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  • rangerrick012
    All Star
    • Jan 2010
    • 6201

    #121
    Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

    Originally posted by jeebs9
    One of the things that make me throw my controller is when....my friend intentionally fouls me. And I have no chance of getting a shot off while he is fouling me....They should be the a way to break the animation and get a and 1 called. The window should be small.....but most importantly should be there.

    But on the other hand...when I'm trying to foul and stop the clock. All my opponent has to do is.... Quick pass it around and my team can't get a fouled called. Or when I'm close to. The foul animation starts and then breaks it because my opponent made a pass.
    I definitely agree w/ the first part and most of the second part of your post, but I will say that I have had it happen when I or someone I'm playing passes the ball but the intentional foul is still called after the pass. That's the only part of your post I disagree with, cause I have seen that happen w/o an animation to stop the foul from being called.
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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #122
      Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

      ^^Never seen that before^^ Was it an intentional foul...or a regular foul. I've seen charges get called really late. When you pass out of the shot.
      Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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      • Jeffx
        MVP
        • Jan 2007
        • 3045

        #123
        Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

        I smashed a controller while playing last Saturday. Five times my guy leaves Paul Pierce or Ray Allen to double the post player. You know what happens next. I set double-teams to 'never', so why do they keep doing this crap?

        Same crap happens when the CPU point guard drives the lane, and three of my defenders converge on him, leaving three-point shooters wide open. Stay on your man! You have no control on what your defenders do.

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        • rangerrick012
          All Star
          • Jan 2010
          • 6201

          #124
          Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          ^^Never seen that before^^ Was it an intentional foul...or a regular foul. I've seen charges get called really late. When you pass out of the shot.
          Intentional Foul. I've had it occur where I'm trying to dribble out the clock and the intentional foul is called after I pass. This is player vs player though, so you may be right in that it doesn't happen player vs CPU as often.
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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #125
            Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

            Originally posted by Jeffx
            I smashed a controller while playing last Saturday. Five times my guy leaves Paul Pierce or Ray Allen to double the post player. You know what happens next. I set double-teams to 'never', so why do they keep doing this crap?

            Same crap happens when the CPU point guard drives the lane, and three of my defenders converge on him, leaving three-point shooters wide open. Stay on your man! You have no control on what your defenders do.
            I've learned that a lot of the double teaming is because of "help defense" slider. Especially with Boston. They have the slider at around 90. Just bring it down. You won't see any of that.
            Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #126
              Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

              Originally posted by rangerrick012
              Intentional Foul. I've had it occur where I'm trying to dribble out the clock and the intentional foul is called after I pass. This is player vs player though, so you may be right in that it doesn't happen player vs CPU as often.
              I play a lot of player vs player matches...Probably about 98% of my 2k time is vs another human. And I have to say I've never seen a intentional foul after the pass.
              Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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              • Jeffx
                MVP
                • Jan 2007
                • 3045

                #127
                Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                Originally posted by jeebs9
                I've learned that a lot of the double teaming is because of "help defense" slider. Especially with Boston. They have the slider at around 90. Just bring it down. You won't see any of that.
                I have to go to each individual team and change the help slider, jeebs? What numer, in your opinion?

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                • jeebs9
                  Fear is the Unknown
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 47568

                  #128
                  Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                  I'm saying when your playing with whatever team...Just check the help defense slider. You won't get those stupid players leaving their man...or double teaming
                  Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                  • rangerrick012
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 6201

                    #129
                    Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    I play a lot of player vs player matches...Probably about 98% of my 2k time is vs another human. And I have to say I've never seen a intentional foul after the pass.
                    I don't know what to say then. It is rare, but I have had it happen a few times.

                    "The foul animation starts and then breaks it because my opponent made a pass."

                    Yep. That's what happens, but the pass is made and the foul is still called.

                    But it definitely should be implemented better in 2k11.
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                    • youngfaze01
                      MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 1028

                      #130
                      Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                      These animations are just killing the game IMO. Animations slow you down. For an example, I tried to lay it up with Perkins, then the no-foul animation happened when Gasol contested me, so the ball fell on the floor, which I had plenty of time to pick up, but the animation carried through so I could not get the ball. Another animation was when I swapped the ball out of Fisher's hand with Rondo, the ball bounced across the court, but once again the animation carried through so Fisher was able to retrieve the ball. It's really frustrating.

