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  • threes_co
    Banned
    • Sep 2009
    • 1930

    #61
    Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

    Originally posted by ******Pride
    ? I'm sure it's based on the individual shot. It won't look at it and say: hey, this guy is 2-2 so he is due a miss.

    When you miss an open three with Ray because you mistimed the shot stick, please don't complain about the game being unforgiving and unrealistic.
    We'll see.
    Bet we'll have a complaint thread about this by the end of 2010.

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    • Gosens6
      All Star
      • Oct 2007
      • 6100

      #62
      Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

      Originally posted by ******Pride
      Yep. That's how I play. Real FT%. You don't have to time it. Just flick the stick and the player does the rest.

      Like NDAlum, I'm going to use Real FG%. I have long hated the idea of the user having power over statistics. Its worse in baseball and not my idea of fun in basketball. I respect everyone that wants the risk/reward of the shot stick. I get it, completely. But, I don't like that risk/reward. I like to know that when I take a jump shot with Kobe Bryant, Kobe's real numbers will determine the success of the shot, not me.

      I know for many that sounds backwards and the argument is always: "It's a video game. If you want real life, just watch the game."

      For those that say that, I guess you'll just never get it.
      I couldn't have said it better myself. Us guys that want real statistics and sim basketball will absolutely LOVE this feature. Will make you think about the type of shot you're taking that much more.

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      • NDAlum
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        • Jun 2010
        • 11453

        #63
        Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

        I'd say we see many more "X players shot release is so hard to shoot with" threads
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        • CMH
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          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #64
          Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

          Originally posted by ace23
          We'll see.
          Bet we'll have a complaint thread about this by the end of 2010.
          Of course we will. Gamers love to complain, but it will be the first thread compared to hundreds we've already seen on OS regarding the shot stick. Give people a board and they will post in it.
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          • jfsolo
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            • May 2003
            • 12965

            #65
            Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

            We need to have two totally separate boards for online and offline players. That way those machismo online ballers can congregate together in a mutual admiration society congratulating each other on their Alpha male stick skills.

            I know there are a lot of cool online ballers here, but there are a lot who just bug with their preening. Please fellas, stop quoting the peacocks so I don't see their drivel.
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            • NDAlum
              ND
              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #66
              Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

              Originally posted by jfsolo
              We need to have two totally separate boards for online and offline players. That way those machismo online ballers can congregate together in a mutual admiration society congratulating each other on their Alpha male stick skills.

              I know there are a lot of cool online ballers here, but there are a lot who just bug with their preening. Please fellas, stop quoting the peacocks so I don't see their drivel.
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              • Goffs
                New Ork Giants
                • Feb 2003
                • 12279

                #67
                Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                [quote=Crossover1;2041660946]Real player % are for kids and cop-outs. Shot Stick/button timing are for men and highly skilled players. SMH @ people wanting control but now wanting some automatic crap that u dont have to really work for. I want 2K to take this feature out because there is no learning curve to this.[/quote]

                yeah...NO! its a damn option something you DONT have to use ffs...more options the BETTER..

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                • Scott
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20032

                  #68
                  Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                  Or maybe it's for players who want their players to play realistic to their ratings.
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                  • Crossover1
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1925

                    #69
                    Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                    @Goffs

                    The same can be said about cheesing and exploits - Its an option too but u dont have to use it.
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                    • fatleg3
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3602

                      #70
                      Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                      Originally posted by ******Pride
                      ? I'm sure it's based on the individual shot. It won't look at it and say: hey, this guy is 2-2 so he is due a miss.

                      When you miss an open three with Ray because you mistimed the shot stick, please don't complain about the game being unforgiving and unrealistic.
                      i see where hes coming from though. like it was explained real% basically disregards the stick so missing with allen wouldnt be because you mistimed the stick.

                      But i dont know why this has to turn into a offline vs online thing. Which ever one you like dose not have to do anything with which ever way you play the game.

                      But me personally i will use the shot stick. I feel like if i want shooting stats to mimic real life then why not have every other stat the same. Heck why not rebounding mimic real life and have d12 automatically get 11 to 12 boards a game, and so on.

