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  • etched Chaos
    Pro
    • Feb 2010
    • 800

    #271
    Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

    The minimums are so high to keep the card packs fiscally viable still, if you could grab any card at half the price of a card pack and without the inherent randomness then the card packs would suddenly stop selling.

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    • djase
      Banned
      • Feb 2015
      • 533

      #272
      Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

      cd is killing the game

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      • Illmatic1909
        Pro
        • Dec 2014
        • 708

        #273
        Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

        Originally posted by etched Chaos
        The minimums are so high to keep the card packs fiscally viable still, if you could grab any card at half the price of a card pack and without the inherent randomness then the card packs would suddenly stop selling.
        Read the thread. We understand that. But at that rate the star cards in least supply will NEVER sell at that minimum. People will still buy packs because they might not want the Nick Young Star card and might look elsewhere, but the newcomer might want that star card at 3000-4000. Some cards will never sell with a minimum. Period. There should be a minimum on buy-it-now, but not on any other card.
        IGN: illmatic1
        Tier: Leg++

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        • vauux
          Banned
          • Jan 2015
          • 177

          #274
          Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

          I take it there is no way to search for pro cards?

          Also noticed all the card packs on sale, not sure if I should buy or just use the AH. What are ya'll doing?

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          • Illmatic1909
            Pro
            • Dec 2014
            • 708

            #275
            Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

            Originally posted by vauux
            I take it there is no way to search for pro cards?

            Also noticed all the card packs on sale, not sure if I should buy or just use the AH. What are ya'll doing?
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            IGN: illmatic1
            Tier: Leg++

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            • Melcho
              Pro
              • Feb 2015
              • 501

              #276
              Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

              Has anyone figured out how this is possible yet? I thought all minimums are set?



              Image taken from the FB Group, not mine.

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              • fabio85
                Pro
                • Jan 2014
                • 706

                #277
                Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                Originally posted by Melcho
                Has anyone figured out how this is possible yet? I thought all minimums are set?



                Image taken from the FB Group, not mine.
                was asking the same thing in another topic...actually seeing a lot of ur for sale at lower starting price. just search for ultra rare and prices between 1 and 799 and you'll find...

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                • mattgoody
                  Just started!
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 3

                  #278
                  Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                  I'm seeing a lot of this: There is also a lebron with a 1 starting price farther down, and i saw a unibrow star with the same thing.

                  If i bid 6 tokens on them, it says its pending, but then almost immediately tells me I've been outbid by (blank space).

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                  • Dextro
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 1983

                    #279
                    Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                    Some thoughts on the first day with the Auction House.

                    First of all, I actually sold some cards. Two super rare and one ultra rare, but I guess that was just luck.
                    It is pretty hard to evaluate the situation without your KPI. Even harder for me, because I play the game since beginning of February. For example how much does an player spend for credits on average, how many active players do you have, how many uses the Auction House, etc.

                    That are only things you can answer yourself, but out of my view. You will have a big problem to get a booming market.
                    And here is why:

                    Minimum Price per Tier
                    It is killing the market for lower tier players and they are pretty useless
                    Auction Fee
                    Makes it even more senseless to place an auction, if you might have the fear they won´t sell
                    Auction duration
                    That is depending really on the active players, but as it stands right now 12h is way to much
                    30% Tax
                    That is really killing the fun at the moment, even if you sell something, you have to pay an enormous amount for it. As a lower tier player, I won´t use the Auction House, cause Fee + Tax + Minimum Price is killing the value of each card

                    To make it clear, I totally understand your point and the idea behind. Somehow you need to generate money. But my opinion is really, that you overplay it.
                    Credits and those restrictions are the limited factor - even with a lot of time or passion it won´t be able to generate those. You can not keep an eye on the market, the daily bonus is way to low and the money amount you have to spent is way to high.

                    In my opinion, the first day was great for all high tier players, because they could sell all their Legends, Epics and Stars they don´t need. And furthermore they are now able to look for duplicates. But what is next? Sure, there will be some guys who spend something to climb up the ladder, but the question is, is this enough?

                    In my opinion no, but that is really depending on the average spending of real money from players. If you are happy with it, that is fine. But I guess that wont be enough for a booming market.

                    So my ideas:
                    - get rid of the Auction fee, but keep the spots limited
                    - lower the taxes (maybe different rates per tier)
                    - lower the auction duration
                    - get rid of minimum bids - markets shouldn´t be controlled like that - would be the same if you say yes you can buy an share from Apple, but you have to pay 10 times what it is worth
                    - if a card don´t sell, offer an quick buy to generate at least some credits
                    (e.g Super Rare 75 Credits, Uncommon 40 Credits, ...) that will be assets for everybody
                    - change the structure of your packs, instead of one card give us some more, so they would be still worth to buy. You can get something, but most of the time you get **** out of it, like in FIFA, but still people are buying it for the hope
                    - change the pricing for credits, to make it more attractive for everybody and to generate more on average per player

                    But as I said, it is depending on your KPI´s, if you are happy with them. Stay with it, if not, there would be the time for a change. The same if there are not enough active players, that would also mean to stay with the old system.
                    But as it stands right now, I wouldn´t invest into the game. And if somebody is asking me, I would say exactly the same to him.

                    If you don´t fear that people might think the same, then you are fine. If not learn out of the beta

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                    • Jo_Kane
                      Just started!
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 5

                      #280
                      Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                      How do i know if i won a bid?

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                      • Athens2004
                        Rookie
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 44

                        #281
                        Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                        Hi people. I'm havimg problems to connect to AH. Every time i conect by wifi i get the this message "auction house is offline at this moment" (or something like that in spanish)
                        When i comect using my phone without wifi idomt get the error, but i'd like to play in my tablet , since the phome is little and unconfortable to read. Anyone having the same problem?
                        what can I do?
                        THANKS!!

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                        • Tobex
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 279

                          #282
                          Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                          Any takers.

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                          • yantelope
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2015
                            • 160

                            #283
                            Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                            I posted this in the other thread by I think two simple changes could make AH work better for CD and users:

                            Instituting a higher minimum for pro tier cards would go a long way to restoring value to single cards.

                            I also think instituting a small grind credit would help, even if it was only 2-3 credits per quick game. You're not talking about infusing a large amount of credits per person, thereby not killing CD's ability to sell credit packs, but it would infuse a large amount of credits into the entire economy and that would get the AH listings to sell. Once the demand for singles and cards on the whole goes up, the values will begin to go up and the whole system would probably work better.

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                            • Dextro
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 1983

                              #284
                              Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                              As long as there are not enough credits in the game, there will be no market.
                              And I mean a real market, where everybody can sell stuff. Not only a few players ...

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                              • eVizions
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 1257

                                #285
                                Re: Update 5 Release Notes and Auction House Beta

                                I'd love the option to watch an auction

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