLeague and Gameplay Sliders

                                I think personal preference.


                                Originally posted by rlb1976
                                Should we test them with the previously recommended game speed and movement settings?

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