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  • EyeGotSoul
    Rookie
    • Jan 2014
    • 468

    #8431
    re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

    Really glad to read that NWGamedad is back here to clarify things. And big ups to Anchen for his giant brain lol you were pretty much right over and over. Now that we clearly know how the cards are randomly distributed, unfortunately, now I clearly know how bad my luck is haha
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    Ryan
    Lakers
    MVP: Kobe Bryant
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    • doctorhay53
      MVP
      • Aug 2005
      • 1360

      #8432
      re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

      Originally posted by NWGameDad
      Anchen is correct. Your sample set is just so small you end up feeling like you're seeing patterns when it is just random. When we look across the millions of cards we give out each day then you get the expected distribution based on percentages. Go flip a coin 10 times. You should get 5 heads and 5 tails, right? I doubt it will work out that way though with just 10 flips. Try 100, a 1000, 10,000. As you get more and more the 50/50 you're supposed to get turns out to be closer to true vs. just your 10 flips alone.


      NWGameDad
      Senior Producer
      Cat Daddy Games
      Thanks to you, I just flipped a coin a million times.

      Ok I did it in python. Anyway I got 499602 heads.

      Could you give us a ballpark figure on the legendary rate? I'd like to calculate my expectation value after having about 17,000 picks without getting one.
      Go Colts, Go Irish!!

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      • Anchen
        Rookie
        • Dec 2013
        • 493

        #8433
        re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

        Originally posted by kaykay4se7en
        Right! That def makes sense! I know the server transmits what card to give out but what I wanna know is, are there rares/epics/legendaries that are more "common" than others in the same rarity class?
        If I had to guess, it would be no, no card is more common or rare within the same rarity as another. Humans as a whole have trouble with randomness. Try googling/wiking things like Gambler's Fallacy or Hot Hand Fallacy, etc. There is a lot of stuff with probability that is no intuitive to how the mind works but is true. Example for cognitive bias of most humans I roll a *fair* 6 sided die 10 times. Here are the results in order:

        1 5 3 5 2 4 6 2 1 5

        I roll it again 10 times:

        1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1

        These each have a 1/60466176 (this is 6^10, or 6 to the 10th power) chance of happening. One "looks" a lot more random than the other though doesn't it? If you really want to nerd up some statistics can read something like this: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Probability/Combinatorics

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        • Benitezj10
          MVP
          • Feb 2014
          • 1045

          #8434
          re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

          Originally posted by doctorhay53
          Thanks to you, I just flipped a coin a million times.

          Ok I did it in python. Anyway I got 499602 heads.

          Could you give us a ballpark figure on the legendary rate? I'd like to calculate my expectation value after having about 17,000 picks without getting one.

          I saw a tweet a couple weeks ago that was released by 2k but I can't find it any more I was looking for it to post here, but they said the chances to draft a legendary card was less than 1% it might have been .0034 or
          .034. I wish I had saved the tweet when I had the chance


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          • Anchen
            Rookie
            • Dec 2013
            • 493

            #8435
            re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

            Originally posted by doctorhay53
            Thanks to you, I just flipped a coin a million times.

            Ok I did it in python. Anyway I got 499602 heads.

            Could you give us a ballpark figure on the legendary rate? I'd like to calculate my expectation value after having about 17,000 picks without getting one.
            If I had to guess, the rate is probably a little *worse* than what most people think. Consider there are probably thousands of accounts with say ~200 wins or less, that have no legendaries. We'd never have any of those people come in here to this thread probably. But those picks "happened" and thus for every 1 person who comes here about how they got a legendary in their first ~1500 picks, there is probably about a thousand who never and will never say anything to us. And then there is a lot of people who like you hadn't gotten a legendary.

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            • Anchen
              Rookie
              • Dec 2013
              • 493

              #8436
              re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

              I'd like to also state that I think I am in drhay's season with NWGameDad and I'm currently getting my *** kicked by the dev Think I'll try for a first round exit.

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              • doctorhay53
                MVP
                • Aug 2005
                • 1360

                #8437
                re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                Originally posted by Anchen
                I'd like to also state that I think I am in drhay's season with NWGameDad and I'm currently getting my *** kicked by the dev Think I'll try for a first round exit.
                This is a really rough season. Lot of good decks.
                Go Colts, Go Irish!!

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                • NWGameDad
                  Cat Daddy Games
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 1239

                  #8438
                  re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                  Originally posted by kaykay4se7en
                  Right! That def makes sense! I know the server transmits what card to give out but what I wanna know is, are there rares/epics/legendaries that are more "common" than others in the same rarity class?