                      To me that is why i play a video game so i can take whats giving to me which is nba players and teams then use my skills to win. thats the point of me having a controller in my hands. I know its not elite shooting controls where it on you if u make or miss but i do want to have some satisfaction on making a shoot and i just wont have that if its up to a something else on weather or not the shoot goes in.

                      Not to compare games but in the elite forum i said i love the shooting because it is the closest any game has gotten to mimic real life shotting. Ignore how hard or easy it is to make a shoot. Im just talking about the concept of it. No game can mimic what it takes to make a shoot irl. Thats bending of the wrist, follow through, power with legs, guide hand, etc, etc. No game can make you have to worry bout those things unless they gave you a body suit with a ball that has a motion sensors in them lol. But Elite is on the right track with holding the stick up for the power, and timing, and holding it in the right direction for accuracy. its the first time where you have power,accuracy, and timing to control which the things that effect shooting just without the fundamentals. With 2k they at least have the timing so i would hate for it to be taking away and not have no influence what so ever on my shot besides getting open

                      I also dont get the argument the sig animations make it difficult to make shots with certain players. Well if you take the time to learn the controls why cant it be the same with shooting. If you want to be good with a certain team or shooter then you will have to practice shooting with him just like you would dribbling

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                      • Cripterion
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                        • Sep 2010
                        • 409

                        #71
                        Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                        Hmmm hard to say how I feel about this without trying it beforehand but I do wonder if it's totally real player percentage based what's the point of playing then?

                        Obviously choosing the right team will be a big factor when playing with this option on.

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                        • threes_co
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                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1930

                          #72
                          Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                          @fatleg


                          Great post

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                          • OSUFan_88
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                            • Jul 2004
                            • 25642

                            #73
                            Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                            Originally posted by fatleg3
                            I also dont get the argument the sig animations make it difficult to make shots with certain players. Well if you take the time to learn the controls why cant it be the same with shooting. If you want to be good with a certain team or shooter then you will have to practice shooting with him just like you would dribbling
                            I don't know about most, but sometimes I just get into the mood to play as a certain guy and have fun. I don't have time to learn every single person's release point in the game, nor do I want to take that time.

                            I'm playing offline anyway, so I don't see why it's such a big deal for me to use it. If I am a lesser player because of it, so be it, but I love it that the option is there for me.
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                            • NDAlum
                              ND
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 11453

                              #74
                              Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                              It comes down to me not wanting to score 25/gm with a subpar player because he has an easy release.

                              That's what happened in the past for me. I much rather let their ratings take over, not the animation.
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                              • fatleg3
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                                • Aug 2008
                                • 3602

                                #75
                                Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                                Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                                I don't know about most, but sometimes I just get into the mood to play as a certain guy and have fun. I don't have time to learn every single person's release point in the game, nor do I want to take that time.

                                I'm playing offline anyway, so I don't see why it's such a big deal for me to use it. If I am a lesser player because of it, so be it, but I love it that the option is there for me.
                                Im by far not knocking those that will use it.

                                I was just saying why i personally dont like it.

                                With timing release i have never had problems with stats being inflated or deflated because i played exatly how the team irl plays and shots i pose to make go in and shots dont im not pose to make dont go in as long as im playing on one of the higher difficulty levels. With sub par scorers i for one have never been able to put up numbers they would not put up first because i would not center my offense around them are take that many shoots to score that much with them and second their ratings would not let me score that much.(EDIT):I took nash out because i think jamesion is worst lol) But if i got rashad lewis and i have antwan jameison gaurding him im going to take advantage of that seeing that he is one of the worst defenders in the league and im going to give lewis the ball and let him take him off the dribble cause thats what lewis do and also im going to have lewis cutting to spot up and i fully expect him to hit his shoots if he is open because irl antwan can not keep shaq in front of him if he wanted to. Using real% would take that advantage away

                                When players miss a wide open shot what are you going to say? O its ok because he has to mimic his real life shootng percentages.

                                The only reason stats get crazy is when im playing some cheeser online. And offline the fact that the added a simulation mode makes it even better
                                Last edited by fatleg3; 09-26-2010, 09:15 PM.

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