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                      • NINJAK2
                        *S *dd*ct
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 6185

                        #131
                        Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                        Originally posted by Kully
                        I play 12 minute quarters.

                        I'm leading the league with fewest turnovers by quite a large margin. There needs to be more turnovers (and a variety of them, not only just tossing the ball away due to a bad pass).

                        I know developers believe we do not like control taken out of our hands in these situations, but to properly emulate basketball there needs to be a variety of ways to lose the ball.
                        True Kully. I would be ok with it but some people may not like randomly occuring turnovers happening beyond their control. Example: Final seconds. suns down 1. I call a pick n roll with Amare using Nash. Amare sets a good screen and cuts to basket. I hit him with a great pass that goes off his hands and out of bounds. Clock expires. Game over. These situations should happen a lot more in 2k10 imo(Random TO's) I just know the majority of consumers would cry about these kind of things.

                        On another note I know some people have issues with the control in 2k10 as well. Some people want pinpoint control being able to interupt animations any time they want. I both agree and disagree with that. I understand people not wanting to get stuck in animations but I also think you shouldn't be allowed to disregard the laws of physics once you start an action in a particular direction. You should not be able to cut on a dime or disregard momentum. This is such a hard thing to get down in hoops games imo. The thing that irks me about 2k10 the most regarding movement is that the user seems to get punished more with momentum when trying to move slowly more so than when you are mashing on turbo. That should be the opposite imo.
                        Last edited by NINJAK2; 06-08-2010, 06:38 PM.
                        EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                        • cubsball899
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 1744

                          #132
                          Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                          Originally posted by NINJAK2
                          True Kully. I would be ok with it but some people may not like randomly occuring turnovers happening beyond their control. Example: Final seconds. suns down 1. I call a pick n roll with Amare using Nash. Amare sets a good screen and cuts to basket. I hit him with a great pass that goes off his hands and out of bounds. Clock expires. Game over. These situations should happen a lot more in 2k10 imo(Random TO's) I just know the majority of consumers would cry about these kind of things.


                          exactly, instead, the defense should play well and deflect passes so you can't pass it to a cutter with such ease. either that or there has to be random turnovers so the offense isn't over powerful like it is at this point.

                          On another note I know some people have issues with the control in 2k10 as well. Some people want pinpoint control being able to interupt animations any time they want. I both agree and disagree with that. I understand people not wanting to get stuck in animations but I also think you shouldn't be allowed to disregard the laws of physics once you start an action in a particular direction. You should not be able to cut on a dime or disregard momentum. This is such a hard thing to get down in hoops games imo. The thing that irks me about 2k10 the most regarding movement is that the user seems to get punished more with momentum when trying to move slowly more so than when you are mashing on turbo. That should be the opposite imo.

                          i played 2k10 last night for the first time in forever at my buddies house, i'm used to playin college hoops 2k8 and i was BLOWN AWAY at how little control i had over my players. thats all i'm going to say.
                          my responses in bold.

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                          • NINJAK2
                            *S *dd*ct
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 6185

                            #133
                            Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                            True cubs. I remember nba 2k6 or 2k7 used to have a walk button(right trigger?)That really helped in getting to spots for plays or avoiding suction charges. 2k10 punishes subtle movements too severely imo with unneeded momentum and doesn't punish all out turbo movement nearly enough with it.
                            EA and 2k have the unfortunate task of trying to balance on a tightrope of fun and sim while trying not to fall 10,000 feet to their death. Instead of a safety net waiting down below there will just be angry customers quick to move out of the way and talk of their failure.

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                            • Kaanyr Vhok
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2248

                              #134
                              Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                              Originally posted by NINJAK2
                              True cubs. I remember nba 2k6 or 2k7 used to have a walk button(right trigger?)That really helped in getting to spots for plays or avoiding suction charges. 2k10 punishes subtle movements too severely imo with unneeded momentum and doesn't punish all out turbo movement nearly enough with it.

                              I miss the walk button but I got use to the suttle walk in 2k10. What sucks though is that the guards dont protect the ball better. The steal animations will eat you up when you walk.

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                              • Altimus
                                Chelsea, Assemble!
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 27283

                                #135
                                Re: Things in 2k10 that just make you want to throw the controller

                                No post up button was even a bigger problem, for me anyway. You would just prance and dance around with your big until you got the post up animation. This would sometimes translate into broken plays because of wasted time or forced shots.

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