                  The short answer is no. The exception being when you buy Team or Division Packs. Rares and Epics in those packs obviously pull from those Team/Divisions making them drop more frequently.


                  NWGameDad
                  Senior Producer
                  Cat Daddy Games
                  NWGameDad
                  Senior Producer
                  Cat Daddy Games

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                  • dahabi
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 191

                    #8439
                    re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                    NW, can we please have another drop rate? A 2 hour event would turn a lot of these peoples bad fortune and distain around!


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                    • NWGameDad
                      Cat Daddy Games
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 1239

                      #8440
                      re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                      Originally posted by Benitezj10
                      Any thoughts of a market or trading system? A market like selling card to get more draft picks or something like that and a trade system where players can trade cards to a server not human and human trades I think that could break the game but human CPU trades could be interesting.

                      Also are the percentage numbers in the quick game draft board the same as the rivalry draft board? I got like 5 epics almost one a day during the event and only have drafted one epic in the weeks of playing quick games.

                      Will we ever see new cards? New players added from the past or something like that. I know you guys just added the rivalry cards but I think more cards would be nice to see.

                      Last question. Has there been any talk of when we will see another increase in epic or legendary drops in quick games in the near future like we saw on 2/3/14. The myteam console players got a lot of love during all star weekend but nothing was done to the mobile side.


                      Thank you for being active in this forum and keep up the good work hopefully you have time to answer me


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                      Player to player trading is not something we are actively pursuing right now. We have discussed it, but it is not high on the priority list. Having some way to gain benefit from cards you no longer need, that is something we are definitely looking at. The percentage drop on the Quick Game and Rivalry boards is the same. The difference you're seeing is again that random chance and a small sample set. New cards...hmmmm...what an interesting idea... ;-) Although I would not rule out ever doing another "Epic Drop" event again, we currently do not have any planned. We did it that day to help us test server load in preparation for the Rivals mode we had coming. NWGameDad Senior Producer Cat Daddy Games
                      NWGameDad
                      Senior Producer
                      Cat Daddy Games

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                      • NWGameDad
                        Cat Daddy Games
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 1239

                        #8441
                        re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                        Originally posted by dahabi
                        NW, can we please have another drop rate? A 2 hour event would turn a lot of these peoples bad fortune and distain around!


                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk


                        The Rivals Events are your best shot if you want to guarantee a reward. Like I said now several pages back, we are making the rewards for the next Rivals Clash event MUCH better.


                        NWGameDad
                        Senior Producer
                        Cat Daddy Games
                        NWGameDad
                        Senior Producer
                        Cat Daddy Games

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                        • Cwb917
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 277

                          #8442
                          re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                          I just now realized that all these guys have different energy levels. I was wondering why in the world my 1972 ELgin Baylor rare was down to 50 pct energy after one game every time while the other guys still had something around 80 pct energy left.

                          Im only on my third season cut me some slack. Energy threshold doesnt show when you look at cards in your collection.
                          PSN: BigHerm

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                          • dahabi
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 191

                            #8443
                            re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                            Originally posted by NWGameDad
                            The Rivals Events are your best shot if you want to guarantee a reward. Like I said now several pages back, we are making the rewards for the next Rivals Clash event MUCH better.


                            NWGameDad
                            Senior Producer
                            Cat Daddy Games

                            I'd hardly call a drop rate a "guaranteed reward"...


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                            • doctorhay53
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1360

                              #8444
                              re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                              Originally posted by dahabi
                              I'd hardly call a drop rate a "guaranteed reward"...


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                              But he already said that the next event will have defined rewards, none of them will be random.
                              Go Colts, Go Irish!!

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                              • Hawkeye75
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 147

                                #8445
                                re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

                                Originally posted by NWGameDad
                                Player to player trading is not something we are actively pursuing right now. We have discussed it, but it is not high on the priority list. Having some way to gain benefit from cards you no longer need, that is something we are definitely looking at. The percentage drop on the Quick Game and Rivalry boards is the same. The difference you're seeing is again that random chance and a small sample set. New cards...hmmmm...what an interesting idea... ;-) Although I would not rule out ever doing another "Epic Drop" event again, we currently do not have any planned. We did it that day to help us test server load in preparation for the Rivals mode we had coming. NWGameDad Senior Producer Cat Daddy Games

                                That made my day! I don't need player trading but if I can get a benefit for cards I no longer need or want, that is great news indeed.


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